Thoughts on Evolution and its compatibility/incompatibility with Christianity?

Are you proposing that the earth did not exist before God created light?

The text states the earth was formless and void before God said, 'let there be light'.

Your assuming that the earth was created after God said, 'let there be light', which it was not.

There is a sequential order that God established in Genesis 1 and God did that for a reason.

Mankind arrives on the sixth day, mankind is late in the chronology and that is for a reason also.

I cannot interpret Genesis in a literal way otherwise, I will miss some of the revelation of the Christ.

If there is one error that more than any other has led to multitudes abandoning Christianity first in the West, and in much of the world after that, arguably it is the false theory of evolution.

It may be interesting to note that in Communist gulags and Concentration Camps where they persecuted and tortured Christians, they did not teach false Marxist economics; rather, they promoted Darwin's Theory of Evolution.

Source: http://archives.sspx.org/against_sound_bites/devolution_of_evolution.htm

"In 1947, Bishop O’Gara was imprisoned by the Chinese Communists and wrote from his prison cell regarding the Marxist indoctrination of his flock. A number of them were “hopeless” to the new regime and were executed. Those considered “salvageable” had to attend a week-long class as the new “People’s Republic” was born. His letter described the retraining classes. He does not refer to Marxist philosophy, redistribution of wealth, or even basic socialist principles, but rather Darwinian evolution. This was what was considered the first vital step towards a cooperative communist populace. Eliminate God the Creator, eliminate original sin, replace God with the State.

The Communists utilized Darwin’s observations of natural selection1 (which are valid observations) to advance a concept that all life, humans included, is pure chance resulting from environmental pressures existing for untold millions of years slowly molding them into their current status. The beginnings of life resulted from chance occurrences with random molecules. From a primordial ooze came the first living cell which became a two-celled organism and, billions of years later, became a human being, an organism of 100 trillion cells. The Chinese relied upon Charles Darwin’s theory of evolution to undermine the religious foundation of millions of faithful. Those too strong to crack were eliminated.2"

The below was written in an American Creation Science Text Book in 1928 by Rev. Williams in New Jersey. It also presciently exposed the "Piltdown Man" Evolutionist Hoax decades before evolutionists admitted it: http://ldolphin.org/wmwilliams.html

Thoughts?

"So baneful has been the effect of teaching evolution as a proven hypothesis, that multitudes have been led into infidelity [apostasy] and atheism. Prof. James H. Leuba, of Bryn Mawr College, Pa. sent a questionnaire to 1000 of the most prominent scientists teaching sciences relating to evolution. The replies indicate that more than one-half do not believe in a personal God, nor the immortality of the soul--beliefs almost universal even in the heathen world. So pernicious is this doctrine of evolution that more than one-half of the professors who teach it and kindred subjects, are infidels and atheists and farther from God than the ignorant heathen. And while we are happy in the conviction that the great majority of professors and teachers of other subjects are Christians [i.e. were Christians, in 1928], yet one or two atheists or infidels are sufficient to make havoc of the faith of many, in a great college or university.

A doctrine so abhorrent to the conscience, so contrary to the well nigh universal belief, and so fruitful of evil, certainly can not be true. Small wonder is it that students are fast becoming infidels and atheists, and we shudder as we think of the coming generation. A great responsibility rests upon the authorities who employ such teachers.

The answers of the students in seven large representative colleges and universities to Prof. Leuba's questionnaire, show that while only 15% of the Freshmen have abandoned the Christian religion, 30% of the Juniors and over 40% of the Seniors have abandoned the Christian faith. Note the steady and rapid growth of infidelity and atheism as a result of this pernicious theory.

Will Christian parents patronize or support or endow institutions that give an education that is worse than worthless? What the colleges teach today the world will believe tomorrow.

Atheism, under its own name, has never had many to embrace it. Its only hope is to be tolerated and believed under some other name. In Russia, no man is allowed to belong to the ruling (Communist) party unless he is an atheist. It will be a sorry world when "scientific" atheism wins, under the name of evolution.

No one has a moral right to believe what is false, much less to teach it, under the specious plea of freedom of thought.

It is the privilege and duty of parents to send their children to institutions that are safe.

Nathan Leopold, Jr., and Richard Loeb kidnapped and cruelly murdered Robert Franks. Both were brilliant scholars and atheists. Both graduates of universities though minors, and both were taking a post-graduate course in the University of Chicago. It is asserted and widely believed that they were encouraged in their atheistic belief by the teaching of evolution and modernism, and were thus prepared to commit a crime that shocked the world.

Most of the writers who advocated evolution became atheists or infidels; most of the professors who teach it, believe neither in God nor the immortality of the soul; and the number of students discarding Christianity rose from 15% in the Freshman year to 40% in the Senior. What more proof is needed?"

God created all things and He did not use evolution to do it for He can create things in their mature form

What came first the chicken or the egg it was the chicken.

The new age movement interprets the Bible and religions according to the occult

they want to exalt themselves as evolving to be spiritual and there is no personal God above them.

Which they believe Lucifer is a solar angel that descended from Venus to Earth eons ago to bring the principle of mind to the then animal-man and will cause them to evolve to be spiritual in the future.

It is the same lie that was told to Eve that she would be like a god if she ate the fruit which the new age movement look at Lucifer as the good god and Adonai, Yahweh, was the imposter who bound man from becoming gods.

"Evolution happened" over millions of years.

The Bible says that Adam and Eve were created "in one fell swoop".

No mention of them coming from a lineage of evolving creatures.

Many people claim to think Adam and Eve were metaphors for the beginnings of Mankind generally.

The story continues with Adam's sons, then his grandsons and through generations.

Then there's the idea of sin. If Adam were an evolving creature, did he reach the state of manhood, at which he reached the state of accountability?

If so, are animals on the same road of development to accountable creatures? Will they need a savior? Will it be Jesus or another?

Is Noah a metaphor?...or Abraham?...Jesus?!

What about the "equivalency between Adam and Jesus - "the second Adam"?

Genesis informs that God created over a period of 6 literal days and in Exodus this information is further developed when God informs that He set His creative work as a pattern for the nation of Israel to follow. They were to work for 6 days and rest for 1 day. This makes sense only when the days are of 24 hour periods as it would be rather absurd to think the Israelites had to work for 6 days of Billions of years and to rest for 1 billion years.

IF God had created over billions of years He could very easily have inspired Moses to choose the correct terms to convey that by using OLAM and Qedem instead of 'yom.'

Furthermore, Genesis informs that animals were created according to their 'kind.' Modern science confirms that the DNA content of each 'kind' is creature specific e.g. the DNA with the feline kind will only ever produce offspring that are cats; and humans will only ever reproduce other humans.

It's a moot point but had Charlie Darwin known about the huge complexity of the cell which is more sophisticated than a Space Shuttle his 'Origins' - which by the way doesn't identify an original olrganism - would not have reached the printer.

Evolution is simply impossible, order cannot come from chaos. The laws of thermodynamics prove this. Evolution if completely contradictory to the creation and is incompatible with Christianity. Evolution is simply a lie. Unfortunately in this age, we are constantly bombarded with lies, we need to be diligent at all times in all matters.

Many blessings be upon you, thank you for the interesting and informative post.

JF

I want to say that this is life. No matter you are rich or poor, you will encounter problems in life. For example, if people believe in God, what else should Bishop O’Gara do? They can go to meet God, I mean dead and raised.

Everyone encounters a bit more than mere problems in life.

The truth is in life there are no winners, everyone ends up in the graveyard.

A planet full of losers with one unavoidable destination.

They carry on and make so much noise during their short lives, then they quietly disappear.

That is one of the reasons I call on the name of Jesus.

A literal six days of creation is insufficient time for plants to grow. Adam and Eve would have no food to eat for months.

If you then argue that God created plants fully grown. Then the plants are older than they look. Does everything else in creation look much older than it's actual age?

The earth looks very old but is actually, only, a little older than a pyramid?

Mountain ranges formed by colliding plates were instantly created?

This is the problem, our planet has from top to bottom, an ancient age written all over it.

Solomon would agree with you...all is vanity. To me that's a bit too fatalistic. A life lived well gets a well done from the Lord and even our trials and struggles work for us a far more abundant and exceeding weight in glory. And eternal life is knowing God and that can be done anywhere at any time and under any circumstances.

Sorry, it's not fatalistic, life kills everyone. Just a fact of life.

Physics falsely claims that the arrow of time points forward. Well that's wrong. The arrow of time is backwards. When you get much older you have an enormous past, but a diminishing future. Who cares about Einstein, Trump, Elon Musk, or anyone else. Here today gone tomorrow.

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A literal six days of creation is insufficient time for plants to grow.

A literal six days of creation is insufficient time for plants to grow. Adam and Eve would have no food to eat for months.

If you then argue that God created plants fully grown. Then the plants are older than they look. Does everything else in creation look much older than it appears to be?

The earth looks very old but is actually only a little older than a pyramid?

A question you might want to consider is whether the tree that Jesus cursed instantaneously withered or whether it rapidly aged and withered.

Either case could be true.

Why then couldn't the first plants rapidly age?

Maybe if you read the bible, you would know 1. God made the fruit and seed-baring fruits before he made man 2. With God, all things are possible. God doesn't need the time man says it takes for food to grow LOL. 3. the time it takes after the FALL OF man causes them to Labor or wait for their food because of SIN. Human rational is not an authority over the God of the Bible. The Lord God Lives outside of time, space, and matter. Unlike you and I.