Who is a Jew?

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Grandpa said:
Its even more convenient to claim the truth of Scripture isn't really Truth so you can keep on wishing your false philosophy will be true.

Scripture is supposed to change your point of view. Your point of view is NOT supposed to change scripture.
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Romans 11:28 As to the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but as to the election they are beloved for the fathers’ sakes:

let me see you change that!
 
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Grandpa said:
If by replacement theory you mean ALL of Israels blessing and promises are in Christ, then it is quite sad that so few actually understand their own bibles.
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Romans 11:28 As to the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but as to the election they are beloved for the fathers’ sakes:

where's the REPLACEMENT in that?
 
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RichGladden said:
You are wicked and I have exposed you as your shadows! You know not God and have not His Holy Spirit and that is why your understanding is as minimal as is your tact.
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To my offer to start again and have peace, his response,

I do not align myself with Satan's agents. You are evil! And it is too late!

If that's a Christlike spirit... smh

I really don't know what is wrong with you, I hope you get help for whatever it is. You call everyone evil and satan, yet when the hand of peace is offered you refuse outright. I won't call you an agent of satan or evil, that is up to God to judge. I will say you are greatly disturbed and have very little understanding of what being a Christian and Christlike means.

You all are witnesses, I tried.
 
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What we can all agree on is that we have differing views on what Paul means in Romans 9 thru 11. Christians have have been debating this from the earliest times and will long after we are gone (scholars and theologians from differing schools of thought).

It's good to have debate but we can
hopefully be charitable to each other in doing so. (something I keep teaching myself).

Our views on Romans 9 - 11 hardly determine our position in Christ. Not that the teaching is not important but we need to put it in perspective.

Dispensational premillenials, historic premillenials, amillenialists and post millenialists are all brothers and sisters in Christ.
 
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phil36 said:
What we can all agree on is that we have differing views on what Paul means in Romans 9 thru 11. Christians have have been debating this from the earliest times and will long after we are gone (scholars and theologians from differing schools of thought).

It's good to have debate but we can
hopefully be charitable to each other in doing so. (something I keep teaching myself).

Our views on Romans 9 - 11 hardly determine our position in Christ. Not that the teaching is not important but we need to put it in perspective.

Dispensational premillenials, historic premillenials, amillenialists and post millenialists are all brothers and sisters in Christ.
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once Saul became Paul and began his ministry, the Book of Acts reveals how evil the Jews were to Paul. which is amazing the kindness Paul extends towards them in Romans 11. of course, he was led by GOD to say those nice things and he did exactly that. it's why i stepped away from Denominational and Doctrinal views from both sides and looked up what the Scholars and Theologians had to say. for the most part, they are Baptist, and still claim the Jews will be somehow converted into Christ. i see no reason to disagree.
 
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The_Watchers_2017 said:
once Saul became Paul and began his ministry, the Book of Acts reveals how evil the Jews were to Paul. which is amazing the kindness Paul extends towards them in Romans 11. of course, he was led by GOD to say those nice things and he did exactly that. it's why i stepped away from Denominational and Doctrinal views from both sides and looked up what the Scholars and Theologians had to say. for the most part, they are Baptist, and still claim the Jews will be somehow converted into Christ. i see no reason to disagree.
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You are a fraud and are exposed! Xposed.jpg
 
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Grandpa said:
Galatians 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

What do you do about this one?
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That verse applies to all believers regardless of their ethnic background. There is only one body... (Eph. 4:4-6)
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The_Watchers_2017 said:
Baptist Theologian John Piper

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I like John piper. I have listened to him many times and read I think three of his books. And yet, I would disagree with his historic premillenial views.

I like listening to John Macarthur who is a dispensational isn't, yet I would disagree with his dispensational theology.

Both these guys I would say are great faithful biblical teachers. I disagree with their different premillenial views.
 
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phil36 said:
I like John piper. I have listened to him many times and read I think three of his books. And yet, I would disagree with his historic premillenial views.

I like listening to John Macarthur who is a dispensational isn't, yet I would disagree with his dispensational theology.

Both these guys I would say are great faithful biblical teachers. I disagree with their different premillenial views.
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Agreed!
Great observation!
 
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RichGladden said:
You are wicked and I have exposed you as your shadows! You know not God and have not His Holy Spirit and that is why your understanding is as minimal as is your tact.
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This is the type of accusation and name calling that gets one banned.


I would recommend an honest, heartfelt apology.
 
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apwall21 said:
According to the Law of Moses, a Jew is one whose mother is a descendent of one of the twelve Tribes of Israel, and who is circumcised on the 8th day, and is a follower of the law. If anyone contends with this I will listen (*and likely argue, if you don't know me by now).

There are millions of people who claim to be Jews, and they claim this based on the traditions of their families, and, what I would call a tangential relationship with, the law of Moses. There are millions of "Jews" who are living in Israel based on a claim to Israel existing "for Jews."

But here is the sticking point I find in our day. By the definition of the Law of Moses, to be a Jew by blood, I need to be able to track a bloodline, on my mother's side, to Jacob. But at this date, it is unclear if anyone on earth who claims "Jew" can actually trace ancestry that far.

Now, as for problems from this discovery:

Religiously, this brings the question of who gets the blessings and responsibilities of carrying out the law? Since "the Jew" is known by Moses's Pentateuch, clearly he is seeking to sacrifice at the alter when he sins,but he needs a Levite to do this, meaning someone must be able to trace a bloodline to Levi.
Politically, this would, logically, also infer that at some point, God decided to change his criteria for who gets to claim "His" land in Israel.

Both of these bring more questions, and I find few answers.
More troubling, the Gospels and subsequent instructional letters, seem to infer that the Christian is now Israel, meaning that Jerusalem is actually the home of every Church on earth.
Does this mean we should seek to move to Israel and make it ours? To which tribe would we claim blood line?
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in Christ those who’ve been baptized into him , there are no such thing as Jews Nor gentiles Those were labels from the old order of flesh and blood before we came to Christ in truth

“For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:27-28‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The term “jew “ is a reference to when God had chosen only one nation of people and excluded the gentile nations from covenant relationship with the him

it is a separatist term seperation Israelites from All other nationality of people. It is based completely on mankind’s transgression and the whole concept of God favoring someone because they are a certain heritage or bloodline has been abolished and removed

now all that matters is of the person of any nation accepts Christ and his gospel
 
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