Water baptism is necessary to be in the first resurrection

The scriptures actually refutes your false claims.

John 1:12,13
12But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

Here is the authority ( there is no doubt) ;

Baptism is Required



Peter 3: 21.... whereunto even baptism doth also now save us...

John 3:5 .......Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.


Acts 2;38-....Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Acts 22;16... And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.


Galations 3:26...... For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

KJV Marrk 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

KJV Matthew 3:14... But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me? 15. Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now, for thus it becometh us to fulfil all rightesousness. Then He suffered Him.

KJV Matthew 28:19..... Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:.

Acts 8:12-18: But when they believed Philip as he preached the things concerning the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, both men and women were baptized.

Acts 19:4 And Paul said, “John baptized with the baptism of repentance, telling the people to believe in the one who was to come after him, that is, Jesus.”

John 3; 22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized.
23 And John also was baptizing in Aenon near to Salim, because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized.

Quote from Billy Graham that is note worthy;
....Also, to clarify I did not say remission of sin takes place at repentance. Scripture makes it clear that it occurs upon obedience to water baptism in the name of the Lord Jesus. Each is a step of faith, along with receiving the Holy Ghost, in the process of one's spiritual rebirth

.."Paul explains the doctrinal significance of what occurs when one is baptized.His explanation is found in his letter to those who had already been obedient to the command.

Paul tells the Roman Christians what actually occurred when they were/are baptized; they were baptized into His death. Being buried with Jesus into His death resulted in their sin being destroyed.

Even though Paul explains this concept, the NEW AGE RELIGION TEACHING is......... that water baptism is nothing other than a mere public display.......... And that is so far removed from the truth.

......If you were baptized for some reason other than for forgiveness of sins in order to be ...born again... then you do not have salvation and you are still lost. Who are you going to follow: God or man? As our Lord warns us in Matthew 15:14, "And if the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a ditch." Don't allow someone, who has added to and taken away from God's word, to lead you. Open your eyes and read God's word for yourself. Those who have added to and taken away from God's word will be lost. If you continue to follow them, then you too will be lost.

Keep in mind that Satan knows if he can continue to perpetuate that lie ...... he can keep people from entering the kingdom of God. Thus He has proven scripture which says ...in the end times there will be ...great delusions.....they are here.

Conclusion....teaching that baptism is not necessary is violation of Rev. 22;19.... And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. 20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. (Also two other books of the Bible).

Her claims are NOT false.

Hello,

I’m pondering if there is a difference between being SAVED and being BORN AGAIN….

SAVED by the Blood and Body of Jesus Christ; and

BORN AGAIN by Water Baptism and Holy Spirit Baptism.

What are your thoughts?

Womb fluid is 98% water.

That part in Revelation 22 is referring to John's book of Revelation. Because at the time it was penned by him there was no published bible with new testament.

Yes....big time difference.

Born again is our status on earth as long as we have;
1) Repented
2) Been baptized
3) Live a righteous life until the end. (Bible says...maintain until the end)

Saved;
The Bible says..."it is appointed unto man once to die"....after that the Judgement.

Upon physical death from this earthly body we will be judged. Christ will judge us ...saved....or we will be denied eternal salvation.

ds is not in conformatiance with agod's commandment...He said water.


LOL...take it up with science;

Blood....not water
Urine...not water
Tears...not water
Amniotic fluid....not water
Cellular fluid....not water
Saliva...not water
Spinal fluid...not water
Breast milk...not water
Mucus...not water
Pericardial fluid...not water
Digestive fluids in stomach...not water
et al

Baptism in any of the above fluids is not baptism in water....... per God's commandment.

Water is water. We can't change the Bible.

It is science. Womb water, Amniotic Flyid, is 98% water. It is inhaled and swallowed by the baby during gestation and has everything to do with human development.

The other 2% of Amniotic Fluid is comprised of fetal cells, proteins, elecyrolytes, etc... And it also changes in composition as the baby develops.

Look it up.
Amniotic Fluid ingredients.

Ever heard of a pregnant woman's water breaking?

John 1:12,13 says that being born physically via flesh and blood has no apparent benefit. Being “born of water and Spirit” must be a reference to water baptism and spiritual rebirth.

Another clue is that even Nicodemus was wrong about a man being born a second time from a mother. If being “born of water” is a reference to live birth then that’s only the first birth and couldn’t have any bearing on being “born again” (as in born a second time) as John 3 says.

“Water and Spirit” is definitely not live birth.

Being born via live birth is the first birth and not being "born again." Jesus said being born of water and Spirit is how someone is born again. So live birth, though amniotic flue contains mostly water, is not the "Born again by water" birth John 3 is talking about. Now read John 3 again and see if it makes sense.

John 3:5-7
5Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

Furthermore, if you want to refer to amniotic fluid as water because it is mostly water, then the Bible should confirm that if something is made mostly out of water then, for all intents and purposes, it might as well be called water too. However, the Bible clearly makes distinction between water and things made of mostly water such as the case is with water and blood.

John 19:34
34But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water.

1 John 5:8
8And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

Being born via live birth is the first birth and not being "born again." Jesus said being born of water and Spirit is how someone is born again. So live birth, though amniotic flue contains mostly water, is not the "Born again by water" birth John 3 is talking about. Now read John 3 again and see if it makes sense.

John 3:5-7
5Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

Furthermore, if you want to refer to amniotic fluid as water because it is mostly water, then the Bible should confirm that if something is made mostly out of water then, for all intents and purposes, it might as well be called water too. However, the Bible clearly makes distinction between water and things made of mostly water such as the case is with water and blood.

John 19:34
34But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water.

1 John 5:8
8And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

No one is saying amniotic fluid is the water of being born again.

Jesus spoke to Nicodemus figuratively using earthly things…like being “born.”

A human baby is flesh…it is born by water (amniotic fluid) and flesh.

A child of God is spirit…we are born again by water baptism and Holy Spirit Baptism.

We are saved by the Blood and Body of Jesus Christ.

Amen.

Interestingly, the human body is 3/4th's water.
And as an aside, 3/4th's, three-quarters, of the Earth is covered by water.

i think that's pretty nifty.

No one is saying amniotic fluid is the water of being born again.

Jesus spoke to Nicodemus figuratively using earthly things…like being “born.”

A human baby is flesh…it is born by water (amniotic fluid) and flesh.

A child of God is spirit…we are born again by water baptism and Holy Spirit Baptism.

We are saved by the Blood and Body of Jesus Christ.

You'll notice the emphasis is of water and of spirit to be born again.

Which makes sense when we know we were born of water and spiritually dead the first time.
The reflection upon that birth and the regeneration that occurs when we are saved by faith through the grace of God, not of ourselves so that none may boast, is what then shows us water baptism cannot be salvific.

Therein, we are born again when having been born of water we are born of the Holy Spirit that saved us. By grace through faith. Not of ourselves that none may boast.

It is boasting that says we must be baptized to be saved. Because choosing to be baptized is an act of ourselves not a free irrevocable gift of God as faith and Salvation are.

We are told we are saved by God's grace through faith. Not we are saved by God's grace through faith and baptism.
Not of ourselves.

So you accept that being born of water and Spirit is water baptism and spiritual rebirth? Or do you still think water is something else?

Right I agree the salvation of the soul comes through faith. I believe salvation of the body in the first resurrection comes through water baptism.

1 Corinthians 15:50
Now I say this, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.