We need to take another look at The Garden of Eden

James does not say the devil makes you do it.
He says it's the evil lusts in your own flesh being stirred up. I will always believe scripture before I believe you, when your words and the Word of God do not agree.


God is not accusing us. He is making intercession for us, because we have put our hope in Him.

Goodnight

You somehow don't think it is a sin coming from your flesh? what? and i didn't say satan made you do it.

You live in a fantasy world where sins don't mean separation from GOD!

read this again:
1 John 3:8
Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil.

Nor is all Israel, Israel, eh?

They are at least a type of what was to come, I guess. No more argument from me on the point, I just wanted to give a perspective.

Good night bro

There are those that don't care if they're wrong, they just love to argue. Goodnight, and have a sweet slumber.

Yeah, a type maybe, but that's it. Noah was the father of ALL NATIONs, Abraham was the father of Israelites. God frequently identified himself as the God of "Abraham, Isaac and Jacob", but never of Noah. That's because the rest of the nations, including other descendants of Shem, were given to the Watchers, only Israel was God's portion.

No, devil didn't make you do it, your little buggers in your gut did - through the so called "gut-brain axis". These bacteria act like an individual organ that breaks food into nutrients for you, but in times of stress, they'll trigger a fight or flight response to preserve "the flesh". That's just one theory from secular scientific perspective, take it or leave it.

Even more odd Scripture about "spirit" that no one will read:

Eze 1:21
When those went, these went; and when those stood, these stood; and when those were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up over against them: for the spirit of the living creature was in the wheels.


//The driving intentions (spirit) was in the wheels?


Eze 10:17
When they stood, these stood; and when they were lifted up, these lifted up themselves also: for the spirit of the living creature was in them.


//There is that word again "midst" ...just like the Trees in The Garden:

Hos 5:4
They will not frame their doings to turn unto their God: for the spirit of whoredoms is in the midst of them, and they have not known the LORD.

//Did The LORD Stir up their intentions?

Hag 1:14
And the LORD stirred up the spirit of Zerubbabel the son of Shealtiel, governor of Judah, and the spirit of Joshua the son of Josedech, the high priest, and the spirit of all the remnant of the people; and they came and did work in the house of the LORD of hosts, their God,


Wait, is this talking about GOD Making the earth and Forming a spirit into man ...Genesis? Was the symbolism of Adam not needed here?

Zec 12:1
The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.

//This is the verse before Zec 12:1 ...is it talking about a darkened eye ...as in spiritual blindness?

Zec 11:17
Woe to the idol shepherd that leaveth the flock! the sword shall be upon his arm, and upon his right eye: his arm shall be clean dried up, and his right eye shall be utterly darkened.

I hope and pray earnestly that he’s able to see the light.
Of anyone ever preached this stuff to believers no one would ever be saved it’s the kind of doctrine the accuser used against the ot folk and brought israel to destruction

no thanks this thread is toxic for my spirit , not at all edifying . I was wondering what they were saying because I had discussed other subjects with you. I hadn’t read how you were judging Jesus beloved people and my brothers and sisters here , as dead spirits.

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I had thought you as someone who could hear scripture but it seems to bounce right off today for some reason I’ll pray that changes

“Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself. For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's.

For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living. But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother?

for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, And every tongue shall confess to God. So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.

Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.

Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things wherewith one may edify another.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭14:4, 7-13, 19‬ ‭

you should really consider things like that there’s a judge who paid a high price to decide who lives or dies it’s not any of us we don’t want to hinder his work of salvstion on ourselves or others

it’s why I showed you what Jesus did when the sinners came to him “ faith has saved you your sins are forgiven “ and what he said tonthe “ righteous “ who stood back and rejected him because he was loving sinners enough to give his life

I hope to find some other subject to discuss on sometime but this one isn’t for me ive already been too involved I just was hoping you’d consider the principle of how wrong it is to become an accuser and judge of Gods children and that’s really what your words reflect to Me anyways so I’m out of this one

So sorry your friends of the world are not friends of mine. You missed some amazing content besides this whole dead spirit thing.

Did GOD say eating from that tree was death ...or not?

Do their repeated sins not count as eating from that tree? ...and spiritual death is different from physical death.

haha I’m more confused and perplexed than anything dear brother 🤠 just mistaken for patience cuz I’m always so confused and dazed lol

God bless and keep you in his loving embrace sleep well and let’s pray for this fellow as much as possible I believe he’s a believer and needs some light inside to bring him home

I doubt it. In fact, it is more likely to be just another one of your multitude of lies.

I doubt it. Your "content" does not properly represent Scripture.

Where did you get this idea that anyone currently eats from a tree that
was in the garden of Eden? It's ridiculous. And not Scriptural at all.

they are my brothers and sisters , you are too if you believe in the lord. No hard feelings or anything but honestly take some time and reflect and get back to me tomorrow but do one thing for me , pray a good honest prayer and ask the lord about this matter reflect on what you are saying and how you are treating people who also believe even if you don’t think they are free yet

and just take awhile and listen . I’ll pray also about it and ask about my position then let’s talk tomorrow in humility and see what shakes out

I hope to talk soon. God bless you and may he be merciful to all of us together and help us find some form of unity and peace together

Dude, there is Scripture in this thread the proves Egypt is the tree of knowledge. GOD set His People free from it ...slavery ...sin slavery.

you are a wonderful and encouraging sister to have ! Just saying

The lukewarm don't think their repeated willful sins count as eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. This is mind blowing to me that they can not see the connection. Our spirits eat from the Trees of The Garden ...guess which tree you are eating from?

The following says "drawn away" ...as in separation from GOD!

each one is tempted when he is drawn away by his own desires and enticed.
(James 1:14)

just consider and pray a good believing Christian would be able to endulge me on that and I do believe your a believer in Jesus. let’s talk tomorrow but reflect for a few , rest and let peace do its work

join me in prayer and let’s let the lord work it out I don’t want any issues with you or between you and others , there is value in letting some peace and rest in and letting God hear and answer us one thing about all these folks they are quick to do forgive and forget and move forward of someone stops attacking and accusing

please indulge me on this ot Will benefit both of us I’m gonna rest I hope to talk tomorrow with some better peace

Do you think you are not tempted to eat from that tree?


each one is tempted when he is drawn away by his own desires and enticed.
(James 1:14)

Got that list yet? Oh, believe me, I know you were lying all along.

But you seem to be completely blind to your repeated willful sins.