U.S. Drops Sanctions on Iran. Israel left out to Dry

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ZNP

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Israel and Taiwan -- Brace yourself
 
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Oblio

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One would almost think that Biden is trying to start a nuclear conflict. In my opinion, Biden is an enemy of Israel. Which makes him my enemy!
 
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kaylagrl

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One would almost think that Biden is trying to start a nuclear conflict. In my opinion, Biden is an enemy of Israel. Which makes him my enemy!

And makes him God's enemy. All he touches will continue to fail. Watch and see.
 

arthurfleminger

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Israel and it's Arab neighbors have been at war with each other since the founding of Israel in 1948. That's about 75 years. In my opinion, neither side wants peace with the other, only their enemy's destruction. All talks and peace negotiations have failed and peace is no nearer than it was in 1948. Both sides hate each other.

Since the late 1960's both the Israeli and Arab states have used the USA to aid their cause or blame the USA for the situation in the Mideast. Because of the Mideast the US has lost many soldiers in wars in that part of the country and many civilians through terrorist acts.....ie World Trade Center.

So, it's my opinion that the USA should get out of the Mideast completely, support neither side, and let the Israeli's and Arabs find peace or destroy each other.

No more American lives, let the Israelis and Arabs decide their fate, 75 years is toooooooooooooo looooooooooong!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

ZNP

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So, it's my opinion that the USA should get out of the Mideast completely, support neither side, and let the Israeli's and Arabs find peace or destroy each other.

No more American lives, let the Israelis and Arabs decide their fate, 75 years is toooooooooooooo looooooooooong!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL, OK, just so you understand, if the US gets out of the Mideast completely you will see a hundred dollar bill worth less than 10 cents today. We will be flooded with US dollars as the new reserve currency will be rubles as Russia takes over defending the Middle East. Let's put that into perspective, someone with a retirement account and net assets worth $10 million would now see their total net worth around $10 thousand.

At this point interest rates will soar causing a great recession and the streets will be filled with the unemployed and homeless. Crime will skyrocket and the electric grid and other utilities like water will collapse.
 
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Understand? Laughable. It takes time and effort to understand. Unless you're 10 years old! SMH!
 

lawrence101

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Israel and it's Arab neighbors have been at war with each other since the founding of Israel in 1948. That's about 75 years. In my opinion, neither side wants peace with the other, only their enemy's destruction. All talks and peace negotiations have failed and peace is no nearer than it was in 1948. Both sides hate each other.

Since the late 1960's both the Israeli and Arab states have used the USA to aid their cause or blame the USA for the situation in the Mideast. Because of the Mideast the US has lost many soldiers in wars in that part of the country and many civilians through terrorist acts.....ie World Trade Center.

So, it's my opinion that the USA should get out of the Mideast completely, support neither side, and let the Israeli's and Arabs find peace or destroy each other.

No more American lives, let the Israelis and Arabs decide their fate, 75 years is toooooooooooooo looooooooooong!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Actually there's some truth to what you posted because i believe all western powers will eventually leave Israel to fend for itself . All the wicked armies of the world led by the Devil himself will gather against Israel , but they will all be utterly destroyed as prophesied in Ezekiel 38.
 

arthurfleminger

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LOL, OK, just so you understand, if the US gets out of the Mideast completely you will see a hundred dollar bill worth less than 10 cents today. We will be flooded with US dollars as the new reserve currency will be rubles as Russia takes over defending the Middle East. Let's put that into perspective, someone with a retirement account and net assets worth $10 million would now see their total net worth around $10 thousand.

At this point interest rates will soar causing a great recession and the streets will be filled with the unemployed and homeless. Crime will skyrocket and the electric grid and other utilities like water will collapse.
Your post about the collapse of the world's economic system is nonsense. Where do you come up with such knee jerk ideas. In fact, in the 1960's and 70's, most of the Arab countries gave their support to the Soviet Union. And there was no economic collapse.

Today, Israel has the military might to defend itself, and this includes nuclear weapons with delivery systems. Israel is the great military power in the Mideast.

Israel's military claims it can destroy Iran's nuclear program, no problem:

Israel: 'We can destroy Iran's nuclear programme'
Israel: ‘We can destroy Iran’s nuclear programme’ – Middle East Monitor

And don't forget, that Israel destroyed Iraq's nuclear program in 1981:

Washington, D.C., June 7, 2021 – On June 7, 1981, 40 years ago today, Israel attacked and partially destroyed Iraq’s Osirak nuclear research reactor at Tuwaitha, using U.S. supplied F-15 and F-16 aircraft to carry out the attack.
Israeli Attack on Iraq's Osirak 1981: Setback or Impetus for Nuclear Weapons? | National Security Archive (gwu.edu)

Israel can defend itself without the US's help. US needs to get out of the Middle East and stay out. US dependence of Arab oil is bottoming out. Israel has been using the USA, both militarily and diplomatically over the past 40 years.

One thing's for sure, Jewish people who live in the USA don't support the American military.
Attention: Where are the Jews in the U.S. military – J. (jweekly.com)

But Jewish lobbyists in the USA surely want American soldiers to support the defense of Israel.

Time for the US to get out of the Mideast, the time is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay paaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaast due!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let Israel and the Arabs fend for themselves.
 

ZNP

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Your post about the collapse of the world's economic system is nonsense. Where do you come up with such knee jerk ideas.
I did not say anything about a collapse of the World's economic system, I said the US dollar would collapse. The US dollar is the world's "reserve" currency because we have an arrangement with OPEC that they will only sell oil in US dollars and in exchange we will provide security to them. That is why the whole world needs US dollars. If we leave the Middle East as you suggested Russia would step in to provide security and the entire world would dump their US dollars and buy rubles. The reason our government can print trillions and trillions of dollars of "stimulus and other bills is because we are the "reserve currency". We are essentially the one country on earth that can print money freely. The minute we are no longer the reserve currency we will become "venezuela".
 

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Israel and it's Arab neighbors have been at war with each other since the founding of Israel in 1948. That's about 75 years. In my opinion, neither side wants peace with the other, only their enemy's destruction. All talks and peace negotiations have failed and peace is no nearer than it was in 1948. Both sides hate each other.

Since the late 1960's both the Israeli and Arab states have used the USA to aid their cause or blame the USA for the situation in the Mideast. Because of the Mideast the US has lost many soldiers in wars in that part of the country and many civilians through terrorist acts.....ie World Trade Center.

So, it's my opinion that the USA should get out of the Mideast completely, support neither side, and let the Israeli's and Arabs find peace or destroy each other.

No more American lives, let the Israelis and Arabs decide their fate, 75 years is toooooooooooooo looooooooooong!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry, I don't buy into that moral equivalence propaganda. The Arabs attacked Israel on their First Day of Independence and have been at their throats ever since.
There is nothing wrong with the USA helping Israel, as in...

Genesis 12:3 (KJV) And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
 

Nehemiah6

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Since the late 1960's both the Israeli and Arab states have used the USA to aid their cause or blame the USA for the situation in the Mideast.
The title of the thread says "U.S. Drops Sanctions on Iran". Too many Americans do not even understand some very basic truths about this, and don't expect the lying media to educate and remind the public:

1. Iranians are NOT Arabs, but Persians. They would be offended at being called "Arabs". They speak Farsi, not Arabic. Huge difference.

2. Ayatollah Khomeini called America "the Great Satan" and vowed to destroy it and that has not changed under the Mullahs and Ayatollahs.

3. Iran has been at war with the USA ever since and practices State-sponsored terrorism. They will continue to do so, and they have even threatened the assassination of Trump recently.

4. Iran hates Israel and has repeatedly said that it wants to wipe out Israel. In contrast many of the Arab states are trying to work out a plan to co-exist with Israel.

5. Barack Obama hated Israel and also wanted to wipe it out. He was a crypto-Muslim who hates both Christians and Jews. He was (and perhaps still is) a close friend of Black Muslim Louis Farrakhan who wants to "Kill All Whites" and blames the Jews for everything.

6. It is Obama who aided and abetted Iran -- the sworn enemy of America -- by creating a Nuclear Deal for Iran which would allow it to become a serious nuclear power and a menace to the Middle East. This was high treason, but everyone simply allowed him to commit treason without any consequences.

7. It is Obama who gave the Mullahs billions of dollars to continue their jihad against both the USA and Israel. And people like John Kerry -- another traitor -- have been working hand-in-glove with Iran to strengthen it.

8. It is Obama who is the puppet-master using Joseph Biden to continue his reign of evil and treason. All recent foolish and destructive American foreign policies are originating with Obama, and Psaki recently almost let the cat out of the bag.

9. If the US has now dropped sanctions against Iran (and also poured money into it) the unspoken message to the demons who control Iran is this: "You are now free to destroy Israel as well as America".

10. Israel is probably more than capable of destroying Iran's leaders and its nuclear arsenal. So the unspoken message to Israel from Biden and his gang of thugs is "Go ahead. Attack Iran, and let's have a major war in the Middle East. That will cause people to be distracted from the total failure of the Biden administration, just like the recent attack on an ISIS commander".

11. In the meantime the Biden administration has been doing its utmost to bring war to Ukraine by giving Putin all the breaks and destroying the energy independence of the US. The US actually imports oil from Russia and kills oil production in the USA and Canada. The U.S. Imports Record Share Of Russian Oil Despite Tensions. https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-O...rd-Share-Of-Russian-Oil-Despite-Tensions.html
Again it is the same evil motivation of the TOTAL DESTRUCTION of America by Obama through Biden.

12. The RINOs in the US Congress and Senate have been aiding and abetting traitor Biden ever since he took office unlawfully. Which means that they too are a part of the problem and there is no one in the US government who is watching out for the best interests of America.
 

arthurfleminger

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The title of the thread says "U.S. Drops Sanctions on Iran". Too many Americans do not even understand some very basic truths about this, and don't expect the lying media to educate and remind the public:

1. Iranians are NOT Arabs, but Persians. They would be offended at being called "Arabs". They speak Farsi, not Arabic. Huge difference.

2. Ayatollah Khomeini called America "the Great Satan" and vowed to destroy it and that has not changed under the Mullahs and Ayatollahs.

3. Iran has been at war with the USA ever since and practices State-sponsored terrorism. They will continue to do so, and they have even threatened the assassination of Trump recently.

4. Iran hates Israel and has repeatedly said that it wants to wipe out Israel. In contrast many of the Arab states are trying to work out a plan to co-exist with Israel.

5. Barack Obama hated Israel and also wanted to wipe it out. He was a crypto-Muslim who hates both Christians and Jews. He was (and perhaps still is) a close friend of Black Muslim Louis Farrakhan who wants to "Kill All Whites" and blames the Jews for everything.

6. It is Obama who aided and abetted Iran -- the sworn enemy of America -- by creating a Nuclear Deal for Iran which would allow it to become a serious nuclear power and a menace to the Middle East. This was high treason, but everyone simply allowed him to commit treason without any consequences.

7. It is Obama who gave the Mullahs billions of dollars to continue their jihad against both the USA and Israel. And people like John Kerry -- another traitor -- have been working hand-in-glove with Iran to strengthen it.

8. It is Obama who is the puppet-master using Joseph Biden to continue his reign of evil and treason. All recent foolish and destructive American foreign policies are originating with Obama, and Psaki recently almost let the cat out of the bag.

9. If the US has now dropped sanctions against Iran (and also poured money into it) the unspoken message to the demons who control Iran is this: "You are now free to destroy Israel as well as America".

10. Israel is probably more than capable of destroying Iran's leaders and its nuclear arsenal. So the unspoken message to Israel from Biden and his gang of thugs is "Go ahead. Attack Iran, and let's have a major war in the Middle East. That will cause people to be distracted from the total failure of the Biden administration, just like the recent attack on an ISIS commander".

11. In the meantime the Biden administration has been doing its utmost to bring war to Ukraine by giving Putin all the breaks and destroying the energy independence of the US. The US actually imports oil from Russia and kills oil production in the USA and Canada. The U.S. Imports Record Share Of Russian Oil Despite Tensions. https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-O...rd-Share-Of-Russian-Oil-Despite-Tensions.html
Again it is the same evil motivation of the TOTAL DESTRUCTION of America by Obama through Biden.

12. The RINOs in the US Congress and Senate have been aiding and abetting traitor Biden ever since he took office unlawfully. Which means that they too are a part of the problem and there is no one in the US government who is watching out for the best interests of America.
You hedge the truth about Iran's hatred of the USA. They really began hating the USA when the USA imposed the cruel and dictatorial rule of the Shah of Iran on the Iranians during the Cold War era. Most Iranians hated the Shah, but he was kept in power by the US. And when the Iranians finally overthrew the Shah, they and the Ayatollah let it be known that the USA was not their friend. The Iranians would never have hated the USA if the USA hadn't imposed unwanted rulers on their people.
 

Nehemiah6

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The Iranians would never have hated the USA if the USA hadn't imposed unwanted rulers on their people.
It is not the Iranian people who hate America. It is the demons in control of Iran, since the Iranians tried to throw off their tyranny not too long ago and were crushed. As to the support for the Shah, you are right in that the USA could definitely have done a lot better than allow him to be a tyrant with no regard for his people. But he was simply replaced with another bunch of tyrants, who have used Islam to promote terrorism worldwide. The Iranian people have been the losers all along.
 

lawrence101

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You hedge the truth about Iran's hatred of the USA. They really began hating the USA when the USA imposed the cruel and dictatorial rule of the Shah of Iran on the Iranians during the Cold War era. Most Iranians hated the Shah, but he was kept in power by the US. And when the Iranians finally overthrew the Shah, they and the Ayatollah let it be known that the USA was not their friend. The Iranians would never have hated the USA if the USA hadn't imposed unwanted rulers on their people.
Its not about hating USA they hate all western nations and anyone that supports Israel . They also hate christian people, go to one of their countries and try to preach the gospel on a street corner and watch what happens, actually that's getting harder to do in some western countries as well as government cracks down on certain types of so called "free speech ".