Jesus' Resurrected Body

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Webers.Home

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Jesus went to the cross with a normal human body. Was it restored to life
no different, or upgraded?
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Jesus went to the cross with a normal human body. Was it restored to life
no different, or upgraded?
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It wasn't restored to life 'no different' AND it wasn't UP-Graded until HE ascended.

"I have glorified You on the earth. I have finished the work which You have given Me to do. 5And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was. " John ch17
 

Magenta

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Jesus certainly looked different after His crucifixion and resurrection... so much
so, that people did not readily recognize Him, even those who knew Him best :)
 

Artios1

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Jesus went to the cross with a normal human body. Was it restored to life
no different, or upgraded?
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When He was raised ....He was raised a spiritual body
1Co 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
 

Webers.Home

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Jehovah's Witnesses insist that Jesus' crucified dead body is still dead, and
its remains are squirreled away on earth in a condition, and a location,
known only to God.

They also insist that his resurrection appearances were done in a
supernatural avatar, viz: a materialized human body rather than an actual
human body.
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Artios1

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Well ...If the Bible is wrong .....then I have had the greatest time getting to a place that isn't there.

FYI ...It ain't wrong.
 

oyster67

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Jesus went to the cross with a normal human body. Was it restored to life
no different, or upgraded?
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At some point it was definitely "upgraded". (Good choice of wording. It definitely went up.)
 
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Jehovah's Witnesses insist that Jesus' crucified dead body is still dead, and
its remains are squirreled away on earth in a condition, and a location,
known only to God.


They also insist that his resurrection appearances were done in a
supernatural avatar, viz: a materialized human body rather than an actual
human body.
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Well, that's just plain old dumb religion for the deceived.

Which is why they are false-jehovah witnesses just as our LORD said there would be:
"Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Behold, I have told you before." Matt ch24

Apostle Peter agrees with the LORD:
"But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves."
2 Peter 2:1
 

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When He was raised ....He was raised a spiritual body
1Co 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
amen he would appear and disappear after the resurrection , the spiritual body is a different type of flesh appearing In both heaven and earth like in the ot

“And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.

But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit. And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?

Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have. And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭24:36

“But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?….There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.

So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: it is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: it is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body.

There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭15:35, 39-40, 42-44‬ ‭KJV‬‬

when he appeared on earth the natural realm of existence his body was material but he was translated also able to appear in heaven the spiritual realm of existence.

it’s like the ot when heavenly bodies appeared in the form of flesh and bone and would appear and disappear seemingly from nowhere
 

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Jesus went to the cross with a normal human body. Was it restored to life
no different, or upgraded?
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Yes and No, Thomas may have felt the nail holes in his hands. I Cor 15 descibes the resurrected body as different.
John in one his letters says they felt the resurrected body. On the road, Jesus did something to their eyes to keep them from recognizing him.
 

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Jehovah's Witnesses insist that Jesus' crucified dead body is still dead, and
its remains are squirreled away on earth in a condition, and a location,
known only to God.


They also insist that his resurrection appearances were done in a
supernatural avatar, viz: a materialized human body rather than an actual
human body.
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I gave up counting the many things they got wrong.

John 20
Jesus Appears to His Disciples
19 On the evening of that first day of the week, when the disciples were together, with the doors locked for fear of the Jewish leaders, Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace be with you!” 20 After he said this, he showed them his hands and side. The disciples were overjoyed when they saw the Lord.
21 Again Jesus said, “Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me, I am sending you.” 22 And with that he breathed on them and said, “Receive the Holy Spirit. 23 If you forgive anyone’s sins, their sins are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven.”
Jesus Appears to Thomas
24 Now Thomas (also known as Didymus[a]), one of the Twelve, was not with the disciples when Jesus came. 25 So the other disciples told him, “We have seen the Lord!”
But he said to them, “Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe.”
26 A week later his disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with them. Though the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace be with you!” 27 Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.”
28 Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”
29 Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”
The Purpose of John’s Gospel
30 Jesus performed many other signs in the presence of his disciples, which are not recorded in this book. 31 But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

1 John 1:1
The Incarnation of the Word of Life
That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked at and our hands have touched—this we proclaim concerning the Word of life.
 

TheLearner

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amen he would appear and disappear after the resurrection , the spiritual body is a different type of flesh appearing In both heaven and earth like in the ot

“And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.

But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit. And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?

Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have. And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭24:36

“But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?….There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.

So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: it is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: it is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body.

There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭15:35, 39-40, 42-44‬ ‭KJV‬‬

when he appeared on earth the natural realm of existence his body was material but he was translated also able to appear in heaven the spiritual realm of existence.

it’s like the ot when heavenly bodies appeared in the form of flesh and bone and would appear and disappear seemingly from nowhere
Luke 24

On The Road to Emmaus
13 That same day two of Jesus’ followers were going to a town named Emmaus. It is about seven miles from Jerusalem. 14 They were talking about everything that had happened. 15 While they were talking, discussing these things, Jesus himself came near and walked with them. 16 (But the two men were not allowed to recognize Jesus.) 17 He asked them, “What’s this I hear you discussing with each other as you walk?”

The two men stopped, their faces looking very sad. 18 The one named Cleopas said, “You must be the only person in Jerusalem who doesn’t know what has just happened there.”

19 Jesus said, “What are you talking about?”

They said, “It’s about Jesus, the one from Nazareth. To God and to all the people he was a great prophet. He said and did many powerful things. 20 But our leaders and the leading priests handed him over to be judged and killed. They nailed him to a cross. 21 We were hoping that he would be the one to free Israel. But then all this happened.

“And now something else: It has been three days since he was killed, 22 but today some of our women told us an amazing thing. Early this morning they went to the tomb where the body of Jesus was laid. 23 But they did not find his body there. They came and told us they had seen some angels in a vision. The angels told them Jesus was alive! 24 So some of our group went to the tomb too. It was just as the women said. They saw the tomb, but they did not see Jesus.”

25 Then Jesus said to the two men, “You are foolish and slow to realize what is true. You should believe everything the prophets said. 26 The prophets said the Messiah must suffer these things before he begins his time of glory.” 27 Then he began to explain everything that had been written about himself in the Scriptures. He started with the books of Moses and then he talked about what the prophets had said about him.

28 They came near the town of Emmaus, and Jesus acted as if he did not plan to stop there. 29 But they wanted him to stay. They begged him, “Stay with us. It’s almost night. There’s hardly any daylight left.” So he went in to stay with them.

30 Joining them at the supper table, Jesus took some bread and gave thanks. Then he broke some off and gave it to them. 31 Just then the men were allowed to recognize him. But when they saw who he was, he disappeared. 32 They said to each other, “When he talked to us on the road, it felt like a fire burning in us. How exciting it was when he explained to us the true meaning of the Scriptures!”

33 So the two men got up then and went back to Jerusalem. There they found the followers of Jesus meeting together. The eleven apostles and the people with them 34 said, “The Lord really has risen from death! He appeared to Simon.”

35 Then the two men told what had happened on the road. They talked about how they recognized Jesus when he shared the bread with them.

Jesus Appears to His Followers
36 While the two men were saying these things to the other followers, Jesus himself came and stood among them. He said to them, “Peace be with you.”

37 This surprised the followers. They were afraid. They thought they were seeing a ghost. 38 But Jesus said, “Why are you troubled? Why do you doubt what you see? 39 Look at my hands and my feet. It’s really me. Touch me. You can see that I have a living body; a ghost does not have a body like this.”

40 After Jesus told them this, he showed them his hands and his feet. 41 The followers were amazed and very, very happy to see that Jesus was alive. They still could not believe what they saw. He said to them, “Do you have any food here?” 42 They gave him a piece of cooked fish. 43 While the followers watched, he took the fish and ate it.

44 Jesus said to them, “Remember when I was with you before? I said that everything written about me must happen—everything written in the Law of Moses, the books of the prophets, and the Psalms.”

45 Then Jesus helped the followers understand these Scriptures about him. 46 Jesus said to them, “It is written that the Messiah would be killed and rise from death on the third day. 47-48 You saw these things happen—you are witnesses. You must go and tell people that they must change and turn to God, which will bring them his forgiveness. You must start from Jerusalem and tell this message in my name to the people of all nations. 49 Remember that I will send you the one my Father promised. Stay in the city until you are given that power from heaven.”

Jesus Goes Back to Heaven
50 Jesus led his followers out of Jerusalem almost to Bethany. He raised his hands and blessed his followers. 51 While he was blessing them, he was separated from them and carried into heaven. 52 They worshiped him and went back to Jerusalem very happy. 53 They stayed at the Temple all the time, praising God.

1 Corinthians 15
Easy-to-Read Version
The Good News About Jesus Christ
15 Now, brothers and sisters, I want you to remember the Good News I told you. You received that Good News message, and you continue to base your life on it. 2 That Good News, the message you heard from me, is God’s way to save you. But you must continue believing it. If you don’t, you believed for nothing.

3 I gave you the message that I received. I told you the most important truths: that Christ died for our sins, as the Scriptures say; 4 that he was buried and was raised to life on the third day, as the Scriptures say; 5 and that he appeared to Peter and then to the twelve apostles. 6 After that Christ appeared to more than 500 other believers at the same time. Most of them are still living today, but some have died. 7 Then he appeared to James and later to all the apostles. 8 Last of all, he appeared to me. I was different, like a baby born before the normal time.
 

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At present; Jesus has a spiritual body, and his faithful followers will all have
spiritual bodies in the future.

The thing is: Jesus' spiritual body, along with the spiritual bodies of his
friends, is capable of dining upon ordinary foods and beverages-- including
the roasted flesh of a lamb.

Matt 26:29 . . I tell you: I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now
on until that day when I drink it anew with you in my Father's kingdom.

Luke 22:15-16 . . I have eagerly desired to eat this Passover with you
before I suffer. For I tell you: I will not eat it again until it finds fulfillment in
the kingdom of God.

Luke 22:28-30 . . However, you are the ones that have stuck with me in
my trials; and I make a covenant with you, just as my Father has made a
covenant with me, for a kingdom, that you may eat and drink at my table in
my kingdom,

The passage below is deliberately misquoted. Watch for the error.

"it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spirit body. If there is a natural
body, there is also a spirit body." (1Cor 15:44)

Well; that's not how the passage is actually translated, but it is the actual
way that some people insist everybody is supposed to interpret it.

Here's a similar misquote:

"They all ate the same spirit food and drank the same spirit drink; for they
drank from the spirit rock that accompanied them, and that rock was
Christ." (1 Cor 10:3-4)

Below are some additional items in the New Testament described as "spiritual"
bearing no similarity whatsoever to the bodily material of a ghost, or an
angel, or a demon.

Spiritual gifts (Rom 1:11)
Spiritual law (Rom 7:14)
Spiritual things (Rom 15:27)
Spiritual people (1Cor 2:15)
Spiritual counselors (Gal 6:1)
Spiritual blessings (Eph 1:3)
Spiritual music (Eph 5:19)
Spiritual understanding (Col 1:9)
Spiritual lodging (1Pet 2:5)
Spiritual sacrifices (1Pet 2:5)
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Mem

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I am leaning toward this conclusion, going on the Spirit, Soul, Body guidelines:
Natural Body; Soulish Body with Spirit
Spiritual Body; Spiritual Body with Soul...

I might have to adjust this idea as I consider this further but, this seems right atm.