DOES THE HOLY SPIRIT INSTRUCT US TO BE CLOTHED IN PUBLIC?

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Magenta

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Man's heart was not filled with lust. When the bible says they were naked it is not speaking
about clothes but man lost his shekinah glory when he sinned. That was his nakedness.
I understand it that way also :)
 

Magenta

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So why do you cling pointlessly to the forbidden knowledge of good and evil? You weren't born with it!
Psalm 51:5
Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me.


Psalm 58:3
The wicked are estranged from the womb; they go astray from birth, speaking lies.


Job 15:14
What is man, that he can be pure? Or he who is born of a woman, that he can be righteous?

Job 14:4
Who can bring a clean thing out of an unclean? There is not one.

Proverbs 22:15
Folly is bound up in the heart of a child, but the rod of discipline drives it far from him.
 

posthuman

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If the Spirit or scripture instruct us to be clothed in public why didn't the Spirit or scripture instruct Adam and Eve to be clothed in public in God's most holy presence?
why is it God's will to clothe us?
2 Corinthians 5:3 maybe?

why does God throw the unclothed out of His presence? ((Matthew 22:12-13))
 

posthuman

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Man's heart was not filled with lust. When the bible says they were naked it is not speaking about clothes but man lost his shekinah glory when he sinned. That was his nakedness.
when it is said we are naked before Him, what is meant is that nothing is hidden.
if we have that which causes shame, it must be hidden if we may stand before Him.
if we have nothing which is to our shame, then we have no need of covering.

Therefore let us cast off the works of darkness,
and let us put on the armor of light
(Romans 13:12)


:)
 

oyster67

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hasn't Jesus delivered us from the knowledge of good and evil by His perfect sacrifice according to Romans7:6?
Romans 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not [in] the oldness of the letter.

I don't think that newness implies nudeness, but even if it did, we would still be willfully and knowingly offending many, and that would be sin.
 

posthuman

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hasn't Jesus delivered us from the knowledge
My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge
(Hosea 4:6)
Satan is the one who said God's will is for man to be ignorant. Genesis 3.
Abaddon is the destroyer. Revelation 9:11.
 
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Oblio

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"I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I now live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me." - Galatians 2:20 And yet...
" I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do." - Romans 7:15 But I fight the good fight...
" Not that I have already obtained all this, or have already arrived at my goal, but I press on to take hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of me." - Philippians 3:12
It's a matter of maturing as a Christian.
 

oyster67

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1 Timothy 2:9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

I would suspect that what is good for the goose is good for the gander. (y)
 
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Oblio

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"The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean." - Revelation 19:14
 

oyster67

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"The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean." - Revelation 19:14
Yes!

I was hoping someone would think of that! :cool:(y)
 

SomeDisciple

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Jesus can live in accordance to the knowledge of good and evil but humans cannot.
Very true. Yet, Jesus taught in the synagogues and explained the forbidden knowledge of good and evil to everyone in the land. I thought he saved people, but if what you say is true, it looks like he was trying to get everyone sent to hell. Same with his Holy Apostles- they also gave explanations of moral knowledge in their epistles. They must be trying to get everyone eternally damned as well.
 

oyster67

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Very true. Yet, Jesus taught in the synagogues and explained the forbidden knowledge of good and evil to everyone in the land. I thought he saved people, but if what you say is true, it looks like he was trying to get everyone sent to hell. Same with his Holy Apostles- they also gave explanations of moral knowledge in their epistles. They must be trying to get everyone eternally damned as well.
Perhaps He shall provide them with asbestos robes then??? :unsure::confused:
 

Gideon300

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So why do you cling pointlessly to the forbidden knowledge of good and evil? You weren't born with it!
I was born dead in trespass and sin. The way to the Tree of Life was blocked to me. I had no choice but to live by the knowledge of good and evil. And that is the lot of every human being. Even those who have gone to be with the Lord are clothed. Lord Jesus did not live by the knowledge of good and evil, yet He wore clothes. I don't know what you are trying to prove, but you are just making a fool of yourself.
 
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I was born dead in trespass and sin. The way to the Tree of Life was blocked to me. I had no choice but to live by the knowledge of good and evil. And that is the lot of every human being. Even those who have gone to be with the Lord are clothed. Lord Jesus did not live by the knowledge of good and evil, yet He wore clothes. I don't know what you are trying to prove, but you are just making a fool of yourself.
Seen through the moral law, Adam and Eve were also born dead in trespass & sin as they were unclothed in God's most holy presence.

The way to the tree of life was not blocked because of your acts but because the knowledge of good and evil which you chose, accuses your acts as sinful.

You were born without the knowledge of good and evil. You chose it as you grew. No excuse.
 
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Very true. Yet, Jesus taught in the synagogues and explained the forbidden knowledge of good and evil to everyone in the land. I thought he saved people, but if what you say is true, it looks like he was trying to get everyone sent to hell. Same with his Holy Apostles- they also gave explanations of moral knowledge in their epistles. They must be trying to get everyone eternally damned as well.
The Jews had diluted the knowledge of good and evil. Jesus was presenting the 100% knowledge of good and evil in order to prove they cannot comply with it in order to be justified. He was showing them they badly needed Him who alone had perfect merits.
 
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My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge
(Hosea 4:6)
Satan is the one who said God's will is for man to be ignorant. Genesis 3.
Abaddon is the destroyer. Revelation 9:11.
Hosea 4:6 talks about knowledge of Jesus & His perfect merits & not about the forbidden knowledge of good and evil.
 
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Romans 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not [in] the oldness of the letter.

I don't think that newness implies nudeness, but even if it did, we would still be willfully and knowingly offending many, and that would be sin.
Newness implies living without the knowledge of good and evil by faith in Christ's merits as Adam and Eve lived.
 
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why is it God's will to clothe us?
2 Corinthians 5:3 maybe?

why does God throw the unclothed out of His presence? ((Matthew 22:12-13))
Those verses talk about moral clothing of Christ's perfect merits & not to physical clothing.