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Cameron143

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Scarecrow said:
so now you are saying that the people who wrote the Constitution of the United States were NOT Christians.
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Not at all. Allowing slavery was a concession made so a nation could be formed. It was an ill-conceived idea and horribly sinful, and eventually led to a civil war. My contention is that it was Christians who remedied the situation and who continued and still continue to better the conditions of all. It is non Christians who promoted slavery and all the ills afterward and who still do so today.
The Christians failed initially but have been the source of correction. You are fighting against the very people who have helped you and fighting alongside those who have injured you. And you don't seem to possess the wisdom to know the difference.
As much as I can see your pain and subsequent outrage, I'm saddened by the fact that it is so misdirected and, thus, will not be assauged or satisfied on your current path.
 
Roughsoul1991

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Everything is a product of mirror neurons
When you see someone experiencing an emotion like jewelry or laughter or sadness, the same neurons fire in your brain so your brain wants to feel the emotion too
I know what it's like to be hurt so I don't want to hurt someone else. This isn't hard
Do you want to live in a world where a crazy dictator can just murder people and get away with it? Neither do I..taahaaah... Moral conundrum solved
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What if I'm the dictator and have the power to protect the neurons I wish not to experience but easily force my morality on everyone else. Then I would have the moral high ground right?
 
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Wow, Fox News lying....what are the odds of that happening? (that was sarcasm BTW)

The American Family Association is considered a hate group for many reasons including their stance that no white child should be subjected to the "humiliation of attending a school named for an African American."
That Native American's Should have followed the lead of Pocahontas' lead in accepting the superiority of the newly arrives white settlers
That only Christians should be allowed to emigrate to America.
That the main problem of black people is "they rut like rabbits"
That “Muslim Americans do not have First Amendment rights,”
and many other sad claims.



i keep asking you about this persecution but you never actually say who is being persecuted and how.

facts are facts


How?

How?


you keep talking abotu all this horrible persecution here....you still havn't ointed to any though.


goos because discrimination is a terrible and ugly thing that has no place in our country.


there has been over 250,000 cases of Covid in un-vaccinated military personal with a death rater of about twice that for the general population




This handful of people were deported for committing immigration fraud, they claimed they were fleeing persecution in Iraq but were actually living in Germany https://www.christianitytoday.com/n...ng-iraq-chaldean-christians-asylum-fraud.html


you are supporting the idea that an employer should not have to cover medical treatments they don't agree with so should an employer who is a Jehovah's Witness be allowed to refuse coverage of blood transfusions for their employees?


( Here is the court's decision, you should read it)

Thanks, what of it?
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A lot of claims but no sources.

As for the Iraqi Christians they felt safer in the US.

Asylum is for emergencies only,” Ginger Jacobs, a San Diego attorney, told the Union-Tribune. “There are many, many people fleeing Iraq for bona fide emergency reasons. But if somebody is able to live as a citizen in a country like Germany or the United Kingdom or Australia, then they don’t necessarily deserve an emergency remedy such as asylum.”

They were legitimate asylum seekers and was looking for asylum in America not Germany or the UN. But I guess we can have open borders until it comes to Christians.

While Islamic refugees just entered without no harassment.
 
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i don't see any real issues here. can you elaborate?
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(No reason? Sociological factors, birth/death rates, disease, cost of medical insurance and taxes, the social construct of the family being absent of one biological father or mother. These are real issues for a nation to consider.)

Culture beliefs affect the nation for good or for bad. For instance, no restraint of LGBT ideology has now attacked women's sports and subjected kids to drag queen story hours or field trips to lgbt events.

Our country has more deaths than births. This is important because we need bodies sustain the economy and the military. There is by average ages 18 to 60 who we rely on to keep these things going. If more people are dying then this creates shortages. Add abortion, inflation, a Fentanyl crisis, and climate hysteria to also add to lives being lost or not born. So our government chooses immigration without assimilation to solve this. No assimilation means we are destroying ourselves from the inside by lack of births and losing the American identity.

Medicaid, Medicare, private insurance all goes up when the population adopts unhealthy behaviors. Same as why car insurance goes up.

Absent fathers or mothers (biological) statistically create lots of issues for children.
 
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What if I'm the dictator and have the power to protect the neurons I wish not to experience but easily force my morality on everyone else. Then I would have the moral high ground right?
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How exactly would you protect neurons? That doesn't even make sense
 
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Almost all child molesters are heterosexual men
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Very misleading since heterosexual men outnumber gay men. If heterosexual men outnumber gay men 11:1 then both groups are equally likely to be pedophiles.

Previous investigations have indicated that the ratio of sex offenders against female children vs. offenders against male children is approximately 2:1, while the ratio of gynephiles to androphiles among the general population is approximately 20:1. The present study investigated whether the etiology of preferred partner sex among pedophiles is related to the etiology of preferred partner sex among males preferring adult partners. Using phallometric test sensitivities to calculate the proportion of true pedophiles among various groups of sex offenders against children, and taking into consideration previously reported mean numbers of victims per offender group, the ratio of heterosexual to homosexual pedophiles was calculated to be approximately 11:1. This suggests that the resulting proportion of true pedophiles among persons with a homosexual erotic development is greater than that in persons who develop heterosexually. This, of course, would not indicate that androphilic males have a greater propensity to offend against children.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1556756/

Generally when we say "heterosexual" we mean men attracted to women.

However, the definition of a pedophile is

They are sexually attracted to prepubescent children, and only prepubescent children. Showing no erotic interest in adults, they can only become sexually aroused while fantasizing about or being in the presence of prepubescent children, or both.

So it is absurd to talk of them as either heterosexual or homosexual which is why we have "gays against groomers".
 
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Cameron143 said:
Are you saying that homosexuality is innate?
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You're moving to go post. You didn't answer my question. How are you going to protect neurons and protect them from what?
 
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You're moving to go post. You didn't answer my question. How are you going to protect neurons and protect them from what?
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This is a major issue for the NFL and moving the goal posts was one of the things they did to protect neurons.

Goal posts were originally kept on the goal lines, but after they began to interfere with play, they moved back to the end lines in 1927, where they have remained in college football ever since. The National Football League moved the goal posts up to the goal line again in 1933, then back again to the end line in 1974.
 
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This is a major issue for the NFL and moving the goal posts was one of the things they did to protect neurons.

Goal posts were originally kept on the goal lines, but after they began to interfere with play, they moved back to the end lines in 1927, where they have remained in college football ever since. The National Football League moved the goal posts up to the goal line again in 1933, then back again to the end line in 1974.
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He made a claim that he can't back up and now he's trying to dodge the question
 
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You're moving to go post. You didn't answer my question. How are you going to protect neurons and protect them from what?
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That question was directed at someone else...so I didn't know I had to answer a question directed to another poster before asking you a question. If this is posting etiquette I was unfamiliar with I apologize.
 
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Do I think homosexuality is innate? I don't know for sure but my brother told me that he knew as early as 5 years old that he was gay.
I covered this earlier. How does one choose to whom he or she is attracted? It's just a matter of brain chemistry. Attraction is subjective. Same reason humor is subjective. When you hear a joke that registers in your brain is funny, you're going to laugh. It's involuntary. Attraction works the same way
 
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Do I think homosexuality is innate? I don't know for sure but my brother told me that he knew as early as 5 years old that he was gay.
I covered this earlier. How does one choose to whom he or she is attracted? It's just a matter of brain chemistry. Attraction is subjective. Same reason humor is subjective. When you hear a joke that registers in your brain is funny, you're going to laugh. It's involuntary. Attraction works the same way
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Statistics say differently. With so much homosexual advocacy in recent times, there has been significant rise in the size of the homosexual community. If homosexuality was merely an innate characteristic, no amount of information would substantially increase the homosexual population. The increase is causal because homosexuality is large influenced by the environment and not innate.
You may say some of the environmental factors are not within the control of an individual, but homosexuality is a learned behavior.
 
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Statistics say differently. With so much homosexual advocacy in recent times, there has been significant rise in the size of the homosexual community. If homosexuality was merely an innate characteristic, no amount of information would substantially increase the homosexual population. The increase is causal because homosexuality is large influenced by the environment and not innate.
You may say some of the environmental factors are not within the control of an individual, but homosexuality is a learned behavior.
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Or could it be that American culture has changed and since the average American doesn't really give a flip about what consenting adults are doing, more people are coming out now. Because it's not as socially taboo as it used to be
 
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Or could it be that American culture has changed and since the average American doesn't really give a flip about what consenting adults are doing, more people are coming out now. Because it's not as socially taboo as it used to be
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What does history tell us? When homosexuality is propagated, it's observance increases.
 
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What does history tell us? When homosexuality is propagated, it's observance increases.
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Got any receipts to back up that claim?
Nobody just magically turns gay because they saw a gay person. Let's come back to reality
 
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What does history tell us? When homosexuality is propagated, it's observance increases.
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Imagine that! :unsure::)
The adversary has a long history of confusing people and has gotten very good at it though already defeated.
best wishes
 
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Got any receipts to back up that claim?
Nobody just magically turns gay because they saw a gay person. Let's come back to reality
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So then, show us the receipts for this claim.
 
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Got any receipts to back up that claim?
Nobody just magically turns gay because they saw a gay person. Let's come back to reality
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I'll have to look up sources from earlier studies I've done but I will get back to you.
And no, it's not magic. It's tragic. Especially since a number of the causes bring deep psychological harm to those affected. Many of the causes are related to either absent fathers or domineering fathers. There are too many problems associated with both these conditions, homosexuality is merely one. Other social ills of our day are related to this as well. And as detrimental responses are normalized and even glamorized, they will be unfortunately chosen.
 
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