The 144,000 & who they are

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FlyingDove

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Rev 7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

This verse clearly says; from ALL the tribes of the children of Israel/Jacob.

Rev 7:5-8 confirm 12,000 x 12 tribes - 144,000 - Not Just Levite's

Gen 32:28 God changed Jacob's name to Israel. The 12 tribes of Israel are Jacob's sons. Each son receives a land portion (except Levi they become the priesthood) Joseph receives a double portion of land (Gen 48:2) And divides it between his 2 sons Ephraim & Manasseh.

Rev 14:
1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Zion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.
(MY NOTE: 144k standing with the Lamb/Christ having Gods name written in them)

3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
(MY NOTE: These 144k were redeemed from the earth)

4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.
(MY NOTE: Redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb)

Matt 27:53 Also calls them 1st fruits. I say 1st to die on Christ's behalf & 1st (after Jesus) to resurrect.

Parsing vs 4
(A) 144k which were not defiled with women = ALL VIRGINS)
(B) They all follow the Lamb wherever he goes)
(C) These 144k were redeemed from among men)
(D) Being firstfruits (plural) onto God & to the Lamb. These were the 1st to die on Christ's behalff)

Matt 2:
16 Then Herod, when he saw that he was mocked of the wise men, was exceeding wroth, and sent forth, and slew all the children that were """in Bethlehem, and in all the coasts""" thereof, from two years old and under, according to the time which he had diligently enquired of the wise men.
(MY NOTE: Rereading vs 16: Herod doesn't kill the male children under 2 in Bethlehem only. He has every 2 yr & under killed in ALL THE COASTS THEREOF.

17 Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremy the prophet, saying,
(MY NOTE: Herod's treacherous actions fulfil an OT prophecy)

18 In Rama was there a voice heard, lamentation, and weeping, and great mourning, Rachel weeping for her children, and would not be comforted, because they are not.

Rev 14:5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.
(MY NOTE: The 144k were all virgins without fault & in their mouth was found NO GUILE. All 2 years or younger)

Jer 31:
15 Thus saith the LORD; A voice was heard in Ramah, lamentation, and bitter weeping; Rahel weeping for her children refused to be comforted for her children, because they were not.

16 Thus saith the LORD; Refrain thy voice from weeping, and thine eyes from tears: for thy work shall be rewarded, saith the LORD; and they shall come again from the land of the enemy.
(MY NOTE: The LORD said don't weep, the children will come again)

17 And there is hope in thine end, saith the LORD, that thy children shall come again to their own border.
(MY NOTE: The LORD said thy children shall come again to their own border)

1 Cor 15:20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
(MY NOTE: Christ is resurrected 1st)

Matt 27:50 Jesus dies, 51 the Temple is ripped in two, 52 Graves are opened, 53 After Jesus resurrection MANY CAME OUT OF THE GRAVE! I say the 1sts that were killed are the 1st fruits of the many to resurrect after Jesus.

Synopsys:

In an attempt to stop God's coming King. Herod ruthlessly murders babies in every Israeli Tribe. The LORD say's don't cry the children will return. All the babies Herod kills are VIRGINS, none of these have spoken any GUILE. I say the 1st of many to be seen following behind Jesus out of the graves after his resurrection. (Matt 27:50-51)

This is what it looks like to me. Others can see & believe, whatever they see & believe.
 

2ndTimothyGroup

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Thank you!