Donald Trump is a one-trick pony

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ResidentAlien

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The difference in everything are the facts. Did Russia influence voters or hack voting machines?

Did Covid Emergency actions provide easy fraud and illegal activity in swing states to sway an election?

Russia collision and the Steele Dossier was investigated and proven to be no collusion and ended up being a set up paid my the DNC and Hillary Clinton campaign.

2016 election- investigations are still ongoing but state nonpartisan investigations have shown fraudulent acts in the swing states all directed to the DNC and folks like Mark Zuckerberg who helped fund it. Not including the illegal actions taken by state boards and attorney generals to bypass legislative measures.
I'm just saying involvement in politics is futile. There's never an end to the fight; there will always be some new crisis to keep you awake at night.

My citizenship isn't of this world, thankfully.
 

Roughsoul1991

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I'm just saying involvement in politics is futile. There's never an end to the fight; there will always be some new crisis to keep you awake at night.

My citizenship isn't of this world, thankfully.
Many Biblical characters were involved in politics and it wasn't futile for them. I'll name a few. Abraham, Joseph, Moses, Joshua, King David, Esther, Daniel, Elijah, John the Baptist, Jesus, and Paul to name a few.

Not only were all these people involved addressing or working in the governing system at that time, they also spoke God's Word within these systems because God's Word has wisdom on every political topic. It may have felt futile to someone like John the Baptist as he was beheaded but John's mission had been fulfilled in preparing the way for Christ.

The fight does end either in our death or return of Christ.

John 17:14–15 (ESV)
14 I have given them your word, and the world has hated them because they are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. 15 I do not ask that you take them out of the world, but that you keep them from the evil one.

We are not of the world but in the world. We are still here physically but should resist the ways of the world. We remain here physically to do the will of God. We are to be doing the good works that God prepared for us to do.

Unfortunately, those works often clash with the world and sometimes we have a Daniel experience where the King is transformed or we a John the Baptist experience.
 

PennEd

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I'm just saying involvement in politics is futile. There's never an end to the fight; there will always be some new crisis to keep you awake at night.

My citizenship isn't of this world, thankfully.
Lol!

Says the guy that started the thread!
 
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kaylagrl

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I'm just saying involvement in politics is futile. There's never an end to the fight; there will always be some new crisis to keep you awake at night.

My citizenship isn't of this world, thankfully.

Well someone inform the Alien for me that for now, we have to live here. And to turn away from those who are suffering is wrong. We had this whole song and dance before when we allowed millions of Jews to be murdered under Hitler. We even used the same excuses. Not our war, not our problem. We kindly even sent them back to die. So there are times where Christians must, must get involved in politics. Bonhoeffer left Germany and realized he must go back and do what he could, he became a martyr because of it. You can't just turn your head and say it's not my responsibility. It is. Biden out to be thrown out of office. In two yrs there won't be an America to make great again. Yeah, I'll take the one trick pony.
 

ZNP

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Well someone inform the Alien for me that for now, we have to live here. And to turn away from those who are suffering is wrong. We had this whole song and dance before when we allowed millions of Jews to be murdered under Hitler. We even used the same excuses. Not our war, not our problem. We kindly even sent them back to die. So there are times where Christians must, must get involved in politics. Bonhoeffer left Germany and realized he must go back and do what he could, he became a martyr because of it. You can't just turn your head and say it's not my responsibility. It is. Biden out to be thrown out of office. In two yrs there won't be an America to make great again. Yeah, I'll take the one trick pony.
Alien -- we have been given one commandment from the Lord to obey that we love one another even as He has loved us. We may have to die for others, we may have to turn the tables on the money changers, but we continue to pay taxes so as not to offend them and we put up our swords, that is now how we fight the spiritual battle. Our war is not with flesh and blood.
 

maxwel

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Yes I watched it. He said Christmas was to celebrate the birth of Christ. That's probably better than nothing but I wouldn't call it "preaching Christ." .
I don't want to argue about Trump's Christmas message... it just doesn't interest me.

However, since you're talking about "preaching Christ", I do have a question for YOU.
What do YOU consider to be the "gospel of Christ"?
Just so we're all on the same page, can you please offer your definition of the "gospel of Christ"?

Thank you.
Hope you have a lovely day.

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ResidentAlien

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I don't want to argue about Trump's Christmas message... it just doesn't interest me.

However, since you're talking about "preaching Christ", I do have a question for you.
What do you consider to be the "gospel of Christ"?
Just so we're all on the same page, can you please offer your definition of the "gospel of Christ"?

Thank you.
Hope you have a lovely day.

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How 'bout you tell me what page you're on, then we can discuss whether we're on the same page?
 

Artios1

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Just took a quick look but ....you guys are on the same page ...I copied it for ya'll page-6 .....your welcome
 

JTB

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I'd really like to see him back in office and have today's insanity turned around!
Is wishing for the lesser insanity like voting for the lesser evil?

It's still insanity/evil!!!

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JTB

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I'm just saying involvement in politics is futile. There's never an end to the fight; there will always be some new crisis to keep you awake at night.

My citizenship isn't of this world, thankfully.
God told us thousands of years ago that the world will end up in the hands of the anti-christ.

It just amazes me how many Christians think they can change that

Personally, I think getting immersed in the effort to do so is the deception that will ultimately cause many to fulfill a second prophesy - believers turning away from God's Truth

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Oblio

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It's nice that we, as children of the Lord of love, can have a variance of opinions and yet remain respectful of each other.
Treating others how we want to be treated...yeah right, Truman, give yourself a shake!!!
 

JTB

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From my left-of-center perspective, I believe he is far and away the best option. In my opinion.
That's like saying I vote for a demon because he's less evil than voting for satan.
 

ResidentAlien

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God told us thousands of years ago that the world will end up in the hands of the anti-christ.

It just amazes me how many Christians think they can change that
You're right. I'm not against a person having a sense of civic responsibility: educating themselves on the issues, voting, etc. But politics has replaced religion for a lot of people who should know better.

"Let every person submit to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except by God, and the authorities that exist are established by God."—Romans 13:1
 
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Oblio

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There are 3 people in this life that I respect...Trump is one of them. It cost him one billion dollars to be president.
All 3 of them paid a high price to do what they did. One gave up an executive position in order to spend his life on ministering to those that others had failed with (saved my life), the other gave up a chance to open up for The Beatles as the Lord told him to choose between his band and His Lord (saved my life).
I believe the Lord told me that while in office, Trump was sincerely seeking him. I don't know where he's at since the election was stolen from him.
 

ResidentAlien

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There are 3 people in this life that I respect...Trump is one of them. It cost him one billion dollars to be president.
Trump may be rich and powerful as far as the world goes but spiritually he's bankrupt. As a Christian I can't really respect a person like that. I can wish him well and hope he finds the narrow road. But trust him as President? Nah, I don't think so, once was enough.

I believe the Lord told me that while in office, Trump was sincerely seeking him.
The Lord told me he wasn't. Who's right?
 
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Oblio

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Trump may be rich and powerful as far as the world goes but spiritually he's bankrupt. As a Christian I can't really respect a person like that. I can wish him well and hope he finds the narrow road. But trust him as President? Nah, I don't think so, once was enough.



The Lord told me he wasn't. Who's right?
Spiritually bankrupt...so you know him personally.
One day, as I was watching a video of Trump walking through the Whitehouse, the Lord spoke to me. He said, "You are watching Trump finding God."
I know His voice. I don't know you. I don't know the details of what He said to you and I don't know when He said it.
BTW I'm a Canadian.
 
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kaylagrl

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There are 3 people in this life that I respect...Trump is one of them. It cost him one billion dollars to be president.
All 3 of them paid a high price to do what they did. One gave up an executive position in order to spend his life on ministering to those that others had failed with (saved my life), the other gave up a chance to open up for The Beatles as the Lord told him to choose between his band and His Lord (saved my life).
I believe the Lord told me that while in office, Trump was sincerely seeking him. I don't know where he's at since the election was stolen from him.

As I said, I know people who know him personally that say he is born again. I don't know. There was a lot of people praying with him and for him. But a new born Christian doesn't change overnight. And he was under a lot of pressure from the evil radicals on the left that wanted him out of office. I know he stood against abortion, against socialism, for Israel and Christianity. Were he stands with the Lord exactly, I don't know. But he never stopped those that wanted to pray over him. And I can't see Biden agreeing to that. I'd love to see all these Christians that have such a hate on for Trump take office and go under the pressure he went through. Shoot, we can't even be civil with each other in the BDF !!