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Prior to the 15th century it seems RCC in the West was it.
1) From the time of the First Coming of Christ, the 'true church' has never ceased to exist. It has always been here.

2) The RCC never has been - and, never will be - the 'true church'.

3) The 'true church' has always been a/the target of the RCC.

The RCC has always made itself to be the enemy of the 'true church'.

The RCC persecuted the 'true church' with extreme measures during the 'dark ages' part of history.
 
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The RCC persecuted the 'true church' with extreme measures during the 'dark ages' part of history.
The RCC was dominant. So, the True Church, has been "underground' almost from the beginning. Some in the True Church were likely associated with RCC throughout history.
 

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I wonder how popular that religion is in rural America? The building reminds me of a country church.
Christian Science is a small cult here that denies all major tendents of Biblical Christianity. It denies that matter exists. It is a Gnostic Sect. One of their beliefs is that God mind heals everyone thus wheel chair ramps would have no use for their churches.

Their starting point is:

The scientific statement of being
There is no life, truth, intelligence, nor substance in matter. All is infinite Mind and its infinite manifestation, for God is All-in-all. Spirit is immortal Truth; matter is mortal error. Spirit is the real and eternal; matter is the unreal and temporal. Spirit is God, and man is His image and likeness. Therefore man is not material; he is spiritual.

From Science and Health with Key to the Scriptures
by Mary Baker Eddy, p. 468:9–15

They hide their true beliefs in this https://www.christianscience.com/what-is-christian-science/beliefs-and-teachings

quotes:

n Christian Science we learn that the substitution of
the spiritual for the material definition of a Scrip‐
3tural word often elucidates the meaning of the inspired
writer. On this account this chapter is added. It con‐
tains the metaphysical interpretation of Bible terms,
6giving their spiritual sense, which is also their original
meaning.

Angels. God’s thoughts passing to man; spiritualintuitions, pure and perfect; the inspiration of goodness,6purity, and immortality, counteracting all evil, sensuality,and mortality.

Christ. The divine manifestation of God, which comesto the flesh to destroy incarnate error.

Jesus. The highest human corporeal concept of the
divine idea, rebuking and destroying error and bringing
18to light man’s immortality.

Death. An illusion, the lie of life in matter; the un‐
real and untrue; the opposite of Life.

Matter has no life, hence it has no real existence. Mind
12is immortal. The flesh, warring against Spirit; that
which frets itself free from one belief only to be fettered
by another, until every belief of life where Life is not
15yields to eternal Life. Any material evidence of death is
false, for it contradicts the spiritual facts of being.

Devil. Evil; a lie; error; neither corporeality nor
18mind; the opposite of Truth; a belief in sin, sickness,
and death; animal magnetism or hypnotism; the lust of
the flesh, which saith: “I am life and intelligence in
21matter. There is more than one mind, for I am mind, —
a wicked mind, self-made or created by a tribal god and
put into the opposite of mind, termed matter, thence to
24reproduce a mortal universe, including man, not after the
image and likeness of Spirit, but after its own image.”

Dan (Jacob’s son).  Animal magnetism; so-called mor‐
27tal mind controlling mortal mind; error, working out
the designs of error; one belief preying upon another.

Mortal Mind. Nothing claiming to be something,
for Mind is immortal; mythology; error creating other
27errors; a suppositional material sense, alias the belief
592:1that sensation is in matter, which is sensationless; a be‐
lief that life, substance, and intelligence are in and of
3matter; the opposite of Spirit, and therefore the opposite
of God, or good; the belief that life has a beginning
and therefore an end; the belief that man is the off‐
6spring of mortals; the belief that there can be more than
one creator; idolatry; the subjective states of error;
material senses; that which neither exists in Science nor
9can be recognized by the spiritual sense; sin; sickness;
death.

Resurrection. Spiritualization of thought; a newand higher idea of immortality, or spiritual existence;material belief yielding to spiritual understanding.

Salvation. Life, Truth, and Love understood and
21demonstrated as supreme over all; sin, sickness, and
death destroyed.



https://www.christianscience.com/th...stor/science-and-health/chapter-xvii-glossary
 

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Continuing the aside of exposing Christian Science from last post:

Much energy and concern is expended by Christian Scientists regarding aggressive mental suggestion, and it’s close cousin, malicious animal magnetism/animal magnetism. There is great fear and anxiety about it among many Christian Scientists. This is probably the one thing that is most responsible for the secretiveness of Christian Scientists about so many aspects of their life practice, especially health concerns.

Christian Science Treatment: as the name implies, it is the process by which one ‘treats’ a condition themselves or has a condition treated by a Christian Science practitioner, or other Christian Scientist. It is a systematic process mainly involving affirming what is known in Christian Science as the ‘Truth’, and denying what is commonly called ‘error’ (see below), or the false claim (say of disease, for instance). This false claim can be anything negative or discordant in one’s life: emotional, relationship, or financial issues; or physical issues ranging from cuts and bruises on up to AIDS, diabetes, or cancer. To the Christian Scientist, it’s all the same.
https://exchristianscience.com/glossary/
https://exchristianscience.com/recommended-resources/

MALICIOUS ANIMAL MAGNETISM
REV. MARY B. G. EDDY

From the February 1889 issue of The Christian Science Journal

One of the greatest crimes practiced in, or known to, the ages, is mental assassination. A mind liberated from the beliefs of sense, to do good, by perverting its power becomes warped into the lines of evil without let or hindrance. A mind taught its power to touch other minds by the transference of thought, for the ends of restoration from sickness, or,—grandest of all, the reformation and almost transformation, into the living image and likeness of God, —this mind by misusing its freedom reaches the degree of total moral depravity.

Does the community know this criminal? He sits at the friendly board and fireside; he goes to their places of worship; he takes his victim by the hand, and all the time claims the power and carries the will to stab to the heart, to take character and life from this friend who gives him his hand in full trust, and has perhaps toiled and suffered to benefit and bless him.

What are some of the methods of this evil, this satan let loose? What are some of the means through which these mental assassins effect their purposes? To alienate friends, to divide households, to make people sick and sinners; these are their common instrumentalities.

Their methods of operation are to infuse silently into the thoughts of those they wish to use as instruments, a false sense of the individual selected as their victim. Long acquaintance, tried fidelity, experiences that have knit hearts together, all become as nothing before these endeavors. The mind of the individual on whom they thus operate is filled with hatred of the dearest friend, is made incapable of a just judgment of this friend. Prior knowledge of him seems to be obscured, put out, annihilated, and a new image of thought to be created,—one idea of individual character to be lost and another one formed, in the mind of him whom they would cause to hate his friend.

In this dilemma of thought, they get the audible falsehood into his mind, tell him how his friend has slandered him, is trying to injure him. If he is a Scientist they then say to him, "Mr. Smith," or "Mrs. Jones is preventing your success in healing patients, or is making your family sick, and the only way you can meet this is to take the case up, and to treat your patients against Mrs. Jones' mental malpractice; if you can destroy your patients' fear of Mrs. Jones, or can choke her off by any means however foul, you are conscientiously bound to do it, and of two evils this is choosing the least." There may be a hundred or more operators all set at work at this very job, to kill Mrs. Jones, or to save their patients or themselves, according as the directing malevolence may dictate. The said Jones is all the while as unconscious of this conspiracy as the unborn babe. The mental assassins are morally responsible for the consequences, and God alone can save her life from the fatal effects of this malice aforethought of the first party, and the culpable blindness of the second, whom they have misguided.

When the work of the mental assassin culminates, and the victim falls, the doctors are consulted and call it heart disease or some other "visitation of God," and thus they try to carry the age along on their deceptions.

This criminal practice, this "wickedness in high places," has accumulated in subtilty of method until it culminates at this period in "spiritual wickedness" and poses its power to do evil against the spiritual power in Christian Science to demonstrate good. When first denounced by me "from the housetops," in Science and Health thirteen years ago, the revelation was received with incredulity, with derision, with pity. Today Scientists are learning, and the general public is experiencing more and more, the terrible realities of mental malpractice and assassination.

It is no longer possible to keep still concerning these things,— nay, it is criminal to hold silence and to cover crime that grows bolder and picks off its victims as sharpshooters pick off the officers of an attacking force.

These secret, heaven-defying enormities must be proclaimed, or we become guilty before God as accessory after the fact. If a friend were fallen upon and maltreated or murdered before our eyes, should we hold ourselves guiltless,—should we count ourselves men and women,—if we buried the secret of the violence and our knowledge of the assassins?

Are we such cowards, knowing the facts that we do know, as to turn and run? Shall we see the evil, the deadly danger that threatens our brother and to hide ourselves, flee away not warning him?

The Science of mind uncovers to Scientists secret sin, even more distinctly than so-called physical crimes are visible to the personal senses; crime is always veiled in obscurity, but Science fastens guilt upon its author through mind, with the certainty and directness of the eye of God himself.

Human laws will eventually be framed for these criminals that now go unwhipped of human justice. Human law even now recognizes crime as mental, for it seeks always the motive; rude counterfeit as it is of Divine Justice, it metes out punishment or pardons, according as it finds or finds not the evil intent, the mental element. The time has come for instructing human justice so that these secret criminals shall tremble before the omnipotent finger that points them out to the human executioner.

This is not an invitation to promiscuous denunciation. The time is not ripe for that, but God tells us now to uncover this wickedness, to expose its methods, to accumulate the evidences of its enormities. The human mind must be instructed by facts, taught how to recognize the signs of these secret crimes as they are worked on individuals, and also the method of self protection, the antidotes found only in Divine Science.

God has bidden me to uncover this wickedness, and I follow His voice. Let all Scientists aid in this work, first, by bringing out in their reports on the practice of healing, careful statements of the facts of malicious animal magnetism that are daily passing before their eyes. I am not inviting them to indiscriminating condemnation, but to bring out such facts as have come within their own field of observation.

I have put on paper enough to reveal criminal magnetism, and to meet its developments for time to come, when my voice will be no longer heard. But God does not let us wait. He tells us to denounce now, some of the crimes of malicious mind, and to teach as fully as the age can bear and as the developments of this crime demand, its methods and their unfailing antidote.

I will now answer some questions that correspondents have asked me, concerning my teaching of and ways of dealing with, malicious animal magnetism.

One correspondent asks, "Do I teach the same with regard to mesmerism to all my students?"

My answer is, I do, in substance the same; the manner of expressing my thoughts may vary, but never the idea. Every student who has been through my class understands fully how to handle the ignorant animal magnetism, termed sickness, and latterly, I have taught as fully as God has allowed, how to deal with the malicious element. He tells me now to meet its growing wickedness by fuller revelations.

"Do I approve of treating personally for malicious mesmerism the offending malpractitioner, even when the malpractitioner is attempting to kill some one, and Scientists know it? Shall they treat the offender personally?"

I answer, if they do treat thus, they prolong their own undertaking. The altitude of Christian Science is Omnipotence. Truth is given us for this purpose,—to destroy error and make man free in the impersonal Christ.

"Do I employ students to do the work I have not the time to do?" in other words, in trying to injure fellow beings.

I could commit suicide sooner than do that; I have laid upon the altar too much for my fellow mortals, to undo my life work, and now turn to injure them. The very misguided ones, the deluded ones who would constrain others to believe this for my hurt, know better. These deceivers are under a demoniacal spell. May God open their eyes and save them from future condemnation.

https://journal.christianscience.com/shared/view/fup3sf2nok
 

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Continuing the aside of exposing Christian Science from last post:

Much energy and concern is expended by Christian Scientists regarding aggressive mental suggestion, and it’s close cousin, malicious animal magnetism/animal magnetism. There is great fear and anxiety about it among many Christian Scientists. This is probably the one thing that is most responsible for the secretiveness of Christian Scientists about so many aspects of their life practice, especially health concerns.

Christian Science Treatment: as the name implies, it is the process by which one ‘treats’ a condition themselves or has a condition treated by a Christian Science practitioner, or other Christian Scientist. It is a systematic process mainly involving affirming what is known in Christian Science as the ‘Truth’, and denying what is commonly called ‘error’ (see below), or the false claim (say of disease, for instance). This false claim can be anything negative or discordant in one’s life: emotional, relationship, or financial issues; or physical issues ranging from cuts and bruises on up to AIDS, diabetes, or cancer. To the Christian Scientist, it’s all the same.
https://exchristianscience.com/glossary/
https://exchristianscience.com/recommended-resources/

MALICIOUS ANIMAL MAGNETISM
REV. MARY B. G. EDDY

From the February 1889 issue of The Christian Science Journal

One of the greatest crimes practiced in, or known to, the ages, is mental assassination. A mind liberated from the beliefs of sense, to do good, by perverting its power becomes warped into the lines of evil without let or hindrance. A mind taught its power to touch other minds by the transference of thought, for the ends of restoration from sickness, or,—grandest of all, the reformation and almost transformation, into the living image and likeness of God, —this mind by misusing its freedom reaches the degree of total moral depravity.

Does the community know this criminal? He sits at the friendly board and fireside; he goes to their places of worship; he takes his victim by the hand, and all the time claims the power and carries the will to stab to the heart, to take character and life from this friend who gives him his hand in full trust, and has perhaps toiled and suffered to benefit and bless him.

What are some of the methods of this evil, this satan let loose? What are some of the means through which these mental assassins effect their purposes? To alienate friends, to divide households, to make people sick and sinners; these are their common instrumentalities.

Their methods of operation are to infuse silently into the thoughts of those they wish to use as instruments, a false sense of the individual selected as their victim. Long acquaintance, tried fidelity, experiences that have knit hearts together, all become as nothing before these endeavors. The mind of the individual on whom they thus operate is filled with hatred of the dearest friend, is made incapable of a just judgment of this friend. Prior knowledge of him seems to be obscured, put out, annihilated, and a new image of thought to be created,—one idea of individual character to be lost and another one formed, in the mind of him whom they would cause to hate his friend.

In this dilemma of thought, they get the audible falsehood into his mind, tell him how his friend has slandered him, is trying to injure him. If he is a Scientist they then say to him, "Mr. Smith," or "Mrs. Jones is preventing your success in healing patients, or is making your family sick, and the only way you can meet this is to take the case up, and to treat your patients against Mrs. Jones' mental malpractice; if you can destroy your patients' fear of Mrs. Jones, or can choke her off by any means however foul, you are conscientiously bound to do it, and of two evils this is choosing the least." There may be a hundred or more operators all set at work at this very job, to kill Mrs. Jones, or to save their patients or themselves, according as the directing malevolence may dictate. The said Jones is all the while as unconscious of this conspiracy as the unborn babe. The mental assassins are morally responsible for the consequences, and God alone can save her life from the fatal effects of this malice aforethought of the first party, and the culpable blindness of the second, whom they have misguided.

When the work of the mental assassin culminates, and the victim falls, the doctors are consulted and call it heart disease or some other "visitation of God," and thus they try to carry the age along on their deceptions.

This criminal practice, this "wickedness in high places," has accumulated in subtilty of method until it culminates at this period in "spiritual wickedness" and poses its power to do evil against the spiritual power in Christian Science to demonstrate good. When first denounced by me "from the housetops," in Science and Health thirteen years ago, the revelation was received with incredulity, with derision, with pity. Today Scientists are learning, and the general public is experiencing more and more, the terrible realities of mental malpractice and assassination.

It is no longer possible to keep still concerning these things,— nay, it is criminal to hold silence and to cover crime that grows bolder and picks off its victims as sharpshooters pick off the officers of an attacking force.

These secret, heaven-defying enormities must be proclaimed, or we become guilty before God as accessory after the fact. If a friend were fallen upon and maltreated or murdered before our eyes, should we hold ourselves guiltless,—should we count ourselves men and women,—if we buried the secret of the violence and our knowledge of the assassins?

Are we such cowards, knowing the facts that we do know, as to turn and run? Shall we see the evil, the deadly danger that threatens our brother and to hide ourselves, flee away not warning him?

The Science of mind uncovers to Scientists secret sin, even more distinctly than so-called physical crimes are visible to the personal senses; crime is always veiled in obscurity, but Science fastens guilt upon its author through mind, with the certainty and directness of the eye of God himself.

Human laws will eventually be framed for these criminals that now go unwhipped of human justice. Human law even now recognizes crime as mental, for it seeks always the motive; rude counterfeit as it is of Divine Justice, it metes out punishment or pardons, according as it finds or finds not the evil intent, the mental element. The time has come for instructing human justice so that these secret criminals shall tremble before the omnipotent finger that points them out to the human executioner.

This is not an invitation to promiscuous denunciation. The time is not ripe for that, but God tells us now to uncover this wickedness, to expose its methods, to accumulate the evidences of its enormities. The human mind must be instructed by facts, taught how to recognize the signs of these secret crimes as they are worked on individuals, and also the method of self protection, the antidotes found only in Divine Science.

God has bidden me to uncover this wickedness, and I follow His voice. Let all Scientists aid in this work, first, by bringing out in their reports on the practice of healing, careful statements of the facts of malicious animal magnetism that are daily passing before their eyes. I am not inviting them to indiscriminating condemnation, but to bring out such facts as have come within their own field of observation.

I have put on paper enough to reveal criminal magnetism, and to meet its developments for time to come, when my voice will be no longer heard. But God does not let us wait. He tells us to denounce now, some of the crimes of malicious mind, and to teach as fully as the age can bear and as the developments of this crime demand, its methods and their unfailing antidote.

I will now answer some questions that correspondents have asked me, concerning my teaching of and ways of dealing with, malicious animal magnetism.

One correspondent asks, "Do I teach the same with regard to mesmerism to all my students?"

My answer is, I do, in substance the same; the manner of expressing my thoughts may vary, but never the idea. Every student who has been through my class understands fully how to handle the ignorant animal magnetism, termed sickness, and latterly, I have taught as fully as God has allowed, how to deal with the malicious element. He tells me now to meet its growing wickedness by fuller revelations.

"Do I approve of treating personally for malicious mesmerism the offending malpractitioner, even when the malpractitioner is attempting to kill some one, and Scientists know it? Shall they treat the offender personally?"

I answer, if they do treat thus, they prolong their own undertaking. The altitude of Christian Science is Omnipotence. Truth is given us for this purpose,—to destroy error and make man free in the impersonal Christ.

"Do I employ students to do the work I have not the time to do?" in other words, in trying to injure fellow beings.

I could commit suicide sooner than do that; I have laid upon the altar too much for my fellow mortals, to undo my life work, and now turn to injure them. The very misguided ones, the deluded ones who would constrain others to believe this for my hurt, know better. These deceivers are under a demoniacal spell. May God open their eyes and save them from future condemnation.

https://journal.christianscience.com/shared/view/fup3sf2nok
I studied about the cult a while back.
This is a good refresher. They had a Reading Room downtown for decades. I never saw anyone in there through the picture window walking by.... that's good.
Mary Baker Eddy sure was a demon inspired. She had nothing in common with Christianity. I'm surprised there were so many followers .
 

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I studied about the cult a while back.
This is a good refresher. They had a Reading Room downtown for decades. I never saw anyone in there through the picture window walking by.... that's good.
Mary Baker Eddy sure was a demon inspired. She had nothing in common with Christianity. I'm surprised there were so many followers .
Adults make their choices. What I think is wrong and must be stopped is when their false beliefs put their children in their graves. 😡

There's one town where in the tiny stone markers are bare. No names so no one knows what family let their babies perish from something that penicillin or an aspirin could have cured.
Demonic and ignorant. How do they miss the OT passages that tell them God created herbs for our meat, medicine? And inspired the human intellect to be physicians, surgeons.

Babies pay the price for their demonic ignorance.
And Hell is waiting.
 

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Adults make their choices. What I think is wrong and must be stopped is when their false beliefs put their children in their graves. 😡

There's one town where in the tiny stone markers are bare. No names so no one knows what family let their babies perish from something that penicillin or an aspirin could have cured.
Demonic and ignorant. How do they miss the OT passages that tell them God created herbs for our meat, medicine? And inspired the human intellect to be physicians, surgeons.

Babies pay the price for their demonic ignorance.
And Hell is waiting.
That's why they and their parents need this
Good news.
 
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As a teacher, what is the most shocking thing you've heard a student say?
I kid you not. I overheard this conversation between some of my high school students.
Student 1: Did you just hear what he said?
Student 2: No, what?
Student 1: He said he’s going to Hawaii this summer.
Student 2: Okay?
Student 1: This SUMMER!
Student 2: I don’t get it.
Student 1: You can’t fly to Hawaii in the summer. The sun is too hot. The plane will blow up.
Student 2: I didn’t even think about that. Maybe they’re going to drive.
 

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Worked at 4 movie theaters and Blockbuster (It was like a big Redbox store).5y

As a teacher, what is the most shocking thing you've heard a student say?
I kid you not. I overheard this conversation between some of my high school students.
Student 1: Did you just hear what he said?
Student 2: No, what?
Student 1: He said he’s going to Hawaii this summer.
Student 2: Okay?
Student 1: This SUMMER!
Student 2: I don’t get it.
Student 1: You can’t fly to Hawaii in the summer. The sun is too hot. The plane will blow up.
Student 2: I didn’t even think about that. Maybe they’re going to drive.
Must be flat earthers. 😆