What’s Behind America’s Shocking Baby-Formula Shortage?

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

Beckie

Well-known member
Feb 15, 2022
2,516
939
113
#41
Yeah, because we all know unregulated big business always works for the good of the populace.
Never said there should not be regulation . Big business, big unions and big government are all ugly to me.
 

Nehemiah6

Senior Member
Jul 18, 2017
26,074
13,778
113
#42
Yeah, because we all know unregulated big business always works for the good of the populace.
What's worse: supposedly "unregulated big business" (which is a lie since they are all regulated) or government as a criminal enterprise beyond the dreams of the Mafia?
 

Beckie

Well-known member
Feb 15, 2022
2,516
939
113
#43
What's worse: supposedly "unregulated big business" (which is a lie since they are all regulated) or government as a criminal enterprise beyond the dreams of the Mafia?
Sometimes we agree. :)
 

hornetguy

Senior Member
Jan 18, 2016
7,180
1,801
113
#44
And why wouldn't FDA give permission? In fact at this stage of the game the issue of "permission" to manufacture or import baby food should be laughable. It has been a staple for decades.
Were you aware that they found tainted formula? It was contaminated with a rather common form of bacteria, but it was contaminated nonetheless... If I read the reports correctly, there were 4 babies taken ill from the formula, and two of them died.
This apparently prompted the recall of formula until it could be tested and found to be bacteria free.
Once the testing is completed, the plant will be allowed to resume production.
This happens quite frequently, but this is the first time I have heard that it affects formula.

If this had been a widespread contamination, and hundreds, or thousands of babies had died, the outcry would have been "YOU SHOULD HAVE RECALLED YOUR FORMULA!!!! " Lawsuits would bankrupt companies.... it is better to err on the side of caution, which is what happens all the time, in our litigious world.

I personally do not see any kind of "conspiracy" here.... there are plenty of other ones happening, and I don't think we need to try to turn this into one.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
37,488
6,928
113
#45
I personally do not see any kind of "conspiracy" here.... there are plenty of other ones happening, and I don't think we need to try to turn this into one.
 

arthurfleminger

Well-known member
Aug 18, 2021
1,405
780
113
#46
What's worse: supposedly "unregulated big business" (which is a lie since they are all regulated) or government as a criminal enterprise beyond the dreams of the Mafia?
Ain't it funny how all those who make a career in Washington politics, like Gore/Pelosi/Obama end up being multimillionaires a hundred times over, on their meager government salaries. Even the socialist/communist Bernie Sanders has his nose in the trough and is the latest multimillionaire. Lots of money and greed to be found in DC, at taxpayer expense.

Lots of vote buying with govt freebies, the latest is forgiving deadbeat college loan borrowers $thousands$ in debt. Rewarding deadbeats for non payment of obligations. Free stuff for everyone, if you'll vote for me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

arthurfleminger

Well-known member
Aug 18, 2021
1,405
780
113
#47
Who is to blame for Federal/State/Local governments getting so big and powerful that they control every aspect of our lives.....economic/religious/medical/.....etc. The US government was meant to be a government of the people, by the people and for the people. Instead it has become a government of the politicians and those who find favor with the politicians.

Surprisingly, I don't blame government for the power grab. It is only a natural characteristic of all governments to grow in size and power. Who do I blame????????

I blame the citizens of this country!!!!!!!!!! Anytime a problem arises at the country/state/local level, the citizen's first response is that, "THE GOVERNMENT HAS TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS"!!!!!!!!!!! And the citizen's constantly demand new programs/spending/govt power.

We are to blame for the monstrous government we've created. And make a note, once you cede such powers to the government, they are almost impossible to get back. We've put the govt in charge of our lives.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
37,488
6,928
113
#48
Now is the time to find out who the real false prophets were

Two days ago I got a shipment from Joseph's Kitchen. They sent me everything I need (except for eggs) to make bread for a year. It is very simple, there are buckets of wheat berries, they send you a grinder, you put the wheat into the grinder, then pour all the ingredients into a bread maker and it makes the bread for you. I have made two loaves already. The cost to make enough food to feed a family of 3 for a day = $5. So if my paycheck can only buy half the food it used to I will have this to supplement our "daily bread". Thank you Lord. I ordered this shipment a month ago and during that time the cost for the bread has gone up 30% so I have already saved $300.

So yes, inflation is going to go through the roof, to stop that they will raise interest rates through the roof. No one will buy a house or a car on credit, this will cause a massive recession, even a depression. But it will be worse. The problem is not with Lithium or some other component that you can live without. No it is the most basic resources:

Wheat
Fertilizer
Fuel

And then to make things worse we have these supply chain issues. So let's say a ship does arrive at the port with much needed goods. We have a truck driver who would dearly love to make this haul to feed his family and there is even enough diesel for him to drive. Problem is he has a flat tire and it will take 6 months for a new tire to come in.

In some countries they were unable to get fertilizer or pesticide and as a result their last harvest was 50% of what they would have hoped for and as a result of that they are too broke to plant now.

It is a house of cards and they are all collapsing.

We were given a seven year warning concerning this famine and I posted links to that in this blog. Prophecy club, Dana Coverstone, and the two cows with the 7 on them. Go back and search these out on youtube. Many claimed "false prophet" because it didn't happen immediately. It was a warning, you had a chance to prepare. Now you can easily go through and see who the false prophets really were.
 

hornetguy

Senior Member
Jan 18, 2016
7,180
1,801
113
#49
So that's your response? Watch some video?

All I wanted to do was insert some factual information into the discussion of "why" there is a shortage of formula...

shoulda known better.... :rolleyes:
 

JTB

Well-known member
Aug 31, 2021
2,269
737
113
#50
Were you aware that they found tainted formula? It was contaminated with a rather common form of bacteria, but it was contaminated nonetheless... If I read the reports correctly, there were 4 babies taken ill from the formula, and two of them died.
This apparently prompted the recall of formula until it could be tested and found to be bacteria free.
Once the testing is completed, the plant will be allowed to resume production.
This happens quite frequently, but this is the first time I have heard that it affects formula.

If this had been a widespread contamination, and hundreds, or thousands of babies had died, the outcry would have been "YOU SHOULD HAVE RECALLED YOUR FORMULA!!!! " Lawsuits would bankrupt companies.... it is better to err on the side of caution, which is what happens all the time, in our litigious world.

I personally do not see any kind of "conspiracy" here.... there are plenty of other ones happening, and I don't think we need to try to turn this into one.
One "conspiracy" has been the consolidation of companies that produce such things. It used to be there were many companies that made formula, now there are reportedly 4. So if one plant has to shut down it affects the supply to a greater degree. Then there's the 'conspiracy' of mammon worship, companies off-shoring production to obtain lower labor costs (thus producing greater profits). So when China shuts down the world's largest container port, there's no way to get that off-shored production to these shores. Too, it's been said that the particular company in question used their profits to buy back shares instead of maintenance and improvement of the existing facility, which lead to the contamination that shut them down. Both sides are at fault here, the left for unreasonable government regulations, the right by placing profits over ensuring reliable production.

And baby formula is just the tip of the spear. You're gong to see these 'conspiracies' affecting more and more items, and soon.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
37,488
6,928
113
#51
So that's your response? Watch some video?

All I wanted to do was insert some factual information into the discussion of "why" there is a shortage of formula...

shoulda known better.... :rolleyes:
The shortage is not a separate event completely unrelated to everything else. If you want to know why we are having it you have to consider the entire plan. That "video" which you apparently did not watch goes through point by point the entire strategy being employed to bring in one world government which includes the mark of the beast and complete control of the world.
 

Nehemiah6

Senior Member
Jul 18, 2017
26,074
13,778
113
#52
Were you aware that they found tainted formula?
Yes. I was aware of this. And as a former quality control manager in the food industry, the solution was rather simple:
1. Recall all suspected product from store shelves and destroy contaminated batches.
2. Shut down production for a few days (perhaps a week or two, not months and years).
3. Thoroughly and meticulously clean and sanitize all equipment.
4. Ensure that every aspect of the plant is sanitary, including access from outside.
5. Ensure that all workers are following strict handling protocols, and have inspectors on the floor. to see to it
6. Check all raw materials for contamination and discard contaminated batches.
7. When everything is satisfactory begin production again.
10. Properly check fresh product to ensure that there is absolutely no contamination. Then ship it out confidently.

This whole shortage business was staged and manipulated to fulfill the Great Reset agenda (and this is not the only shortage). If you prefer to close your eyes to what is really going on, then you will not see the evil conspiracy to destroy America and Americans. Now Biden is resorting to the Defense Production Act because of his own negligence (which includes all the agencies under him).
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
37,488
6,928
113
#53
Yes. I was aware of this. And as a former quality control manager in the food industry, the solution was rather simple:
1. Recall all suspected product from store shelves and destroy contaminated batches.
2. Shut down production for a few days (perhaps a week or two, not months and years).
3. Thoroughly and meticulously clean and sanitize all equipment.
4. Ensure that every aspect of the plant is sanitary, including access from outside.
5. Ensure that all workers are following strict handling protocols, and have inspectors on the floor. to see to it
6. Check all raw materials for contamination and discard contaminated batches.
7. When everything is satisfactory begin production again.
10. Properly check fresh product to ensure that there is absolutely no contamination. Then ship it out confidently.

This whole shortage business was staged and manipulated to fulfill the Great Reset agenda (and this is not the only shortage). If you prefer to close your eyes to what is really going on, then you will not see the evil conspiracy to destroy America and Americans. Now Biden is resorting to the Defense Production Act because of his own negligence (which includes all the agencies under him).
Agreed. The way they handled the pandemic was not scientific as they claimed, it was designed to help bring in tyranny. They had to make a much bigger deal of it to force people into getting the shots and to justify firing those that didn't. Bankrupt those who would stand against them. Likewise this baby formula will put people into a panic -- critical. When you are in a desperate panic situation you will agree to anything. Hardball negotiations 101, give them an offer they can't refuse.

I don't believe anyone could be as blatantly and brazenly incompetent as these people therefore I feel it is intentional plan. Biden is the perfect puppet, he seems incapable of doing anything sinister. Musk was right, the real president is whoever is in charge of the teleprompter.
 

hornetguy

Senior Member
Jan 18, 2016
7,180
1,801
113
#54
Too, it's been said that the particular company in question used their profits to buy back shares instead of maintenance and improvement of the existing facility, which lead to the contamination that shut them down.
About which company are you referring?
7. When everything is satisfactory begin production again.
I believe I stated that as soon as the FDA says everything is satisfactory, production will resume....
Yes. I was aware of this. And as a former quality control manager in the food industry, the solution was rather simple:
....and, NOTHING is simple when the FDA is involved. You should know that.
 

JTB

Well-known member
Aug 31, 2021
2,269
737
113
#55
About which company are you referring?

I believe I stated that as soon as the FDA says everything is satisfactory, production will resume....

....and, NOTHING is simple when the FDA is involved. You should know that.
Nothing is simple, period.

Nothing is simple with the government

Nothing is simple with corporate afleeceica

Nothing is simple with the demorats

Nothing is simple with the republicons

The only thing that's simple is knowing they all lie and deceive.

What I don't get is the idea that we have to stand with one set of lies in order to oppose the others.
 

hornetguy

Senior Member
Jan 18, 2016
7,180
1,801
113
#56
Nothing is simple, period.

Nothing is simple with the government

Nothing is simple with corporate afleeceica

Nothing is simple with the demorats

Nothing is simple with the republicons

The only thing that's simple is knowing they all lie and deceive.

What I don't get is the idea that we have to stand with one set of lies in order to oppose the others.
Ok, I get it... you don't trust anybody...
But, you should not look for some big conspiracy behind everything that happens....

I used to have a t-shirt that said "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they AREN"T out to get you"....

but, a corollary to that would be "just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that EVERYTHING is a conspiracy".....

Sometimes, "stuff" just happens....
 

hornetguy

Senior Member
Jan 18, 2016
7,180
1,801
113
#57
What I don't get is the idea that we have to stand with one set of lies in order to oppose the others.
So, what solution would you suggest? I mean, realistically...
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
37,488
6,928
113
#58
Sometimes, "stuff" just happens....
A worldwide pandemic was released from a bioweapons lab killing millions -- "stuff happens"
It was funded by NIH and Fauci -- "stuff happens"
Fauci got 20 scientists to write a letter published in Lancet lying about it saying it didn't come from the bioweapons lab -- "stuff happens"
Because of this they instituted a shutdown of the economy and used drop boxes in the 2020 election so they could steal the election -- "stuff happens"
With Biden in control after the stolen election they gave billions of weapons to the Taliban -- "stuff happens"
They are forcing everyone to take a vaccine which doesn't protect you from the virus and is causing a dramatic rise in the death rate -- "stuff happens"

Got it. No conspiracy. -- "stuff happens"
 
K

kaylagrl

Guest
#59
If you go on amazon and switch your home country to Canada, you can get formula.
USA has a shortage. Canada doesn't.

They, the gov't, was going to get some from Canada, but then they will have to pay it back. Bad situation they got into.
 

PennEd

Senior Member
Apr 22, 2013
13,614
9,127
113
#60
We never had a baby formula problem until men could get pregnant!