Roe vs WADE is : GONE......

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joecoten

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But is it illegal to use it in defense of the Republic? Where are the Special Forces trained to deal with domestic enemies?
I basically live in a dictatorship. The police do what Trudeau tells them to do. The military has to accommodate the Chinese army. We are not America.
 

Nehemiah6

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How many children will now grow up in poverty?How many will now grow up in sickness? How many will now grow up unloved? How many will be gunned down in school or at the market? How many will abort their own lives (suicide) because of these conditions?
You know what? In America and Canada at least, these conditions have been deliberately created by politicians (both Left and Right) because politicians love creating problems and hate solutions. Not a single child needs to grow up in poverty, or face sickness, or being gunned down.

For example, the politicians deliberately avoided addressing the school safety and security issue for FIFTY YEARS (at all levels, municipal, state, and federal). Why? they love mass shootings, so that they can take way the guns of law-abiding citizens, and hand them to criminals. Operation Fast and Furious is a classic example, but the FBI and DOJ today are criminal organizations, going after innocent, law-abiding citizens, and handing real criminals a free pass. Even the Sicilian Mafia had a code of honor, but these people are despicable.
 

Genipher

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I like @JTB . He makes good points.
‘I also don’t know why abortion is such a thing in America.
‘In Greece which is a Christian state, abortion is legal with some restrictions of course. But it’s allowed.
Just because other countries allow it doesn't make it morally right.
 

iamsoandso

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Then again there's title IV-D https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/child-support/who-we-are/title-iv-d-and-child-support-texas Don't get me wrong though I don't agree with abortion either but for instance(for every action there is an equil and opposite reaction),,, Texas gets about 60 million a year from IV-D from the federal Government that they aren't gonna get anymore. In other words a whole lot of babies are about to be born to parents who are about to be put into work programs or somthing simular to provide support for those babies. Anyway at this point everyone who has children at the age where they are experiencing the whole reproductive aspect should really have a discussion about weather or not they can financially father or mother an child,,and why is that not only was Roe verses Wade just overturned it's Federal funding also was... so each state will no longer qualify for IV-D and they will eventually restructure their laws in accordance...
 

JTB

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The twists and turns of a liberal . :)
I'm not a liberal.

I just happen to see the lies on BOTH sides.

Liberals are a godless horde who are deceiving the world and leading it away from God.

And I assume we all agree on that.

Here's where we differ:

I see that conservatives are deceiving believers, and using God's Name to draw them away from God.

Sadly, too many don't see that, and follow these false prophets.

But that's the nature of deception, to make sure the deceived don't see.

No, we should not abort our unborn. Again, I think we agree.

But no, we should not turn our backs on them the moment they are born.

And if you don't think your Republican overlords are doing that

Well, that's the point of deception, to make sure the deceived don't see.
 
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Then again there's title IV-D https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/child-support/who-we-are/title-iv-d-and-child-support-texas Don't get me wrong though I don't agree with abortion either but for instance(for every action there is an equil and opposite reaction),,, Texas gets about 60 million a year from IV-D from the federal Government that they aren't gonna get anymore. In other words a whole lot of babies are about to be born to parents who are about to be put into work programs or somthing simular to provide support for those babies. Anyway at this point everyone who has children at the age where they are experiencing the whole reproductive aspect should really have a discussion about weather or not they can financially father or mother an child,,and why is that not only was Roe verses Wade just overturned it's Federal funding also was... so each state will no longer qualify for IV-D and they will eventually restructure their laws in accordance...
Maybe the federal governemnt will start paying states for not having abortions? Shouldn't it work both ways?
 

iamsoandso

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Maybe the federal governemnt will start paying states for not having abortions? Shouldn't it work both ways?

Well no SCOTUS just ruled that they Don;t have anything to do with it and put it in each states hands...
 
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kaylagrl

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No, we should not abort our unborn. Again, I think we agree.

But no, we should not turn our backs on them the moment they are born.
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I don't care what you are, but your talking points are 100% liberal. No one turns their back on anyone once they are born. That's a false talking point used by pro- choicers. In fact most of your points are liberal talking points, then you say people here can't see they are deceived. Pot, the kettle is the corner, I believe you've met.



 
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kaylagrl

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I like @JTB . He makes good points.
‘I also don’t know why abortion is such a thing in America.
‘In Greece which is a Christian state, abortion is legal with some restrictions of course. But it’s allowed.

He uses liberal talking points. In this instance they aren't good points. You don't know abortion is such a thing, well let me enlighten you. 63 million children have been aborted in the US, life ended, don't see the light of day. That's the population of Canada. Ever seen an abortion preformed? Google it. Ever see what's left when the abortion is done? So don't give me any of this :poop: about what's the big deal with abortions, or they may grow up poor or sad. If you, as a Christian can't look at this picture and flat out say "this is a sin against God and humanity, no if's ands or buts, there is something wrong with you. If you don't see this as murder, you need your head examined. This is a #SilentHolocaust there is no other name for it. Period.

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63 million children have been aborted in the US, life ended,
don't see the light of day. That's the population of Canada.
Canada's population is under 40 million, so the number of aborted is greater than the population of Canada.
 

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He uses liberal talking points. In this instance they aren't good points. You don't know abortion is such a thing, well let me enlighten you. 63 million children have been aborted in the US, life ended, don't see the light of day. That's the population of Canada. Ever seen an abortion preformed? Google it. Ever see what's left when the abortion is done? So don't give me any of this :poop: about what's the big deal with abortions, or they may grow up poor or sad. If you, as a Christian can't look at this picture and flat out say "this is a sin against God and humanity, no if's ands or buts, there is something wrong with you. If you don't see this as murder, you need your head examined. This is a #SilentHolocaust there is no other name for it. Period.

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Kayla, this is a personal and difficult topic.
On a personal level I don’t support it but I dont want to push my views on others because I Know there are other instances where abortion would be in the picture and considered depending on the situation … which ultmatley remains a personal decision for the mother and the family.
But to be turned into a frenzy political talking point is what I don’t get. And that’s where @JTB talking points are valid because this is a political argument not a logical one.
 

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Only 150k? That's a pretty poor effort, considering what was done with Biden's votes. Tell those Democrats to redouble their efforts. I'm sure they'll be able to whip up another 30 or 50 million.
 
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kaylagrl

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Kayla, this is a personal and difficult topic.
On a personal level I don’t support it but I dont want to push my views on others because I Know there are other instances where abortion would be in the picture and considered depending on the situation … which ultmatley remains a personal decision for the mother and the family.
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No, abortion is wrong and it is a sin. It's a baby, not a choice and every Christian ought to stand behind that. Every abortion takes an innocent life. I'm not trying to be rude, there are things we cannot give ground on as Christians, this is one of them. Abortion is being used as birth control. 63 million, 20 million of which are black babies. This is an issue I won't shift gears on, abortion is murder, it's wrong.
 

JohnDB

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Currently in America almost half of all live births (the babies not aborted) medical bills and food is paid for by the government...Not by insurance policies or fathers. Later the children are fed by government school lunch programs.

Half of all families in America are the single parent family. Be it fathers or mothers raising children alone.

We know that the leading cause of poverty is single parenting. And the government is promoting this by subsidizing single parent families.

Welfare (including Medicare, Medicare, Social security, school lunch, WIC, and etc) compromises over 80% of the Government budget expenses. Meaning that tax rates would plummet if we didn't spend so much on Welfare.

The government....elected by the people...has created a ponzi scheme that has to end one day with a tremendous crash.
 
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joecoten

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We need a greater awakening, a move of God that promotes His kingdom, not ours!
 

HeIsHere

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But no, we should not turn our backs on them the moment they are born.

And if you don't think your Republican overlords are doing that

Have you ever considered that churches especially Catholic churches, the Salvation Army and others have often been at the forefront of providing assistance to unwed mothers and their babies and these agencies are better managed than the government run agencies.

I think the social ills of today and the building of the welfare state rests firmly upon the policies of the Democrats.
If you do the research you will find that conservatives have donated far more to charities than liberals.