Children’s Risk of Death Increases by 5100% Following Covid-19 Vaccination Compared to Unvaccinated Children According to Official ONS Data

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A 51x increase is a 0.5% risk.
‘Don’t twist and lie for whoever is paying you.
Every kid who dies in a hospital is a tragedy to the parents, this shows that the numbers are 51x higher, for every kid dying in 2019 we now have 51 kids dying.

Nobody is paying me. Don't dodge the question. Either you are a despicable idiot who could care less about kids dying or you are a shill for Pfizer or some other vested interest in holding down the truth on this vaccine.

Also, death is not the only adverse reaction. Does this mean that we have 51x the kids with myocarditis, a very serious condition that greatly shortens your lifespan?

The truth is incredibly alarming and demands further study and a suspension of all vaccine mandates for kids.
 

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Every kid who dies in a hospital is a tragedy to the parents, this shows that the numbers are 51x higher, for every kid dying in 2019 we now have 51 kids dying.

Nobody is paying me. Don't dodge the question. Either you are a despicable idiot who could care less about kids dying or you are a shill for Pfizer or some other vested interest in holding down the truth on this vaccine.

Also, death is not the only adverse reaction. Does this mean that we have 51x the kids with myocarditis, a very serious condition that greatly shortens your lifespan?

The truth is incredibly alarming and demands further study and a suspension of all vaccine mandates for kids.
‘There is no question and you must be completely senseless for scaring parents into magnifying a small side effect issue and painting it out to be something grand by using numbers such as 5100%.
The truth is that there is a risk of myocarditis which is also acknowledged by almost everyone. And the truth is that this risk is small.
‘So don’t scare parents into something huge but be fair and don’t push an agenda.
 

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Really?
Don’t you think you should be doing the same when you post out-of-this-world stuff?
This was said in response to BeeThePeace

So I looked at Eli1's other posts on this thread:

Post #5 Wow such a shame. All these unsaved children will go to hell.

Despicable.


Post #11 I believe that after 2000 years of schisms and denominations, everybody‘s right.

Just like the OP.

In fact, immediately after reading this OP, 52% of children in my neighborhood died.


Deceitful lie. Tries to mischaracterize what has been said to then claim it is false. This is a straw man argument. A lie.

Post #19 I can’t wait for your correct version. [GaryA]

Counting me this is the third person he has accused of spreading disinformation: BeeThePeace, GaryA and myself.

Post #21 Please think about what you say in a public forum in real life and the internet.
Think about the consequences this would have on families and the stress and anxiety this would cause when they (falsely ) hear that 52% of their children will die because of vaccination.


Think about that next time.

Because if this was true, we would see massive death around us worldwide but we don’t.

So, think about it.


I pointed out to him that he was mischaracterizing a 5100% increase and that it came out to closer to 0.5% children dying (though that is a rough estimate based on a cursory search of death rates on children). The honorable thing to do would be to apologize for this huge error, instead he accused me of being a liar because I have no issue with the title.
 

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The honorable thing to do for you would be to acknowledge that you are making a mountain out of a mole and move on.
Without even getting into the reasons as to why you or others are doing this, the most fair and honorable thing would be to acknowledge that what you’re saying is really small but you want to make it big.
 

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The honorable thing to do for you would be to acknowledge that you are making a mountain out of a mole and move on.
Without even getting into the reasons as to why you or others are doing this, the most fair and honorable thing would be to acknowledge that what you’re saying is really small but you want to make it big.
You called me a liar. Either you repent or you will pay the full price.
 

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You called me a liar. Either you repent or you will pay the full price.
You are a liar.
Repent or pay the full price.
Shame on you for scaring parents !
 

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You are a liar.
Repent or pay the full price.
Shame on you for scaring parents !
I did not start this thread, nor did I do the study or publish the article. Therefore it is a deliberate mischaracterization to say that I am scaring parents.

What I did do was correct you when you said that 5100% increase in deaths among children meant 51-52% of kids were dying. Not only was your post not true, that was a deliberate attempt to scare parents with misinformation.

so far on this thread you have said that every child who dies from this is going to hell (post #5), many took offense at that and yet you went further and said that 52% of the children in your neighborhood died (Post #11). Clearly a lie. But that didn't phase you because you then told GaryA to correct his posts (Post #19). Then you doubled down and said that this thread was claiming that 52% of kids would die from this vaccine (Post #21). One might think you were simply clueless on what was actually being said but at this point it is not reasonable to conclude that. You have been given plenty of opportunity to correct your mischaracterization, but instead you call me a liar.

I am now the third person you have accused of spreading misinformation on this thread.
 

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Leave others out of this and speak for yourself because they can talk to me directly if they want.

On post 24 I was attempting to correct your incorrect reasoning that You supporting the headline is wrong.
It seems that you did not like that.
So own up to it if you’re a man and that’s it.
 

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Leave others out of this and speak for yourself because they can talk to me directly if they want.

On post 24 I was attempting to correct your incorrect reasoning that You supporting the headline is wrong.
It seems that you did not like that.
So own up to it if you’re a man and that’s it.
You started posting here with an attempt to be the most vile possible saying it was a shame that all those kids who die from the vaccine are going to hell. You follow that up with a brazen lie that 52% of the kids in your neighborhood died. When corrected you took offense at the title of the article saying that 5100% increase was a lie since the total number who died is less than the 52% you claimed? Because the research article doesn't agree with your lie therefore they are lying?

Now you want me to apologize because I explained to you the error in your calculation.

Meanwhile you accuse BeeThePeace, GaryA and myself of spreading disinformation or of being a liar.

Bottom line you slander others and lie.
 

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You started posting here with an attempt to be the most vile possible saying it was a shame that all those kids who die from the vaccine are going to hell. You follow that up with a brazen lie that 52% of the kids in your neighborhood died. When corrected you took offense at the title of the article saying that 5100% increase was a lie since the total number who died is less than the 52% you claimed? Because the research article doesn't agree with your lie therefore they are lying?

Now you want me to apologize because I explained to you the error in your calculation.

Meanwhile you accuse BeeThePeace, GaryA and myself of spreading disinformation or of being a liar.
You all start posting misleading lies here that 52% of children will die like they’re some kind of flies and not human?
So when I confront you and correct you on your lies you wanna play the victim?
Really?
 

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You all start posting misleading lies here that 52% of children will die like they’re some kind of flies and not human?
So when I confront you and correct you on your lies you wanna play the victim?
Really?
You are the only person on this thread who has posted that 52% will die (see Post
Post #30 you called me a liar. Post #33 you again repeated that I was a liar. Then in Post #40 you call me a liar. Then in Post #42 you accuse me of something I didn't do. Then in Post #46 you called me a liar again). Why did you do that? Because I told you that a 5100% increase in the rate of death among kids does not mean that 52% of them will die.

As for what I want to do, I want to make sure everyone on this forum knows exactly who Eli1 is. He is the one who said every kid who dies is going to hell, he is the one who said that a 51x increase in the death of kids after getting the vaccine is "a mole hill". He is the one who has accused BeeThePeace, GaryA and myself of being liars.
 

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You are the only person on this thread who has posted that 52% will die (see Post
Post #30 you called me a liar. Post #33 you again repeated that I was a liar. Then in Post #40 you call me a liar. Then in Post #42 you accuse me of something I didn't do. Then in Post #46 you called me a liar again). Why did you do that? Because I told you that a 5100% increase in the rate of death among kids does not mean that 52% of them will die.

As for what I want to do, I want to make sure everyone on this forum knows exactly who Eli1 is. He is the one who said every kid who dies is going to hell, he is the one who said that a 51x increase in the death of kids after getting the vaccine is "a mole hill". He is the one who has accused BeeThePeace, GaryA and myself of being liars.
Why don’t you admit that the risk is low?
Go ahead, try it. Nothing bad will happen.
The truth will set you free.
 

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Why don’t you admit that the risk is low?
Go ahead, try it. Nothing bad will happen.
The truth will set you free.
Why don't you read post #22

If 1 kid in 10,000 typically dies before 18, then a 52x increase would be 52 out of 10,000. That is nowhere near 50% of kids. That is a huge, incredible and unprecedented increase, but still only accounts for 0.5% of kids or 1/100th of what you just said.

I wrote this. Once again every post you make is deceitful.

You accuse me of saying that 52% of kids will die (Post #50) -- blatant lie. And not only me but everyone else on this thread when you are the only one who has said this and said it repeatedly even though you know it is false and a lie and have been warned that it is a lie.
 

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Why don't you read post #22

If 1 kid in 10,000 typically dies before 18, then a 52x increase would be 52 out of 10,000. That is nowhere near 50% of kids. That is a huge, incredible and unprecedented increase, but still only accounts for 0.5% of kids or 1/100th of what you just said.

I wrote this. Once again every post you make is deceitful.

You accuse me of saying that 52% of kids will die (Post #50) -- blatant lie. And not only me but everyone else on this thread when you are the only one who has said this and said it repeatedly even though you know it is false and a lie and have been warned that it is a lie.
This title is a lie.
‘You are defending a lie.
‘The true title is “This is a very low risk”.
The title and all of you supporting it are unaware of the stress you’re causing to parents by using this language.
Why? Because it’s one big fat lie !
 

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This title is a lie.
‘You are defending a lie.
‘The true title is “This is a very low risk”.
The title and all of you supporting it are unaware of the stress you’re causing to parents by using this language.
Why? Because it’s one big fat lie !
Here are excerpts from the article

These figures are horrifying. The ONS data shows that between 1st Jan and 31st Oct 21, children aged 10-14 were statistically 10 times more likely to die than unvaccinated children, and teenagers aged 15-19 were statistically 2 times more likely to die than unvaccinated teenagers.

But it’s the double vaccinated figures that are truly frightening.

The ONS data shows that between 1st Jan and 31st Oct 21, teenagers aged 15-19 were statistically 3 times more likely to die than unvaccinated teenagers, but children aged 10-14 were statistically 52 times more likely to die than unvaccinated children, recording a death rate of 238.37 per 100,000 person years.But these figures are in fact even worse than they first appear, as if they weren’t already bad enough. This is because the unvaccinated mortality rate among 10-14-year-olds includes children aged 10 and 11 who are not eligible for vaccination...


Therefore, if the Covid-19 injections were not causing the untimely deaths of children then we would actually expect to see a mortality rate that is lower among the vaccinated population than the mortality rate among the unvaccinated population, not a mortality rate that is similar, and certainly not a mortality rate 52 times higher.

This jaw dropping and horrifying data should be national headline news.

https://dailyexpose.uk/2022/04/27/kids-death-risk-increases-5100percent-covid-vaccination/

What you call "very low risk" normal people call horrifying and jaw dropping. You have the right to your opinion, even a despicable opinion, but you don't have the right to slander others. You have slandered me calling me a liar because I don't agree with your assessment that "this is a very small risk".
 

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This is a very small risk and you slander others by using inflammatory language to scare parents into something which isn’t true by using a shocking headline. It’s simply despicable to use children to do this too.
This is why it’s not headline news anywhere in the world because everyone in the world says the TRUE title that “a small risk exists” not a title which says “There’s a 5100% higher risk of death”.

So yeah try to shift the blame on “opinion” now because you can’t admit the truth.
 

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This is a very small risk and you slander others by using inflammatory language to scare parents into something which isn’t true by using a shocking headline. It’s simply despicable to use children to do this too.
This is why it’s not headline news anywhere in the world because everyone in the world says the TRUE title that “a small risk exists” not a title which says “There’s a 5100% higher risk of death”.

So yeah try to shift the blame on “opinion” now because you can’t admit the truth.
Once again you mischaracterize, I quoted the article, the article called it horrifying, the article made the headline. I have commented on the article and corrected your attempt at a straw man argument. You tried to get people to think that 5100% increase in the death rate meant that 52% of kids were dying. You are the one who tried to scare people with your lie. You were the one who said that every kid who died was going to hell. That is despicable.

What the article says is that the kids are statistically 52x more likely to die than the unvaccinated kids the same age.

I can admit the truth. You have lied. You repeatedly lie. You slander others. You accused everyone on this thread as being part of this lie about 52% of kids dying when it was only you that had said that. You accused others of lying: namely BeeThePeace, GaryA, and myself. And you have repeatedly shared the despicable opinion that this 5100% increase in the death rate among vaccinated kids aged 10-14 is "a mole hill", just "a small risk".
 

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Leave others out of this and speak for yourself because they can talk to me directly if they want.
What a joke. This is a public forum. Everything you post on this forum is open for me to discuss. You want to talk to them privately then use the PM. The fact that you have called 3 people on this thread liars or accused them of spreading misinformation is very relevant. You are a slanderer. You are an accuser of the brethren.
 

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You and others (since you like to include your lying friends too) try to get people to think that they shouldn’t vaccinate their children because there’s a 5100% increase that they will die when in fact you should say that “There’s a .5% chance that they will die”.
These are people that we‘re talking about. Not rabbits.
Don‘t lie and scare parents with deceitful headlines !
 

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You and others (since you like to include your lying friends too) try to get people to think that they shouldn’t vaccinate their children because there’s a 5100% increase that they will die when in fact you should say that “There’s a .5% chance that they will die”.
These are people that we‘re talking about. Not rabbits.
Don‘t lie and scare parents with deceitful headlines !
Once again you misquote me and others.

But glad to clarify -- children aged 10-14 who are double vaxxed were 52x more likely to die. That means if their chance of dying was 0.01% it is now about 0.5%. Another way to look at that number is for every 200 kids double vaxxed one died whereas for the unvaccinated it was one out of 10,000. Another way to look at this is life is like Russian roulette for this age group there is normally 1 bullet with 9,999 blanks. But when these parents and officials forced the kids to get vaccinated they added 51 more bullets to this chamber.

The article is not predicting the future, it is evaluating the data of the past. For all we know this death rate will continue increasing at an exponential rate, or it may flatten out.

What is essential for any reasonable civilization is to immediately stop any vaccine mandate and determine what is going on.