Book of Job

Starts out telling us Job was upright. I don't think of myself as upright or wealthy like Job but for some reason the Book of Job has probably caught my attention more than any other part of the Bible. Do we gravitate toward certain parts of the Bible for a reason or is it that some parts are geared for beginners or something like that. I started reading the bible about 2018. I did read some of it in 1971 or 1972 (KJV).

“though these three men, Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, they should deliver but their own souls by their righteousness, saith the Lord GOD.”
‭‭Ezekiel‬ ‭14:14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

job is a powerful book it is very deep waters but powerful it’s also complex because long parts of it are actually explaining the wrong. Thing

what I mean is jobs friends give long speeches but they are wrong in thoer conclusions

it’s one of those books we can’t take each verse the same job is saying some things , his friends are saying some things incorrectly and then God is saying some things

if you look only at the dealings of job , elihu the young man who isn’t wrong and Gods responses to job

it is a little easier to follow the message coming forth from it and lessons we can learn about God


I do think as we read scripture certain things will draw more attention from
One person than another and then the other person will notice other things

we are all at different points d need to learn dofferent things at a given time one persons struggling in one area another in another different area Gods word is able to reach us all at the points we really have need to be taught truth and strengthened in faith

also it works to bring us together to share the word so we come to a better more complete understanding , this is something we can benefit one another in because no one knows it all by design we want to come together and grow allowing everyone to speak d the othere to consider

we hold onto the good and let the bad pass through

we helpmone another grow in faith and verity encourage one a tower with the thkngs we have learned and accept also the encouragement and edification of what they have learned and share

we are like one body hands have thoer finction ears thiers nose has its finction feet thiers , the heart has its finction , the brain ect

“And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; for the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

but speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ: from whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭4:11-13, 15-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬


We need one another

Thanks much Pilgrimshope. I can hardly believe how incredible it is to read God's Word and how. I know that a lot of people have used the almost exclusively the KJV but I don't remember getting much out of it when I read some of it back in the 70's. I usually read the NLT. I wonder if towards the end of Job, Ch.38 where "The Lord answered him out of the whirlwind", might not be referring to a state of mind. Some nights in the past couple years I would get something in my mind about the Bible and couldn't sleep and I would have to get up and look things up. Kind of a whirlwind in my head. Go figure.

Starts out telling us Job was upright. I don't think of myself as upright or wealthy like Job but for some reason the Book of Job has probably caught my attention more than any other part of the Bible. Do we gravitate toward certain parts of the Bible for a reason or is it that some parts are geared for beginners or something like that. I started reading the bible about 2018. I did read some of it in 1971 or 1972 (KJV).

amen brother each of us should find the version that we can best understand and benefit from

I had a Bible I loved years ago it was in the early 1980s it was the original niv “new international version “ even today I still study that one also I’ve found often when you compare different versions it’s actually a benefit

but I’m not a person who thinks one version is true and others aren’t I believe God is behind them all because we speak different understand different phrases I prefer the kjv now days and it was really the only version available when I was young I suppose I got used to the antiquated language it’s written in but I actually have about ten versions of scripture I just a friend tonthe kjv because it’s where I’ve always found the most spiritual growth for myself personally

that old niv site was a blessing though when I bought it it’s just a preference thing for me I’m glad you found a version that neat suits you God speaks through them all into moor hearts if we hear the gospel and believe

yes brother what your describing there it almost feels like the ocean is being poured into a funnel and it’s overwhelming you in certain moments like there’s too much knowledge to comprehend ? Is that at all the feeling your referencing ?

like your a cup and the ocean is being dumped into you , and your only catching a cups worth and can’t keep up? That whirlwind ?

And is it possible that Job is the 'story' of each one of us dead in sin and finally given a reprieve or a new life when we come to acknowledge our need for the 'Savior'. (Job 42:1 Then Job answered the LORD, and said, 2 I know that thou canst do every thing, and that no thought can be withholden from thee. 3 Who is he that hideth counsel without knowledge? therefore have I uttered that I understood not; things too wonderful for me, which I knew not. 4 Hear, I beseech thee, and I will speak: I will demand of thee, and declare thou unto me. 5 I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine eye seeth thee. 6 Wherefore I abhor myself, and repent in dust and ashes.) It seems Job was like a dead man in his afflictions and even though he always had a sense of God he really had not accepted the 'Power' available thru the 'acceptance' or turning to the 'Savior'. ( 6 Wherefore I abhor myself, and repent in dust and ashes.) Job's experience is what we each go thru in our own way and like verse 5 ( I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine eye seeth thee.) shows we need the complete 'realization' of Jesus as Savior. Another example of prophecy perhaps????

in Christ satans power over mankind is crushed through the sacrifice of Jesus wounded for our transgressions and with the punishment of our sins upon him he has disarmed the devil and given us life through his true word infallible and forever

Does the devil at this time have the ability to influence us like with Job? I get the feeling he does in some ways. Hope uncle Arthur is ok.

Starts out telling us Job was upright. I don't think of myself as upright or wealthy like Job but for some reason the Book of Job has probably caught my attention more than any other part of the Bible. Do we gravitate toward certain parts of the Bible for a reason or is it that some parts are geared for beginners or something like that. I started reading the bible about 2018. I did read some of it in 1971 or 1972 (KJV).

Yea brother! You pegged it. Now how about this Jeremiah 16:16 ¶ Behold, I will send for many fishers, saith the LORD, and they shall fish them; and after will I send for many hunters, and they shall hunt them from every mountain, and from every hill, and out of the holes of the rocks. 17 For mine eyes are upon all their ways: they are not hid from my face, neither is their iniquity hid from mine eyes. 18 And first I will recompense their iniquity and their sin double; because they have defiled my land, they have filled mine inheritance with the carcases of their detestable and abominable things. 19 O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit. 20 Shall a man make gods unto himself, and they are no gods? 21 Therefore, behold, I will this once cause them to know, I will cause them to know mine hand and my might; and they shall know that my name is The LORD.
Mankind is enamored with all our technological advances; tv, appliances, planes, trains and automobiles. Here in Chicago CBS affiliate WBBM news radio recently reported that technology would soon solve all problems. False god? Maybe AI developed by some genius will be associated with Antichrist? I went on facebook maybe two years ago and poste there that the ( carcases of their detestable and abominable things) are automobiles. I was banned. I don't see that our technology is all that good. It seems to be ultimately destroying us. When God creates something it is good.

Job was a perfect and upright man who revered God. Satan wanted to prove to God that Job would turn against him if he were to be unprotected and persecuted. God knowing Job's faithfulness allowed Satan to persecute Job but was not permitted to take his life. Job pretty much lost everything because of Satan's persecution, but never once blamed God or turned against him. Job had three friends that kept accusing him of wrong doing, but Job kept proclaiming his innocence. In chapter 38 the Lord answered Job and told him to quit listening to words without knowledge that his three friends were speaking and went on to give Job a bible lesson. In the end of the book, after Job prayed for his friends, the Lord blessed Job with twice as much as he had before. Job is a type of God's elect that will stand against Satan and his false teachers when they come trying to deceive the people in the end times.

Very interesting how Job replies to God. Particularly since he was 'upright'. I specially find Verses Job 42:3 and 5-6 of significance relative to the whole book.

1Then Job answered the Lord and said:

2“I know that You can do everything,
And that no purpose of Yours can be withheld from You.
3You asked, ‘Who is this who hides counsel without knowledge?’
Therefore I have uttered what I did not understand,
Things too wonderful for me, which I did not know.
4Listen, please, and let me speak;
You said, ‘I will question you, and you shall answer Me.’
5“I have heard of You by the hearing of the ear,
But now my eye sees You.
6Therefore I abhor[a] myself,
And repent in dust and ashes.”

“I have heard of You by the hearing of the ear, But now my eye sees You.
6Therefore I abhor myself,
And repent in dust and ashes.”

repentance through intercession and bloodshed. ( priesthood intercession )

“And it was so, that after the LORD had spoken these words unto Job, the LORD said to Eliphaz the Temanite, My wrath is kindled against thee, and against thy two friends: for ye have not spoken of me the thing that is right,

as my servant Job hath.”
‭‭Job‬ ‭42:7‬ ‭

“Therefore take unto you now seven bullocks and seven rams, and go to my servant Job, and offer up for yourselves a burnt offering;

and my servant Job shall pray for you: for him will I accept: lest I deal with you after your folly, in that ye have not spoken of me the thing which is right, like my servant Job.

So Eliphaz the Temanite and Bildad the Shuhite and Zophar the Naamathite went, and did according as the LORD commanded them: the LORD therefore accepted Job.

And the LORD turned the captivity of Job, when he prayed for his friends: also the LORD gave Job twice as much as he had before.”
‭‭Job‬ ‭42:8-10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“and lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭3:17‬ ‭

“While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭17:5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you. Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you. Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his Lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.”
‭‭John‬ ‭15:12-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: as thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do. And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word. For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me. I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine. And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them. I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world. And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth. Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; that they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world. O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me. And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.”
‭‭John‬ ‭17:1-6, 8-10, 14-21, 24-26‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:19‬ ‭

“God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭1:1-3‬ ‭

“Therefore we ought to give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard, lest at any time we should let them slip. Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; and deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage. For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham. Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people. For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭2:1, 14-18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament. but this man, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood. Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them. For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens; For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭7:22, 24-26, 28‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us? Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth. Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us. Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭8:31, 33-35, 37-39‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Godbhas always worked through the intercession of a good and holy acceptable man like Seth , Noah , Abraham who interceded for lot , and Moses who interceded for the children of Israel when God said he was destroying them all , or job interceding for his friends who spoke wrong of God and job had not

his love for us is the sustaining force of salvation , if Jesus loves us we’re going to be saved if we do believe the gospel and convert to the faith. We have to be willing to learn from Jesus in the gospel to have faith in him and repentance and changing our ways as we become aware like job did is paramount for believers and it does happen when we become aware

Do we gravitate toward certain parts of the Bible for a reason

Sounds as though Job even as an upright man did not comprehend God as thoroughly as he thought he did. Something like the saying, 'familiarity breeds contempt'. Not that Job dismissed God but Job was possibly being self righteous. Now add two words to the saying; 'familiarity without understanding breeds contempt'. Now it seems this saying is much more apropos. Somehow the first way I put the saying seems very familiar to me. Possibly used in certain circles. May be that I have come upon a certain 'strong hold' in my own situation. Now since his three friends were so certain of him being guilty, and it seems the junior of the group, Elihu, is almost overlooked is a puzzling situation. More meditation needed?

Starts out telling us Job was upright.