Job 34:7 -> “What man is like Job?

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

soberxp

Senior Member
May 3, 2018
2,511
482
83
#1
Job 34:7 -> “What man is like Job? he drinketh up scorning like water, and goeth in company with workers of iniquity, and walketh with wicked men.”.

What does this mean?I don't see anything wrong with Job, Please answer me why.thx.
 

glen55

Active member
Jul 10, 2021
168
26
28
68
#2
What does explain the personal female name would enter any male name explain what means is diverse teaching its spiritual applicants, covenants will be about your environment called bondage and mountain and Jerusalem
compared to freedom named married and produced first a bond. So Job is a life we all experience it, not just literal males one experience.
 

soberxp

Senior Member
May 3, 2018
2,511
482
83
#3
What does explain the personal female name would enter any male name explain what means is diverse teaching its spiritual applicants, covenants will be about your environment called bondage and mountain and Jerusalem
compared to freedom named married and produced first a bond. So Job is a life we all experience it, not just literal males one experience.
I mean What is the mistake of Job ?
 
Jul 24, 2021
494
78
28
#4
Job 34:7 -> “What man is like Job? he drinketh up scorning like water, and goeth in company with workers of iniquity, and walketh with wicked men.”.

What does this mean?I don't see anything wrong with Job, Please answer me why.thx.
Job is a righteous man. Because of that the devil targets him to prove that his obedience to God is as vapid as the wealth with which he was blessed. He was so affected by the mafia tactics of devil that his friends started to say Job must have sinned (such that God would take retribution). But Job stands by his righteousness and endures the wrong advice and opinions of his so called friends. His friends are calling him the worker of iniquity because they are ill informed.
 

glen55

Active member
Jul 10, 2021
168
26
28
68
#5
I mean What is the mistake of Job ?
Your choices is yours, for me names with problems or being tested by God in man and kingdom in us, still looking for God to come is another opinion.
 
Aug 2, 2021
7,317
2,048
113
#6
Job 34:7 -> “What man is like Job? he drinketh up scorning like water, and goeth in company with workers of iniquity, and walketh with wicked men.”.

What does this mean?I don't see anything wrong with Job, Please answer me why.thx.
These were false accusations made against Job = just like today, religion persecutes the Spirit.
 
Aug 2, 2021
7,317
2,048
113
#7
Job is a righteous man. Because of that the devil targets him to prove that his obedience to God is as vapid as the wealth with which he was blessed. He was so affected by the mafia tactics of devil that his friends started to say Job must have sinned (such that God would take retribution). But Job stands by his righteousness and endures the wrong advice and opinions of his so called friends. His friends are calling him the worker of iniquity because they are ill informed.
Take note of your Post here, especially your last sentence.
 
Jul 24, 2021
494
78
28
#8
Thanks for taking note. But I will add. Job is a good example of righteousness. But we are to follow perfection in Christ.
 
Aug 2, 2021
7,317
2,048
113
#9
Thanks for taking note. But I will add. Job is a good example of righteousness. But we are to follow perfection in Christ.
AND, may i humbly say that Job was a foreshadow of the sufferings of Christ = whose heart never turned aside from the Will of the FATHER.

"I urge you in the sight of God who gives life to all things, and before Christ Jesus who witnessed the good confession before Pontius Pilate," 1 Timothy 6:13

For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in His footsteps:
“He committed no sin,
and no deceit was found in His mouth.”
When they heaped abuse on Him,
He did not retaliate;
when He suffered, He made no threats,
but entrusted Himself to Him who judges justly. - 1 Peter 2:21-23

"who, in the days of His flesh, when He had offered up prayers and supplications, with vehement cries and tears to Him who was able to save Him from death, and was heard because of His godly fear," - Hebrews 5:7
 
Jul 24, 2021
494
78
28
#10
AND, may i humbly say that Job was a foreshadow of the sufferings of Christ = whose heart never turned aside from the Will of the FATHER.

"I urge you in the sight of God who gives life to all things, and before Christ Jesus who witnessed the good confession before Pontius Pilate," 1 Timothy 6:13

For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in His footsteps:
“He committed no sin,
and no deceit was found in His mouth.”
When they heaped abuse on Him,
He did not retaliate;
when He suffered, He made no threats,
but entrusted Himself to Him who judges justly. - 1 Peter 2:21-23

"who, in the days of His flesh, when He had offered up prayers and supplications, with vehement cries and tears to Him who was able to save Him from death, and was heard because of His godly fear," - Hebrews 5:7
I am sure that when we lookup to someone for righteous lessons, we will see Job. But when Job seeks righteous lessons he would see Abraham. And Abraham he would see Jesus.

Jesus was sinless. Never rebuked by the Father.
1 Peter 2:21For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps: 22Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:

Abraham to my knowledge was never rebuked. In fact he was promised swath of land.
2 Chronicles 20:7Our God, did you not drive out the inhabitants of this land before your people Israel and give it forever to the descendants of Abraham your friend?

Job was rebuked, twice in fact
Job 40:5Once have I spoken; but I will not answer: yea, twice; but I will proceed no further.
Job 42:6Wherefore I abhor myself, and repent in dust and ashes.
What was his sin? he doubted God in his righteousness. His righteousness became self-righteousness. Demanding why of God will not be well received.

Follow Jesus to whatever end. That is our lot.
 
Aug 2, 2021
7,317
2,048
113
#11
I am sure that when we lookup to someone for righteous lessons, we will see Job. But when Job seeks righteous lessons he would see Abraham. And Abraham he would see Jesus.

Jesus was sinless. Never rebuked by the Father.
1 Peter 2:21For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps: 22Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:

Abraham to my knowledge was never rebuked. In fact he was promised swath of land.
2 Chronicles 20:7Our God, did you not drive out the inhabitants of this land before your people Israel and give it forever to the descendants of Abraham your friend?

Job was rebuked, twice in fact
Job 40:5Once have I spoken; but I will not answer: yea, twice; but I will proceed no further.
Job 42:6Wherefore I abhor myself, and repent in dust and ashes.
What was his sin? he doubted God in his righteousness. His righteousness became self-righteousness. Demanding why of God will not be well received.

Follow Jesus to whatever end. That is our lot.
OK, you took my bait and now that i have your attention..................

1.) Comparing Abraham to Job we see that Abraham sinned and the LORD had to rescue Sarah from Abraham's sin.
We do not see that with Job.
2.) Abraham was not tested as Job and Abraham/Sarah waiting for offspring does not come anywhere near Job's testing & PATIENCE.
3.) The LORD rebuking Job was a BLESSING.
One which we all would desire if we were honest with ourselves.

But here is another Scripture of High Praise from the LORD that separates Job from Abraham.

The word of the Lord came again to me, saying: “Son of man, when a land sins against Me by persistent unfaithfulness, I will stretch out My hand against it; I will cut off its supply of bread, send famine on it, and cut off man and beast from it.
Even if these three men, Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, they would deliver only themselves by their righteousness,” says the Lord God.

Now you may say that Abraham delivered Lot - nope = not the case, for the Scripture says that Lot was righteous.

and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, making them an example to those who afterward would live ungodly; and delivered righteous Lot, who was oppressed by the filthy conduct of the wicked (for that righteous man, dwelling among them, tormented his righteous soul from day to day by seeing and hearing their lawless deeds)— then the Lord knows how to deliver the godly out of temptations and to reserve the unjust under punishment for the day of judgment, 2 Peter 2:6-9

Abraham is not mentioned here in the deliverance of "righteous Lot".

Job was as much a 'friend' of God as Abraham and even more so.

Now, for your blessing, seek to know why God called Abraham His friend.
CLUE/Answer - It has to do with something pertaining to the Gospel
 
Jul 24, 2021
494
78
28
#12
OK, you took my bait and now that i have your attention..................

1.) Comparing Abraham to Job we see that Abraham sinned and the LORD had to rescue Sarah from Abraham's sin.
We do not see that with Job.
2.) Abraham was not tested as Job and Abraham/Sarah waiting for offspring does not come anywhere near Job's testing & PATIENCE.
3.) The LORD rebuking Job was a BLESSING.
One which we all would desire if we were honest with ourselves.
1)Abraham was not rebuked for throwing Sarah under the bus. The criticism comes from sensibilities of this world. MeToo and sl-tshaming ideas. Abraham did nothing wrong in the Eyes of God. Why? The Lord commanded him to be a Father of the Nation. He did as the Lord commanded at great price. His beloved Sarah. And still better yet our allegorical mother probably agreed to it.
2)Abraham was sacrificing his beloved son Isaac at Moriah. This is the son of his old age. Why because his God asks! Cannot get any hardcore than that. Not knowing how God feels, you should remark Jesus was sacrificed for the betterment of this world. There is a parallel with Abraham and Isaac.
3)Rebuking is means of correction. If the one who is rebuked repents, it is a blessing. Otherwise, the delusion will deepen. Blessing is a secondary effect.

But here is another Scripture of High Praise from the LORD that separates Job from Abraham.

The word of the Lord came again to me, saying: “Son of man, when a land sins against Me by persistent unfaithfulness, I will stretch out My hand against it; I will cut off its supply of bread, send famine on it, and cut off man and beast from it.
Even if these three men, Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, they would deliver only themselves by their righteousness,” says the Lord God.

Now you may say that Abraham delivered Lot - nope = not the case, for the Scripture says that Lot was righteous.

and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, making them an example to those who afterward would live ungodly; and delivered righteous Lot, who was oppressed by the filthy conduct of the wicked (for that righteous man, dwelling among them, tormented his righteous soul from day to day by seeing and hearing their lawless deeds)— then the Lord knows how to deliver the godly out of temptations and to reserve the unjust under punishment for the day of judgment, 2 Peter 2:6-9
Abraham is not mentioned here in the deliverance of "righteous Lot".
Noah a most righteous Patriarch, Daniel a great Prophet, and Job a superbly Righteous man. Not even these would sway punishment of God. The punishment of famine. But consider Abraham

Gen 18:23And Abraham drew near, and said, Wilt thou also destroy the righteous with the wicked? 24Peradventure there be fifty righteous within the city: wilt thou also destroy and not spare the place for the fifty righteous that are therein? 25That be far from thee to do after this manner, to slay the righteous with the wicked: and that the righteous should be as the wicked, that be far from thee: Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right? 26And the LORD said, If I find in Sodom fifty righteous within the city, then I will spare all the place for their sakes.

Abraham questions God in a way that had Job rebuked. Like I said, it is not wise to ask God "Why?". Only a true blue beloved can be comfortable doing this.

Lot was never in the equation. But will need to check it out. I only remember Lot being rescued by some kings.

Job was as much a 'friend' of God as Abraham and even more so.
Now, for your blessing, seek to know why God called Abraham His friend.
CLUE/Answer - It has to do with something pertaining to the Gospel
Not written that Job was God's friend. God's manner to Job was in stark contrast with that of Abraham.

I am guessing.
James 2:18Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. 19Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. 20But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? 21Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? 22Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? 23And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. 24Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

Job's righteousness ended with rebuke and repentance. Abraham's righteousness ended with a nation.[/QUOTE]
 
Aug 2, 2021
7,317
2,048
113
#13
1)Abraham was not rebuked for throwing Sarah under the bus. The criticism comes from sensibilities of this world. MeToo and sl-tshaming ideas. Abraham did nothing wrong in the Eyes of God. Why? The Lord commanded him to be a Father of the Nation. He did as the Lord commanded at great price. His beloved Sarah. And still better yet our allegorical mother probably agreed to it.
2)Abraham was sacrificing his beloved son Isaac at Moriah. This is the son of his old age. Why because his God asks! Cannot get any hardcore than that. Not knowing how God feels, you should remark Jesus was sacrificed for the betterment of this world. There is a parallel with Abraham and Isaac.
3)Rebuking is means of correction. If the one who is rebuked repents, it is a blessing. Otherwise, the delusion will deepen. Blessing is a secondary effect.


Noah a most righteous Patriarch, Daniel a great Prophet, and Job a superbly Righteous man. Not even these would sway punishment of God. The punishment of famine. But consider Abraham

Gen 18:23And Abraham drew near, and said, Wilt thou also destroy the righteous with the wicked? 24Peradventure there be fifty righteous within the city: wilt thou also destroy and not spare the place for the fifty righteous that are therein? 25That be far from thee to do after this manner, to slay the righteous with the wicked: and that the righteous should be as the wicked, that be far from thee: Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right? 26And the LORD said, If I find in Sodom fifty righteous within the city, then I will spare all the place for their sakes.

Abraham questions God in a way that had Job rebuked. Like I said, it is not wise to ask God "Why?". Only a true blue beloved can be comfortable doing this.

Lot was never in the equation. But will need to check it out. I only remember Lot being rescued by some kings.



Not written that Job was God's friend. God's manner to Job was in stark contrast with that of Abraham.

I am guessing.
James 2:18Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. 19Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. 20But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? 21Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? 22Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? 23And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. 24Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

Job's righteousness ended with rebuke and repentance. Abraham's righteousness ended with a nation.
[/QUOTE]

You have a misapplication of Abraham, seeking to exalt him beyond the scope of Scripture and his role.
The LORD calling Abraham 'friend' has to do with the Gospel and God's plan thru Abraham Isaac and Jacob.
The timing of this by the LORD is crucial to to the Gospel, God foreseeing those who would believe the Gospel as Abraham.
Therefore God reserved the 'freind' quote for the sake of the Gospel and ALL who would believe as Abraham = Jew & Gentile alike
This is what you are not seeing.
JESUS says: "I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master’s business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you."

Now, you will say to me: 'SEE DavidTree, Job was the servant of God whereas Abraham was God's friend..."
ALL who believe the Gospel and are Baptized in the Holy Spirit are God's friend and even more.
Job was BEFORE Abraham and Job's Faithfullness in enduring unjust suffering against him while remaining TRUE to God is the Greatest Aspect and Example of CHRIST going to the Cross and suffering unjustly for our sins.
Which Abraham was not tested in because it was not his role under the Plan of God.
Job began as the "servant of God" and in the End Job became the freind of God.
Job was exalted by God so much so that HE had Job pray for his 'friends' = Can you SEE now???

There is another servant of God who was far greater the Abraham = Enoch
Enoch had this testimony "that he pleased God and was not for God took him."

FINALLY there is the Greatest Servant of ALL = Do you know Him???

Behold, My Servant shall deal prudently;
He shall be exalted and extolled and be very high.
Just as many were astonished at you,
So His visage was marred more than any man,
And His form more than the sons of men;
So shall He sprinkle many nations.
Kings shall shut their mouths at Him;
For what had not been told them they shall see,
And what they had not heard they shall consider.

“For truly against Your holy Servant Jesus, whom You anointed, both Herod and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles and the people of Israel, were gathered together to do whatever Your hand and Your purpose determined before to be done. Now, Lord, look on their threats, and grant to Your servants that with all boldness they may speak Your word, by stretching out Your hand to heal, and that signs and wonders may be done through the name of Your holy Servant Jesus.”
And when they had prayed, the place where they were assembled together was shaken; and they were all filled with the Holy Spirit, and they spoke the word of God with boldness." Acts 4:27-31

Do a word study on 'servant' and see why JESUS said: "But he who is greatest among you shall be your servant."

Job was as much a friend to God and even the more so for Abraham never suffered for Righteousness as the LORD Jesus did and Job.

Be patient, then, brothers, until the Lord’s coming. See how the farmer awaits the precious fruit of the soil—how patient he is for the fall and spring rains.a 8You, too, be patient and strengthen your hearts, because the Lord’s coming is near. 9Do not complain about one another, brothers, so that you will not be judged. Look, the Judge is standing at the door!

10Brothers, as an example of patience in affliction, take the prophets who spoke in the name of the Lord. 11See how blessed we consider those who have persevered. You have heard of Job’s perseverance and have seen the outcome from the Lord. The Lord is full of compassion and mercy.
 
Jul 24, 2021
494
78
28
#14
You have a misapplication of Abraham, seeking to exalt him beyond the scope of Scripture and his role.
The LORD calling Abraham 'friend' has to do with the Gospel and God's plan thru Abraham Isaac and Jacob.
The timing of this by the LORD is crucial to to the Gospel, God foreseeing those who would believe the Gospel as Abraham.
To whom was the Promise made? Job. No. The Promise was made to Abraham, we are the beneficiaries of such a Contract. There is no timing or hidden initiate mystery. It is history, cause and effect.

Therefore God reserved the 'freind' quote for the sake of the Gospel and ALL who would believe as Abraham = Jew & Gentile alike

This is what you are not seeing.
JESUS says: "I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master’s business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you."
Now, you will say to me: 'SEE DavidTree, Job was the servant of God whereas Abraham was God's friend..."
ALL who believe the Gospel and are Baptized in the Holy Spirit are God's friend and even more.
Job was BEFORE Abraham and Job's Faithfullness in enduring unjust suffering against him while remaining TRUE to God is the Greatest Aspect and Example of CHRIST going to the Cross and suffering unjustly for our sins.
Which Abraham was not tested in because it was not his role under the Plan of God.
Job began as the "servant of God" and in the End Job became the freind of God.
Job was exalted by God so much so that HE had Job pray for his 'friends' = Can you SEE now???
`JESUS says:`` Read the whole sentence. You have been told the Christian "Mysteries". You know know the truth. Your obedience makes you friends. Disobedience gets you "I don't know you".
Abraham was plainly written as the friend of God. Know that.

You are arm waving. Listen to the words plainly and avoid conjecture.
Those who obey the Scriptures are the Sons of God and will find Joy. Those who disobey by adding or removing from the Good Book will suffer and know Fear. Plainly written.
Job was a contemporary of Abraham and was written as a parable of man's righteousness. Job reached his limit and was found wanting in the Eyes of God. Job 38-42
Abraham was asked to sacrifice in Moriah by God and he obeyed.`Gen 22
Job as a friend. That is not written.
Praying for your friends, that is expected of anyone obeying God.

There is another servant of God who was far greater the Abraham = Enoch
Enoch had this testimony "that he pleased God and was not for God took him."
Once again the verses says what is says. Where is the "greater than Abraham".I certainly hope you are not using Book of Enoch a means of proof. There is a reason it is not Canon.

FINALLY there is the Greatest Servant of ALL = Do you know Him???

Behold, My Servant shall deal prudently;
He shall be exalted and extolled and be very high.
Just as many were astonished at you,
So His visage was marred more than any man,
And His form more than the sons of men;
So shall He sprinkle many nations.
Kings shall shut their mouths at Him;
For what had not been told them they shall see,
And what they had not heard they shall consider.

“For truly against Your holy Servant Jesus, whom You anointed, both Herod and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles and the people of Israel, were gathered together to do whatever Your hand and Your purpose determined before to be done. Now, Lord, look on their threats, and grant to Your servants that with all boldness they may speak Your word, by stretching out Your hand to heal, and that signs and wonders may be done through the name of Your holy Servant Jesus.”
And when they had prayed, the place where they were assembled together was shaken; and they were all filled with the Holy Spirit, and they spoke the word of God with boldness." Acts 4:27-31

Do a word study on 'servant' and see why JESUS said: "But he who is greatest among you shall be your servant."

Job was as much a friend to God and even the more so for Abraham never suffered for Righteousness as the LORD Jesus did and Job.

Be patient, then, brothers, until the Lord’s coming. See how the farmer awaits the precious fruit of the soil—how patient he is for the fall and spring rains.a 8You, too, be patient and strengthen your hearts, because the Lord’s coming is near. 9Do not complain about one another, brothers, so that you will not be judged. Look, the Judge is standing at the door!

10Brothers, as an example of patience in affliction, take the prophets who spoke in the name of the Lord. 11See how blessed we consider those who have persevered. You have heard of Job’s perseverance and have seen the outcome from the Lord. The Lord is full of compassion and mercy.
I read the Good Book plainly without conjecture. You placed many quotes. Put them in context wrt your arguments for me, so I can formally assess. But I leave you with this, read the last part of James 5:11 which you have quoted - The Lord is full of compassion and mercy. Job got everything back in spades. Why? because God is merciful.
 
Aug 2, 2021
7,317
2,048
113
#15
To whom was the Promise made? Job. No. The Promise was made to Abraham, we are the beneficiaries of such a Contract. There is no timing or hidden initiate mystery. It is history, cause and effect.



`JESUS says:`` Read the whole sentence. You have been told the Christian "Mysteries". You know know the truth. Your obedience makes you friends. Disobedience gets you "I don't know you".
Abraham was plainly written as the friend of God. Know that.

You are arm waving. Listen to the words plainly and avoid conjecture.
Those who obey the Scriptures are the Sons of God and will find Joy. Those who disobey by adding or removing from the Good Book will suffer and know Fear. Plainly written.
Job was a contemporary of Abraham and was written as a parable of man's righteousness. Job reached his limit and was found wanting in the Eyes of God. Job 38-42
Abraham was asked to sacrifice in Moriah by God and he obeyed.`Gen 22
Job as a friend. That is not written.
Praying for your friends, that is expected of anyone obeying God.



Once again the verses says what is says. Where is the "greater than Abraham".I certainly hope you are not using Book of Enoch a means of proof. There is a reason it is not Canon.



I read the Good Book plainly without conjecture. You placed many quotes. Put them in context wrt your arguments for me, so I can formally assess. But I leave you with this, read the last part of James 5:11 which you have quoted - The Lord is full of compassion and mercy. Job got everything back in spades. Why? because God is merciful.
First of ALL - we both agree with each other and are coming in from different Scriptural 'Landmarks' that point to the SAME Place which is Christ Jesus our LORD - amen

Therefore, we are not in a battle of mere whit here but we are, in the Good Pleasure of our Father, sharpening each other.
As it is written: "As iron sharpens iron so one man sharpens another."
With this pure Foundation we both stand on, we continue to sharpen with:

And God wasn't merciful to Abraham??? Abraham did not need God's mercy??? Nonsense
Abraham was never in need and did not need HELP from God??? Nonsense
The 'friends' of God do not need mercy from HIM who sits on the Mercy Seat??? - NONSENSE

"Let us then approach God’s throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need." Hebrews 4:16

Does this scripture speak to the 'enemies' of God? or does it, in fact, speak to and written for HIS 'friends'.................

Seeing then that we(His sons/us) have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession. For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin. Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need. Heb 4:14-16

Jesus said "Abraham rejoiced to see my day"

Job actually received his prayer & petition when the LORD came to him, and the LORD'S Mercy(His Day) was upon Job from the very Beginning to the very End = GOSPEL = same with Abraham = same with us who are His.

GOSPEL = The Scripture exalts Job, in the same manner as Abraham making no distinction between Jew & Gentile of God's Mercy.

And so it was, after the Lord had spoken these words to Job, that the Lord said to Eliphaz the Temanite, “My wrath is aroused against you and your two friends, for you have not spoken of Me what is right, as My servant Job has.
Now therefore, take for yourselves seven bulls and seven rams, go to My servant Job(Christ),
and offer up for yourselves a burnt offering; and My servant Job shall pray for you.(Christ)
For I will accept him/Job(Christ), lest I deal with you according to your folly;
because you have not spoken of Me what is right, as My servant Job."(Christ)

6 times the LORD says: "My servant Job" as a Blessing and not a curse(Testimony and Witness of God).
The 7th time Job is mentioned, is of REST and speaks of the Second Coming of the LORD.

Going back to Hebrews 4:16 = Everyday we are in need for Mercy and Grace from our High Priest, the LORD Yeshuah HaMashiach.

For your Father knows the things you have need of before you ask Him. In this manner, therefore, pray:
Our Father in heaven,
Hallowed be Your name.
Your kingdom come.
Your will be done
On earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our debts,
As we forgive our debtors.
And do not lead us into temptation,
But deliver us from the evil one.
For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.

It is written: "man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that proceeds from the Mouth of God."

Jesus says of Himself: "I am the Alpha and the Omega - the First and the Last."

Abraham was the beginning of the Gospel and Job is the completion of the Gospel = His Second Coming.

First came the righteousness of faith/Abraham the LORD finished with the righteousness of faith/Job.
= Beginning and End of the Gospel by Grace, both men not under the Law.
 
Jul 24, 2021
494
78
28
#16
First of ALL - we both agree with each other and are coming in from different Scriptural 'Landmarks' that point to the SAME Place which is Christ Jesus our LORD - amen

Therefore, we are not in a battle of mere whit here but we are, in the Good Pleasure of our Father, sharpening each other.
As it is written: "As iron sharpens iron so one man sharpens another."
With this pure Foundation we both stand on, we continue to sharpen with:

And God wasn't merciful to Abraham??? Abraham did not need God's mercy??? Nonsense
Abraham was never in need and did not need HELP from God??? Nonsense
The 'friends' of God do not need mercy from HIM who sits on the Mercy Seat??? - NONSENSE

"Let us then approach God’s throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need." Hebrews 4:16

Does this scripture speak to the 'enemies' of God? or does it, in fact, speak to and written for HIS 'friends'.................

Seeing then that we(His sons/us) have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession. For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin. Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need. Heb 4:14-16

Jesus said "Abraham rejoiced to see my day"

Job actually received his prayer & petition when the LORD came to him, and the LORD'S Mercy(His Day) was upon Job from the very Beginning to the very End = GOSPEL = same with Abraham = same with us who are His.

GOSPEL = The Scripture exalts Job, in the same manner as Abraham making no distinction between Jew & Gentile of God's Mercy.

And so it was, after the Lord had spoken these words to Job, that the Lord said to Eliphaz the Temanite, “My wrath is aroused against you and your two friends, for you have not spoken of Me what is right, as My servant Job has.
Now therefore, take for yourselves seven bulls and seven rams, go to My servant Job(Christ),
and offer up for yourselves a burnt offering; and My servant Job shall pray for you.(Christ)
For I will accept him/Job(Christ), lest I deal with you according to your folly;
because you have not spoken of Me what is right, as My servant Job."(Christ)

6 times the LORD says: "My servant Job" as a Blessing and not a curse(Testimony and Witness of God).
The 7th time Job is mentioned, is of REST and speaks of the Second Coming of the LORD.

Going back to Hebrews 4:16 = Everyday we are in need for Mercy and Grace from our High Priest, the LORD Yeshuah HaMashiach.

For your Father knows the things you have need of before you ask Him. In this manner, therefore, pray:
Our Father in heaven,
Hallowed be Your name.
Your kingdom come.
Your will be done
On earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our debts,
As we forgive our debtors.
And do not lead us into temptation,
But deliver us from the evil one.
For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.

It is written: "man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that proceeds from the Mouth of God."

Jesus says of Himself: "I am the Alpha and the Omega - the First and the Last."

Abraham was the beginning of the Gospel and Job is the completion of the Gospel = His Second Coming.

First came the righteousness of faith/Abraham the LORD finished with the righteousness of faith/Job.
= Beginning and End of the Gospel by Grace, both men not under the Law.
Gentiles are God's by proxy. The sponsor of us gentiles are because of Jesus in the NT. The reason is because of Abraham of the OT. With all due respect to Job, he is not a father to any of us. He is not the Eldest nor is he of the Promise.
 
Aug 2, 2021
7,317
2,048
113
#17
Gentiles are God's by proxy. The sponsor of us gentiles are because of Jesus in the NT. The reason is because of Abraham of the OT. With all due respect to Job, he is not a father to any of us. He is not the Eldest nor is he of the Promise.
WOW - you really do not know Scripture.............