Works

Yes i agree.
Imputed righteousness is only part of what our faith believes in. Justification by faith is what causes us to be perfectly clean before God as if we have never sinned. Imparted righteousness comes by faith also, and should not be ignored.

Imparted righteousness is the gift of God given to enable us to live for holiness and equals sanctification. John Wesley believed that imparted righteousness worked in tandem with imputed righteousness.

No sinner is or has any righteousness at any time. “There is none righteous, no, not one”

I agree with all of this. Amen. Justified through faith, sanctified through faith l, kept through faith, etc.

Whether I believe in OSAS or not has no effect on my belief or what I do, because I do not do anything ( watching in prayer, striving for Holiness, feasting on the Word good works) out of a fear of losing my salvation. I do these things because I want to grow and to glorify God in my life. And I don’t want to be unfruitful.

If I do these things because I’m afraid I’ll lose my salvation, then I am operating out of fear. But I do not want to fall away, in the sense of falling out of fellowship and becoming unfruitful. My desire for God keeps me seeking Him and His Grace keeps me from falling.

If out of love and desire for God you cherish fellowship with God, osas question becomes moot.

II Peter 1
Gal 5 fruit of the Spirit
I Cor 13
comes to mind.

Rom 4:22 And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness.
Rom 4:23 Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him;
Rom 4:24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;
Rom 4:25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.

Assured of salvation and being saved is different.

I can have the assurance of being clean and righteous today because of my faith today. but can i say i am saved when Jesus returns if i can be tempted to give up on Jesus and not believe? If i choose to reject Jesus and turn from Him, will i still be saved when Jesus returns?

Will people believe they are saved and not be when Jesus returns?
Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

These would not be deeds but attitudes and behavior (which may or may not lead to deeds). For example joy is a fruit of the Spirit. But it is an internal attitude. It does not lead to any action per se.

And pray tell, why would you (or anyone else) be so foolish?

Why didn't the father give everyone to Jesus to save? Why isn't the whole world save if Jesus is able to save in every way?

Do you do anything at all?

I’m not walking on a tightrope. I have assurance of salvation because of the one who is able to keep me from falling. And I seek to abide in Him, not out of fear of losing salvation, but because i value the Fellowship I have with God.

Amen.

I responded. Why I responded and another guy didnt, I couldn’t tell you.

Judas choose to betray Jesus, He was tempted by money and we will never know everything that was happening in Judas' heart.
This is why a judgement is needed. everyone will stand before the judgement set of God and the books will be opened. If our cases are all decided before the judgement why is there a judgement.

I change my statement. I believed, but the belief was more like an EFFECT than an action.

i agree we should not do anything out of fear. This is about works and i'm just saying that works will always come with real faith. Faith anables us to do good. We can not do anything without faith in Jesus. Jesus does it all so all glory to Him. We respond and if it is true faith our actions and life will show it.

Rom 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
Rom 6:2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

I agree with you on works. I just don’t agree with not being declared righteous till judgement day. Declared righteous equals justification.

1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
1Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
1Co 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

Of course.

This is laughable since Judas was a "devil" (or demon) from the get-go. Yet Christ chose him since his treachery was already prophesied in Scripture, and was a necessary part of God's plan for Christ to be crucified: Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil? He spake of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve. (John 6:70,71) This was spoken long before the betrayal of Christ by Judas. So Judas was NEVER a true believer -- just a pretender. In any event, this has absolutely no relevance to the matter under discussion.

When someone sinned in the old testament there was a process that they followed, it was a type of what Jesus would do.
There, by the altar of burnt offering, they were required to confess their sins over the animal and then slay it with their own hand. The flawless lamb, of course, represented the future Messiah. Through faith, they were transferring their sins to the lamb, accepting the substitutionary death of the Saviour in their place. By shedding the blood themselves, they were constantly reminded that sin means death and that they could only be forgiven through the atoning death of another.
Act 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;

The priest then placed some of the blood on the horns of the altar in the outer court and ate a small piece of the meat, thus taking upon himself the sins of the individual worshippers. Afterward, the priest killed a sin offering for himself, and carried the blood into the holy place where it was sprinkled before the veil. Thus all sin, either directly or indirectly, eventually found its way into the sanctuary where it was recorded through the sprinkled blood.. Day by day, for an entire year, the sins accumulated in the sanctuary by the daily ministry of the priests in the holy place.

the Day of Atonement came once a year when a final disposition was made of their record of sin in the sanctuary. It always fell on the tenth day of the seventh month and was called the "cleansing of the sanctuary." To this day, that solemn observance (Yom Kippur) is regarded by every Jew as a day of judgment. Symbolically a blotting out of the blood-recorded sins took place as the high priest, alone, entered the holy of holies to sprinkle the blood of a goat.

While the high priest killed the animal by the courtyard altar, the entire congregation were afflicting their souls in fasting and prayer. Their fate was about to be determined before the mercy seat of the sanctuary. If one person had sins which had not been confessed and recorded in the sanctuary, those sins would not come under the blood of atonement. That man or woman would be cut off from Israel and put outside the camp.

The high priest alone passed through the veil to sprinkle blood on the mercy seat and to cleanse all the record of sin from the sanctuary. When he emerged from the holy of holies, the final atonement had been completed and a symbolic judgment had been made concerning sin and its penalty.

Can you see that the plan of salvation has many parts. The symbolisms in the desert tabernacle which illuminates almost every aspect of the great plan of salvation. Christ, the sacrificial Lamb, was foreshadowed in the bread, the incense, the lamps, the mercy seat. But most of all, He was represented by the high priest who carried the blood into the Shekinah presence of God. The book of Hebrews helps us to see that all the earthly types had to be fulfilled by the ministry of Jesus in the heavenly sanctuary.

It is recognized by all that the veil of the temple was ripped from top to bottom the very moment Jesus died (Matthew 27:50, 51), thus indicating an end to the sacrificial system. Type had met antitype. The true Lamb had now been offered and no more shadows were needed.

Heb 9:24 For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:
Heb 9:25 Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others;
Heb 9:26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.
Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
Heb 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
Do we confess our sins once and that is it we are saved for ever? No !
If we continue in sin and have no repentance will grace continue to save us?