Do you believe in (OSAS) Once Saved, Always Saved?

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Snacks said:
I’m not understanding your point. Free will means we have the opportunity to make a choice. What am I missing?
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A dog has no choice. A dog is not governed by law or faith, only nature. In a way, a dog is truly blessed because it glorifies God simply by being exactly what it was created to be.

We, on the other hand....
 
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Magenta said:
I would say, agree with God, or not :) I agree with God concerning my state before Him. I agree with Who He says He is is and what He says He has done, and that because of Who He is and what He has done, He is worthy of all praise and honor and glory. I agree that I am lost without Him, that I need Him more than He needs me, and yet He gave the life of His only begotten Son that I may be reconciled to Him :)
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So..... I'm right? :unsure:
Lol :geek:
 
Magenta

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JAPOV said:
So..... I'm right? :unsure:
Lol :geek:
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I forgot to say/add: reconciled by grace through faith in the shed righteous blood of Jesus Christ :D

Who gave His life as an atoning sacrifice that all who believe may attain to life ever after...

Escaping the second death promised to those who reject God...
 
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ResidentAlien said:
I don't know. It was a question which you've responded to with more questions.
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I was seriously looking for an answer. You said: "I don't know." So then, why did you use a term that you don't understand?

I really want to know how some doctrine of Salvation makes one a robot.
 
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ResidentAlien said:
In other words we lose our free will once we're "saved."

Let me ask you this: Once we're "saved," are we free to become an unbeliever or abandon our faith?
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We never lose our free will, that said, you are free to become an unbeliever and abandon the faith, but once you’re sealed with the Holy Spirit there’s no losing your salvation.
 
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awelight said:
I was seriously looking for an answer. You said: "I don't know." So then, why did you use a term that you don't understand?

I really want to know how some doctrine of Salvation makes one a robot.
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Whatever. Not interested in debating you.
 
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Snacks said:
We never lose our free will, that said, you are free to become an unbeliever and abandon the faith, but once you’re sealed with the Holy Spirit there’s no losing your salvation.
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I am having a little trouble following your point. Are you saying that one can change their mind up to the point of being sealed? However, once sealed, they cannot give up the faith? Or that they can give up the faith and still be saved.
 
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Snacks said:
We never lose our free will, that said, you are free to become an unbeliever and abandon the faith, but once you’re sealed with the Holy Spirit there’s no losing your salvation.
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God knew his flock from the foundation of the Earth, and His flock recognizes His voice.

The rest are just "those who roam the Earth"
 
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Definitely have some hardcore
Snacks said:
We never lose our free will, that said, you are free to become an unbeliever and abandon the faith, but once you’re sealed with the Holy Spirit there’s no losing your salvation.
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Wow. So once I'm sealed I'm free to do anything I want. Hey, I like the sound of that. I don't know anyone who wouldn't want some of that.
 
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ResidentAlien said:
Wow. So once I'm sealed I'm free to do anything I want. Hey, I like the sound of that. I don't know anyone who wouldn't want some of that.
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God gives us new desires. Justification is a one-time event. Sanctification is ongoing. Life-long, even :)
 
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Magenta said:
God gives us new desires. Justification is a one-time event. Sanctification is ongoing. Life-long, even :)
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I worry about "those who roam the Earth..." Do they have the mark of Cain?
 
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ResidentAlien said:
Definitely have some hardcore


Wow. So once I'm sealed I'm free to do anything I want. Hey, I like the sound of that. I don't know anyone who wouldn't want some of that.
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You obviously have no understanding of the Holy Scriptures , you are a mocker according to your post above...
Do you not fear God ?...The words you speak will be put before you when you see Him face to face...You are in danger of mocking the Holy Spirit...
 
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ResidentAlien said:
So we're all a bunch of robots then?
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When the robot thing gets thrown around i think would i want to be a robot for God or for sin... Thinking about how sin traps folks there is much freedom in Christ . Which do i want to be my master? A bit out of context but it still fits ..

Mat 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

Luk_11:23 He that is not with me is against me: and he that gathereth not with me scattereth.
 
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Beckie said:
When the robot thing gets thrown around i think would i want to be a robot for God or for sin... Thinking about how sin traps folks there is much freedom in Christ . Which do i want to be my master? A bit out of context but it still fits ..

Mat 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

Luk_11:23 He that is not with me is against me: and he that gathereth not with me scattereth.
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It may have been out of context but I got your point.
 
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JAPOV said:
I worry about "those who roam the Earth..." Do they have the mark of Cain?
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My point is, I'm not so sure EVERYONE can be BAPTIZED IN THE SPIRIT...:unsure:
 
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