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The problem isn't election fraud.

Every judge the big lie was put before, including many appointed by lord trump, including 3 in the highest court of the land, said there was no case. Bill Barr, head of the DOJ and one of lord trumps biggest butt-kissers, said he had no case. Every audit and recount, including ones funded and run by lord trump's sycophants, ruled there is no case.

This isn't about election fraud. This is about the people being unwilling to do what it takes to effect change (ie vote the bums out). Nor are they willing to accept the truth when it contradicts what they want to believe. The only true fraud is trusting the fate of this country to the intelligence of the electorate.

They have a word for that ... anarchy (often confused with freedom by the right).

Hasn’t anarchy been given a bad rap by propagandists, portraying them as black-clad thugs seeking to overthrow the government? Most anarchists actually don’t need governmental rule because they aren’t a threat to society. They just want Uncle Sam to get off their back, leave them alone, and live a quiet, peaceful, life on their own terms.

I think the Jan 6 mob perfectly described anarchy.

They were pro-government though.

They think they are. See that's part of the deception. Make people think they are something while actually being the opposite.

I think the Jan 6 mob had more in common with authoritarian fascists than anarchists, but they thought they were far-right extremist pro-Trumpers, but in actuality they had more in common with the far left. Attempting to intervene in the government with physical force for the purpose of protecting the incumbent president is not right wing.

Yes, I do generally agree that people think they are something while being the opposite. Have you heard of the "big lie" propaganda technique? They just repeat lies long enough until they supplant the truth with misinformation in the hearts and minds of the general public. It's like when when politicians, universities, media outlets, movies, friends, and family all say the the same false message the perception is that it's true. That's enough to persuade most unthinking people.

I think the Jan 6 mob had more in common with authoritarian fascists than anarchists, but they thought they were far-right extremist pro-Trumpers, but in actuality they had more in common with the far left. Attempting to intervene in the government with physical force for the purpose of protecting the incumbent president is not right wing.

Yes, I do generally agree that people think they are something while being the opposite. Have you heard of the "big lie" propaganda technique? They just repeat lies long enough until they supplant the truth with misinformation in the hearts and minds of the general public. It's like when when politicians, universities, media outlets, movies, friends, and family all say the the same false message the perception is that it's true. That's enough to persuade most unthinking people.

You know moving from Canada to America, I had a different view of Americans until I came here. I admired this country so much, that they stood for freedom and free speech. But I see that fading. Canada has limited speech and freedoms. I never would have thought someone could cheat in a small local election, let alone a national level. I thought Americans would never allow that.

As we came up to the election crowds came to see Trump again, the same as they had Obama. There was zero enthusiasm for Joe. Even before that, Bernie was hands down the winner. They cut him out once again and figured Joe smelled like Obama so close enough. They put the crown on him, knowing he wasn't in the health to do the job and nothing in past said he was up for the job. Even Obama didn't have faith in him. But they put the crown on him and in spite of his past comments, picked Harris to run with him. Joe never got higher than 3% the first two, count 'em, two times he ran for president. She got 1% when she tried, she was off the stage in no time with her ridiculous cackling. So they made the decision to wrap this dream team together and then they expect us to believe that they not only beat Trump, who had thousands in his crowds and thousands having car rallies all over the country, but the first black president. They want us to believe this was an "historic win". Thinking people could see that the radical Dems wanted someone they could ride into the WH then tell them this is how it's gonna be done. He well knows it too. He reads everything and says he will get in trouble if he answers with his own thoughts. Look at how outraged the radicals are at Manchin, how dare he go against us, er the president. smh I don't care if Trump himself knocked on my door and said the election wasn't stolen. It's incredibly obvious. And the fact that they're trying to forbid people from saying the election was stolen, while ol' Hill is STILL saying her election was stolen, and they call it the "big lie". Get outta here with that baloney. Changing election laws at the last minute and thinking no one saw. Repubs. don't have a spine among them. The election was stolen, period, the fact that we're a year in and Biden/Harris have already tanked proves it even further.

I think the Jan 6 mob had more in common with authoritarian fascists than anarchists, but they thought they were far-right extremist pro-Trumpers, but in actuality they had more in common with the far left. Attempting to intervene in the government with physical force for the purpose of protecting the incumbent president is not right wing.

Yes, I do generally agree that people think they are something while being the opposite. Have you heard of the "big lie" propaganda technique? They just repeat lies long enough until they supplant the truth with misinformation in the hearts and minds of the general public. It's like when when politicians, universities, media outlets, movies, friends, and family all say the the same false message the perception is that it's true. That's enough to persuade most unthinking people.

You know moving from Canada to America, I had a different view of Americans until I came here. I admired this country so much, that they stood for freedom and free speech. But I see that fading. Canada has limited speech and freedoms. I never would have thought someone could cheat in a small local election, let alone a national level. I thought Americans would never allow that.

As we came up to the election crowds came to see Trump again, the same as they had Obama. There was zero enthusiasm for Joe. Even before that, Bernie was hands down the winner. They cut him out once again and figured Joe smelled like Obama so close enough. They put the crown on him, knowing he wasn't in the health to do the job and nothing in past said he was up for the job. Even Obama didn't have faith in him. But they put the crown on him and in spite of his past comments, picked Harris to run with him. Joe never got higher than 3% the first two, count 'em, two times he ran for president. She got 1% when she tried, she was off the stage in no time with her ridiculous cackling. So they made the decision to wrap this dream team together and then they expect us to believe that they not only beat Trump, who had thousands in his crowds and thousands having car rallies all over the country, but the first black president. They want us to believe this was an "historic win". Thinking people could see that the radical Dems wanted someone they could ride into the WH then tell them this is how it's gonna be done. He well knows it too. He reads everything and says he will get in trouble if he answers with his own thoughts. Look at how outraged the radicals are at Manchin, how dare he go against us, er the president. smh I don't care if Trump himself knocked on my door and said the election wasn't stolen. It's incredibly obvious. And the fact that they're trying to forbid people from saying the election was stolen, while ol' Hill is STILL saying her election was stolen, and they call it the "big lie". Get outta here with that baloney. Changing election laws at the last minute and thinking no one saw. Repubs. don't have a spine among them. The election was stolen, period, the fact that we're a year in and Biden/Harris have already tanked proves it even further.

Every judge it has been put before, including many appointed by trump, ... oh never mind. You've heard and rejected the truth before, you'll just do it again.

The election WAS fraudulent. The Dems wanted Pres Harris but she couldn't win on her own. So they ran her with biden planning to take biden out before the end of his term. THAT'S the real fraud.