The Bible doesn’t define death as separation from God. Rather sun separates someone from God in the sense He won’t hear them nor pay attention to them, but it isn’t permanent. God will come close again if they repent.
Isaiah 59:1,2
1Behold, the LORD'S hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear:
2But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.
agreed. This is post-resurrection destruction of the soul and body via the lake of fire.
I honestly think you’re defining death incorrectly since death isn’t a separation from God. Death is actually just death. Sin is temporary separation from God. Were Adam and Eve eternally separated from God they day they died spiritually? Was David separated from God forever when he sinned? No, God still helped them.
That passage doesn’t say the torment is eternal.
The story of the rich man and Lazarus is a parable and it doesn’t say the torment lasts forever.
They are not immortal for only those saved by Christ can be immortal.
It says the smoke rises forever. In Isaiah 34:10 Edom, a place on Earth, is said to be burning forever and that it has smoke rising forever, but it’s not still burning and smoking. This is called apocalyptic language and it’s meant to be dramatic, not literal in this case.
“No rest day or night” does not presuppose eternity. Literally that means for one day and one night they won’t rest. There is pain involved in the second death, but it isn’t eternal.
I am not saying there is a second chance post-judgement is the wicked. They’ll be put to death, destroyed soul and body, just like the Bible says. They won’t be conscious living forever in torment.
Isaiah 59:1,2
1Behold, the LORD'S hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear:
2But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.
agreed. This is post-resurrection destruction of the soul and body via the lake of fire.
I honestly think you’re defining death incorrectly since death isn’t a separation from God. Death is actually just death. Sin is temporary separation from God. Were Adam and Eve eternally separated from God they day they died spiritually? Was David separated from God forever when he sinned? No, God still helped them.
That passage doesn’t say the torment is eternal.
The story of the rich man and Lazarus is a parable and it doesn’t say the torment lasts forever.
They are not immortal for only those saved by Christ can be immortal.
It says the smoke rises forever. In Isaiah 34:10 Edom, a place on Earth, is said to be burning forever and that it has smoke rising forever, but it’s not still burning and smoking. This is called apocalyptic language and it’s meant to be dramatic, not literal in this case.
“No rest day or night” does not presuppose eternity. Literally that means for one day and one night they won’t rest. There is pain involved in the second death, but it isn’t eternal.
I am not saying there is a second chance post-judgement is the wicked. They’ll be put to death, destroyed soul and body, just like the Bible says. They won’t be conscious living forever in torment.
