LGBT MOVEMENT CONTINUES TO INFILTRATE CHRISTIAN CHURCHES

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Pilgrimshope

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He also, as far as is recorded, never condoned what they did. He always loved them, but told them to quit sinning.... what do you think Jesus would have said if the woman that had been married 5 times and was now living with a man that wasn't her husband told him, "thanks for the visit, but I'm going to continue living the way I want".... ?
He told that to the Pharisees..... he told the woman "go, and stop your sinning".... . how do you argue with that?
another posts nail it

First jesus hears thier accusation against her according to Moses law

“Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou? This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.”
‭‭John‬ ‭8:5-6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Then he says what he knows will drive her accusers away and leave him alone with her ( this is her being saved by grace the law said she must be put to death ( Leviticus 20:10) Jesus saves her by turning the law back in them using it to accuse and tempt

“So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground. And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.”
‭‭John‬ ‭8:7-9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

now that he’s saved her life and driven away those accusing her and wanting to stone her to death when she’s alone with the lord being saved from death

“When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee? She said, No man, Lord. ( because Jesus sent them all away and made them look at themselves )

And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.

Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life. The Pharisees therefore said unto him, Thou bearest record of thyself; thy record is not true.”
‭‭John‬ ‭8:10-13‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Jesus saves us by his mercy d teaches us by his true blessing us and turning us from our iniquity not by the law that condemns and kills but by the truth and grace of the gospel

pauos doctrine is the same he established “ your forgiven “ then his letters turn to “ no go and stop sinning d start loving others “
 

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Satan setting us up for the end time homosexual antichrist?...

DANIEL 11
36And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done. 37Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.
This is our world today foretold about 1900 years ago give or take by the apostle Paul

This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.”
‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭3:1-5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

it’s the pattern that reoccurs from genesis 6 in thier fogurative last days before he destroyed them

“And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭6:5-6‬ ‭

ashen man becomes warped and twisted on a mass scale it’s bearing the end of the cycle
 

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I think if we continue to "tolerate" a certain individual after they were approached several times & didn't repent we would become guilty as well.
Do what you have to do.
 

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I think if we continue to "tolerate" a certain individual after they were approached several times & didn't repent we would become guilty as well.
Do what you have to do.
If we speak the truth in the dark this can happen

“in meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; and that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.”
‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭2:25-26‬ ‭KJV‬‬

and if we speak the truth others will go away by themselves but it’s when we change the truth and try to make sin irrelevant when we become wrong

embrace the person but speak the truth about sin it gives them the choice that way to stay or go some react this way instead of getting free from satans Will

“And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.”
‭‭John‬ ‭3:19-21‬ ‭KJV‬‬

some people love thier sinful lives more than God and won’t come to him because they know he’s going to reprice thier sins and bring them out of it but that’s not what they want in truth

gods word divides light from dark we just share it in truth without altering it

a repentance and also remission of sins is the message “ God loves you and has forgiven us for our sins , and is warning us we have to repent of our sinful ways and teaching us his ways “ that way no one has excuse
 

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You are taking that verse out of context btw and it does not apply.
Hes just missing this part when mankind distorted the image of God into corruption like beasts driven by lust ofnthe flesh

“For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: and likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭1:18-32‬ ‭KJV‬‬

a that’s why we sin asp much in so many ways we as a species rejected God in the beginning and have been ever since as he’s been pleasing with us to return and warning ofnthe coming destruction for that
wickedness
the gospel is for restoring the image of God to believers who were once a part of that group unwittingly

“And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭2:1-3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

when we come to Jesus and believe the gospel we’re being changed into his image from that place of being objects of wrath with the world in times past before we come to Christ believing as we do focus on Jesus this happens


“But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭3:18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

He who is the image and glory of God

“Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭1:15‬ ‭

Man corrupted the image of God they were created to be into sinful creatures bent on rebellion against him in thier heart because of lusts of this world

christ has come to restore that image and rightful inheritance and fellowship with God the Father


We’re being saved from the corruption in the world which comes from mans heart and mind in all wickedness and rebellion against the image and nature of God

We’re being reborn through the gospel in Gods spirit because that’s going to change us from darkness to light in the lord which we were created to be
 

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Lol.
It’s not about who you are, it’s about you condeming and who you think are wrong and you somehow are right.
‘The Gays are people like us and are created in God’s image.

This is why Jesus said about the prostitute about to be condemned by the crowd “He who is without sin, cast the first stone”
And then he told her to continue in her sin?
No.
 

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There are many sexual perverts in churches. But here are no sexual perverts in the Kingdom of God.
Hes just missing this part when mankind distorted the image of God into corruption like beasts driven by lust ofnthe flesh

“For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: and likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭1:18-32‬ ‭KJV‬‬

a that’s why we sin asp much in so many ways we as a species rejected God in the beginning and have been ever since as he’s been pleasing with us to return and warning ofnthe coming destruction for that
wickedness
the gospel is for restoring the image of God to believers who were once a part of that group unwittingly

“And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭2:1-3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

when we come to Jesus and believe the gospel we’re being changed into his image from that place of being objects of wrath with the world in times past before we come to Christ believing as we do focus on Jesus this happens


“But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭3:18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

He who is the image and glory of God

“Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭1:15‬ ‭

Man corrupted the image of God they were created to be into sinful creatures bent on rebellion against him in thier heart because of lusts of this world

christ has come to restore that image and rightful inheritance and fellowship with God the Father


We’re being saved from the corruption in the world which comes from mans heart and mind in all wickedness and rebellion against the image and nature of God

We’re being reborn through the gospel in Gods spirit because that’s going to change us from darkness to light in the lord which we were created to be
I see you get laughed at too. I’m really okay being on the same team.

Solid post, btw.
 

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There are many sexual perverts in churches. But here are no sexual perverts in the Kingdom of God.


I see you get laughed at too. I’m really okay being on the same team.

Solid post, btw.
alive known you as a brother from the first time I read some of your words

I’ve always been on your team brother we all are some are just not rowing in the same direction yet

aid say there are a lot of folks who are t flawless yet in the church maybe even a pervert as you correctly say but here’s a section letter for us to let into our hearts To call Us to get out of whatever thing we know we’re doing that’s sin


“Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry: for which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience: in the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them. But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth. Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds; and have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him: where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all. Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering; forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye. And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness. And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful. Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord. And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭3:5-17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

What I’m mean is huge part of” church “ is to tell People how God isn’t holding thier sins against them thats why they get baptized when they believe the gospel

Yet that is established , a focus of church is to tell those yet imperfect people how to overcome sin in thier life and why thy need to .

to warn people in church you really do need to take this seriously and start applying yourself to what you believe it’s very real business and he means what he’s telling us” so I’d say there’s plenty of sinners usually people keep those things secret in a church so we don’t know thier sins whatever they are anyways

a lot more to church of course fellowship a group that begins to bond and really have me love among them , charity ect a lot of things church helps us I’m saying it all works together to change the people who believe the message in the gospel but it requires non judgement of others by the flock. ( the shepherds deal with administrative issues )
 

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And then he told her to continue in her sin?
No.
Amen He always forgave sins and always taught people to stop sinning and to love other people by his teachings. And always warned people after he befriended and healed them up he started instructing them in all things of God , believers followed him and learned from him and were blessed and welcomed in his presence for thier faith

“Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

He taught the crowds

“I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭13:3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

he definately doesn’t approve of or condone ongoing sin and always was saying “ I’ve forgiven you all your sins even the mistakes you’ll make ahead now you need to stop living that way and instead hear and learn from me

still saying it to us

“Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭13:8‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 

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Satan setting us up for the end time homosexual antichrist?...

DANIEL 11
36And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done. 37Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.

I don't believe this is about his sexuality. He could have several wives, which would be a disregard of what women desire.
He will hate women as per Gen 3:15 He will not regard women's desires, women's needs.



Dan 11:37 He will not show regard for the gods of his ancestors, the god desired by women, or for any other god, because he will magnify himself above all. 38 Instead, he will honor a god of fortresses—a god his ancestors did not know—with gold, silver, precious stones, and riches.