"The Reformation: A History" book

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Jeltja

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I love to read and right now I am going through The Reformation: A History by Diarmaid MacCulloch. I have listened to Brian Schwertley and R. J. Rushdoony lecture on the Reformation, but this is the first book covering the whole period I've read. The author seems to attempt 'neutrality' in discussing the theological issues behind these events. It has an intersection discussion of church polity, particular Lutheran vs. Calvinist models.

It is my experience that secular historians tend to reduce a lot of things down to economics and politics, and there is some of that in this book as well. I couldn't guess the authors denomination, if any, but it does lead to misapprehension of important issues Ina few parts.
 
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SophieT

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I wonder what Abram called himself

before tongues

before denoms

before reformations

before before before

I think its fine to read whatever but I don't know why someone has to challenge whatever it is the person is reading

the forums have become more and more contentious with little room for understanding or actual discussion

it seems to have become 'well this is what I believe and you are wrong if you don't agree'

I hardly know where I would care to engage anymore, not that anyone gives a rat's patootie
 

Jeltja

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the forums have become more and more contentious with little room for understanding or actual discussion

it seems to have become 'well this is what I believe and you are wrong if you don't agree'
The internet has a lot of bored people (often lonely) and some of them look for a dispute to entertain themselves or be involved with something. Really I don't mind if someone agrees or not (though I didn't say anything about what I believe on this topic) but I generally avoid arguing theology with strangers, especially men.
 

p_rehbein

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Which Church Of God?
There are many but I was saved,baptised in the Holy Ghost as in Pentecost in the COG out of Tennessee.
the Church of God Reformation Movement. Not Pentecostal, but Holiness. The "link" will reveal the History of the Church. It began in Anderson, Indiana.
 

Evmur

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I wonder what Abram called himself

before tongues

before denoms

before reformations

before before before

I think its fine to read whatever but I don't know why someone has to challenge whatever it is the person is reading

the forums have become more and more contentious with little room for understanding or actual discussion

it seems to have become 'well this is what I believe and you are wrong if you don't agree'

I hardly know where I would care to engage anymore, not that anyone gives a rat's patootie
rats patooties ... but racoons are rare
 

Gardenias

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I had a whole post but when I saw Evmur I thought I was on the wrong thread and deleted it........lol

Thanks @p_rehbein in maybe I'll rewrite it later ...lol
 
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SophieT

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The internet has a lot of bored people (often lonely) and some of them look for a dispute to entertain themselves or be involved with something. Really I don't mind if someone agrees or not (though I didn't say anything about what I believe on this topic) but I generally avoid arguing theology with strangers, especially men.
you're saying something there :geek:
 

Lanolin

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I love to read and right now I am going through The Reformation: A History by Diarmaid MacCulloch. I have listened to Brian Schwertley and R. J. Rushdoony lecture on the Reformation, but this is the first book covering the whole period I've read. The author seems to attempt 'neutrality' in discussing the theological issues behind these events. It has an intersection discussion of church polity, particular Lutheran vs. Calvinist models.

It is my experience that secular historians tend to reduce a lot of things down to economics and politics, and there is some of that in this book as well. I couldn't guess the authors denomination, if any, but it does lead to misapprehension of important issues Ina few parts.
probably presbyterian (calvinist) going by his surname. Scounds Scottish.
Lutherans would have German sounding names...?
 

Jeltja

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probably presbyterian (calvinist) going by his surname. Scounds Scottish.
Lutherans would have German sounding names...?
I looked into it and he's an English (probably Scots-English) Oxford academic, in the Church of England.