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Magenta

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#21

Deuteronomy 30:6~ The LORD your God will circumcise your hearts and the hearts of your descendants, so that you may love Him with all your heart and with all your soul, and live.
 

2ndTimothyGroup

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#22
It is utterly impossible to be a True Christian until the heart has been Circumcised by Christ. It must be done, otherwise, the Curse of the Lord remains and Eternal Life cannot be granted. Folks better get this figured out pronto and stop messing around with their false gospel that suits their unregenerated hearts.

Below, note what is required to be "complete in Christ." This is not up for debate:

Colossians 2:9-15 NLT - "For in Christ lives all the fullness of God in a human body. 10 So you also are complete through your union with Christ, who is the head over every ruler and authority. 11 When you came to Christ, you were "circumcised," but not by a physical procedure. Christ performed a spiritual circumcision--the cutting away of your sinful nature. 12 For you were buried with Christ when you were baptized. And with him you were raised to new life because you trusted the mighty power of God, who raised Christ from the dead. 13 You were dead because of your sins and because your sinful nature was not yet cut away. Then God made you alive with Christ, for he forgave all our sins. 14 He canceled the record of the charges against us and took it away by nailing it to the cross. 15 In this way, he disarmed the spiritual rulers and authorities. He shamed them publicly by his victory over them on the cross."

Stop denying this Truth so that you can continue in flagrant disobedience, enjoying the lusts of the "flesh" (which is what it means to possess the Devil as your Spiritual Father . . . to do his will).

2 Timothy 2:26 CSB - "Then they may come to their senses and escape the trap of the devil, who has taken them captive to do his will."
 

Pilgrimshope

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#23
This is cut from the end of my poast
God does not pull your heart out of you and give you a new one. A "new heart" and a "new spirit" are one and the same; that is, a renewed one; renewed by the Spirit and grace of God; in which a new principle of life is put; new light is infused; a new will, filled with new purposes and resolutions; where new affections are placed, and new desires are formed; and where there are new delights and joys, as well as new sorrows and troubles; the same which in the New Testament is called the "new man". That new man, that new spirit, that new heart, they are all one in the same.

I started this thread with the hoe of stearing up peoples hearts and minds. I was hopping to get them looking at their own lives, their own church, their own teaching. I pray that this will happen as more people join in.
yes right I agree I think what I’m saying is he’s expressing a message about what Jesus does in renewing us in our mind and our heart if we believe the gospel

in doing so throw is the result

“And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.”
‭‭Ezekiel‬ ‭36:27‬ ‭KJV‬‬

if we hear Jesus preaching we’ll eventually hear things like this , which changes our understanding and brings us to repentance through belief it’s about like your saying changing us transforming us through believing the gospel

I enjoyed the read of your post and agree with what your saying

“And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭6:46‬ ‭

you see this makes us grow from “ just confess he is lord “ into actually understanding he is our lord and we’re meant to learn from and follow after his ways
it’s a process there are those who aren’t there yet
 
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pottersclay

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What is a christian?

A outward action of a inner transformation.

Its not who you beleive in but rather who you serve.
No ne can tell who you beleive in by looking at you. Its what you do that draws attention of others.
I know many who beleive in God and Jesus but unless you ask you would never know.
The actions of a Christ Jesus believer is whats needed. It is the witness of your faith.
And dont bother me with the works for salvation nonsense. Just to start another endless thread.
Lets get real here. I dont care who you profess ....show me.
 

Thewatchman

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#25
yes right I agree I think what I’m saying is he’s expressing a message about what Jesus does in renewing us in our mind and our heart if we believe the gospel

in doing so throw is the result

“And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.”
‭‭Ezekiel‬ ‭36:27‬ ‭KJV‬‬

if we hear Jesus preaching we’ll eventually hear things like this , which changes our understanding and brings us to repentance through belief it’s about like your saying changing us transforming us through believing the gospel

I enjoyed the read of your post and agree with what your saying

“And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭6:46‬ ‭

you see this makes us grow from “ just confess he is lord “ into actually understanding he is our lord and we’re meant to learn from and follow after his ways
it’s a process there are those who aren’t there yet
Thank you for clearing that up. This is what I am looking for a good exchange of ideas and finding common ground.
 

Thewatchman

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#26
It is utterly impossible to be a True Christian until the heart has been Circumcised by Christ. It must be done, otherwise, the Curse of the Lord remains and Eternal Life cannot be granted. Folks better get this figured out pronto and stop messing around with their false gospel that suits their unregenerated hearts.

Below, note what is required to be "complete in Christ." This is not up for debate:

Colossians 2:9-15 NLT - "For in Christ lives all the fullness of God in a human body. 10 So you also are complete through your union with Christ, who is the head over every ruler and authority. 11 When you came to Christ, you were "circumcised," but not by a physical procedure. Christ performed a spiritual circumcision--the cutting away of your sinful nature. 12 For you were buried with Christ when you were baptized. And with him you were raised to new life because you trusted the mighty power of God, who raised Christ from the dead. 13 You were dead because of your sins and because your sinful nature was not yet cut away. Then God made you alive with Christ, for he forgave all our sins. 14 He canceled the record of the charges against us and took it away by nailing it to the cross. 15 In this way, he disarmed the spiritual rulers and authorities. He shamed them publicly by his victory over them on the cross."

Stop denying this Truth so that you can continue in flagrant disobedience, enjoying the lusts of the "flesh" (which is what it means to possess the Devil as your Spiritual Father . . . to do his will).

2 Timothy 2:26 CSB - "Then they may come to their senses and escape the trap of the devil, who has taken them captive to do his will."
You are right you must be circumcised of heart and have the Seal of God in your forehead.



Revelation 9 Verse 1

New International Version
The fifth angel sounded his trumpet, and I saw a star that had fallen from the sky to the earth. The star was given the key to the shaft of the Abyss.
English Standard Version
And the fifth angel blew his trumpet, and I saw a star fallen from heaven to earth, and he was given the key to the shaft of the bottomless pit.
Berean Study Bible
Then the fifth angel sounded his trumpet, and I saw a star that had fallen from heaven to earth, and it was given the key to the pit of the Abyss.


King James Bible
And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.


Verse 2

New International Version
When he opened the Abyss, smoke rose from it like the smoke from a gigantic furnace. The sun and sky were darkened by the smoke from the Abyss.


English Standard Version
He opened the shaft of the bottomless pit, and from the shaft rose smoke like the smoke of a great furnace, and the sun and the air were darkened with the smoke from the shaft.

Berean Study Bible
The star opened the pit of the Abyss, and smoke rose out of it like the smoke of a great furnace, and the sun and the air were darkened by the smoke from the pit.



King James Bible
And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.


Verse 3



New International Version
And out of the smoke locusts came down on the earth and were given power like that of scorpions of the earth.

English Standard Version
Then from the smoke came locusts on the earth, and they were given power like the power of scorpions of the earth.

Berean Study Bible
And out of the smoke, locusts descended on the earth, and they were given power like that of the scorpions of the earth.

King James Bible
And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.



Verse 4.



New International Version
They were told not to harm the grass of the earth or any plant or tree, but only those people who did not have the seal of God on their foreheads.

English Standard Version
They were told not to harm the grass of the earth or any green plant or any tree, but only those people who do not have the seal of God on their foreheads.

Berean Study Bible
They were told not to harm the grass of the earth or any plant or tree, but only those who did not have the seal of God on their foreheads.

King James Bible
And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.

Do Not over look this last verse for it is very important notice the only they can hurt is those men (on gender here) who do not have the Seal of God IN their foreheads. Stop and thank just what is in (inside, behind) your forehead? It is your brain your gray matter these men do not have the seal of God; So what is the seal of God? It is the knowledge that Jesus spoke of in Matthew 24, Mark 13, Luke 21, Paul spoke of it in 2nd Thessalonians . It is when the desolation of abomination stands in the temple and proclaims to be God. It is understanding just who comes at the 6th trump, the 6th seal and the 6th vial . Having the knowledge to stand against him. It is Satan and understanding his mark. It will not be a tattoo of 666. It is the work of your hands and the knowledge in your mind that Satan shows up just before Jesus. Satan comes at the 6th trump, seal, and vial; 666. Jesus returns at the 7th trump, seal and vial; 777.
 

Thewatchman

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#28
You do not thank we are in the end times? We are living in the gereration of the fig tree the last generation.