Who is a Jew?
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I appreciate your concern for the academic. I am concerned about the direct and immediate usefulness of your lesson.
Your lesson concluded that Jesus would restore Israel, no need for work from us. I won't disagree.
But I will add.
Satan will conquer Israel, multiple times, and that should get no work from us.
Your lesson concluded that Jesus would restore Israel, no need for work from us. I won't disagree.
But I will add.
Satan will conquer Israel, multiple times, and that should get no work from us.
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Israel was the nation born in a day. God is and will bring back Jews from all over the world. That's in His Word, I didn't write that. Are you saying Hitler murdered 6 million imposters? Fakes? The Bible says the desert will flourish again. Look at pics of Israel before 48 and today. Clearly He is keeping His promise to the Jew. Other than conspiracy theorists I've never heard anyone deny the Jewish race exists.
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Here is my take on the subject. Keep in mind others may have already used these verses. I have not yet read the comments.
Tracing your heritage is irrelevant.
1Ti_1:4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.
As to who is a Jew:
Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
Rom 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
Who is Abraham's Seed?
Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Who is the elect?
Rom 11:7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded
Congratulations! You are a Jew.
I hope this helps.
Tracing your heritage is irrelevant.
1Ti_1:4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.
As to who is a Jew:
Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
Rom 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
Who is Abraham's Seed?
Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Who is the elect?
Rom 11:7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded
Congratulations! You are a Jew.
I hope this helps.
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While this is true, the Abrahamic Covenant included many others as "Abraham's seed" also. So (1) all believers are Abraham's "seed" and (2) the twelve tribes of Israel in redeemed and restored Israel will also be "Abraham's seed". Paul was focused on Christ as the seed of of Abraham but then he also said "if ye be in Christ".
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Here is why I think that....
Rom 11:7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded
According to how I read it Isreal is not the Election.
I had a good teacher, whom many hate, but he gives the verses and he is right. Thanks for your comment.
Rom 11:7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded
According to how I read it Isreal is not the Election.
I had a good teacher, whom many hate, but he gives the verses and he is right. Thanks for your comment.
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According to the Law, one gets land in Israel by blood-line. Are you saying anyone of those 6 million, or however many are living in Israel now, have a bloodline?
So your question is based on the premise you can't prove in the first place.
You're covering an obvious failure of logic in the claims of the people who you say Hitler was after, by getting me into an emotional condition over a war that happened before I was born.
Are they related to Jacob, and if they cannot prove this relation, they are not jews by their own arguments.
So yeah, I'm saying that unless you can find a verse that proves this current group actually is the Israel that God wants, they may well be fakes.
And since you don't seem to have any way to check otherwise, other than emotional claims to history...
So your question is based on the premise you can't prove in the first place.
You're covering an obvious failure of logic in the claims of the people who you say Hitler was after, by getting me into an emotional condition over a war that happened before I was born.
Are they related to Jacob, and if they cannot prove this relation, they are not jews by their own arguments.
So yeah, I'm saying that unless you can find a verse that proves this current group actually is the Israel that God wants, they may well be fakes.
And since you don't seem to have any way to check otherwise, other than emotional claims to history...
I don't have to, since the question is to those claiming they match this. I don't need to debate IF God is capable.
I want to know how I am going to know what God thinks is that group?
Right now, I have a group of people who claim Moses, but don't follow the Law. Claim Jew but can't show a Lineage to Jacob. Claim a place for Moses, but can't prove a Levite to undertake the deeds Moses requires. These Disqualify under The LAW.
Then I get into my faith, which says that only Jesus is the truth. And now, I have a group of people whose core doctrine says Jesus is boiling in Hell for being an Idolator. So I'm pretty sure THIS disqualifies them as following God.
And while it IS possible for God to move even a blinded nation anywhere he wants, How Can I Know Who Is A Jew???
I want to know how I am going to know what God thinks is that group?
Right now, I have a group of people who claim Moses, but don't follow the Law. Claim Jew but can't show a Lineage to Jacob. Claim a place for Moses, but can't prove a Levite to undertake the deeds Moses requires. These Disqualify under The LAW.
Then I get into my faith, which says that only Jesus is the truth. And now, I have a group of people whose core doctrine says Jesus is boiling in Hell for being an Idolator. So I'm pretty sure THIS disqualifies them as following God.
And while it IS possible for God to move even a blinded nation anywhere he wants, How Can I Know Who Is A Jew???
K
No, you are the one saying that 6 million fake Jews were murdered in the Holocaust. It happened before I was born also, what has that to do with the price of tea in China? Yes, you should be emotional when innocent people are murdered, if you sit and listen to testimony of those who survived the Holocaust and you aren't moved and emotional something is wrong with you. This should be in the conspiracy theory forum.
They are not fakes, you're talking foolishness, no one denies the Jews are Jews but conspiracy theorists or those that are anti-Semitic. 6 million innocent Jews were murdered in the Holocaust, son, those are the facts!!
They are not fakes, you're talking foolishness, no one denies the Jews are Jews but conspiracy theorists or those that are anti-Semitic. 6 million innocent Jews were murdered in the Holocaust, son, those are the facts!!
lol Ok, look. I'm not here to discuss your concerns about WW2. If that's your reasoning for everything you do, then we're on two different pages.
I'm here to seek Truth in Jesus, and to help the Church, as I can, identify itself, and the lies of Satan in it.
If you want to continue to take me back to a story that YOU find important, that isn't Biblical, perhaps you need to take it to Politics.
I'm asking about Jews.
I got people Claiming Jew who have no blood line to Jacob they can prove.
I got people Claiming Jew who do not follow the Law of Moses.
I got people Claiming Jew who for nobody available to prove a bloodline cannot follow the Law of Moses EVEN IF THEY WANT TO.
And I got people Claiming Jew, who after all this inability to be Jew, are claiming Land for the sake of their claim to Jew.
Now, as Christian, I know that God does not bless those who refuse Jesus. In fact, Refusing Jesus is ANTICHRIST SPIRIT.
Who is a Jew?
I'm here to seek Truth in Jesus, and to help the Church, as I can, identify itself, and the lies of Satan in it.
If you want to continue to take me back to a story that YOU find important, that isn't Biblical, perhaps you need to take it to Politics.
I'm asking about Jews.
I got people Claiming Jew who have no blood line to Jacob they can prove.
I got people Claiming Jew who do not follow the Law of Moses.
I got people Claiming Jew who for nobody available to prove a bloodline cannot follow the Law of Moses EVEN IF THEY WANT TO.
And I got people Claiming Jew, who after all this inability to be Jew, are claiming Land for the sake of their claim to Jew.
Now, as Christian, I know that God does not bless those who refuse Jesus. In fact, Refusing Jesus is ANTICHRIST SPIRIT.
Who is a Jew?
You can not begin to imagine how overjoyed I am you responded with that chapter, Romans 11. Did you even read it?
Notice these verses:
Rom 11:7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded
Rom 11:8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear
unto this day.
If that does not tell you enough, try this:
Rev_3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
Now who uses synagogues? Not Christians.
Try this:
1Jn_2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jn_4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2Jn_1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
After reading that you think the United Nations didn't put people kicked out of most countries for persecution of Christians and predatory lending practices?????
How about their "Star of David"?
Act 7:43 Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.
Amo 5:26 But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images, the star of your god, which ye made to yourselves.
Amo 5:27 Therefore will I cause you to go into captivity beyond Damascus, saith the LORD, whose name is The God of hosts.
Remphan is Moloch, who is Baal (Satan)
Getting the picture yet?
Notice these verses:
Rom 11:7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded
Rom 11:8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear
unto this day.If that does not tell you enough, try this:
Rev_3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
Now who uses synagogues? Not Christians.
Try this:
1Jn_2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jn_4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2Jn_1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
After reading that you think the United Nations didn't put people kicked out of most countries for persecution of Christians and predatory lending practices?????
How about their "Star of David"?
Act 7:43 Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.
Amo 5:26 But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images, the star of your god, which ye made to yourselves.
Amo 5:27 Therefore will I cause you to go into captivity beyond Damascus, saith the LORD, whose name is The God of hosts.
Remphan is Moloch, who is Baal (Satan)
Getting the picture yet?