Why Do We Pretend to know when JESUS was BORN?

This is true for ALL of us, not one individual. He makes a lot of good points, but I think sometimes he likes to take things to the extreme... but I know a LOT of people that do that. I think he and I agree on more than we disagree on....
and I would NEVER accuse someone of being dead to grace..... that is not my call to make... it's WAY above our pay grade.

Jesus knew who was of the Devil when he judged the Pharisee's being of their father the Devil.

Yes. That was Jesus.
The problem with "righteous judgment" is that it so often becomes self-righteous judgment.
It is not the place of believers to establish the salvation status of other believers.

Status, no.
That's not what my observation concerned.

Jesus Christ could read hearts. We cannot. For us, it should be enough to say, I believe XYZ and here are verses ABC why I do.

Jesus Christ alone can read hearts:

Jer 17:10 “I the LORD search the heart and examine the mind, to reward each person according to their conduct, according to what their deeds deserve.”

Rev 2:23: "... I am the One who searches minds and hearts, and I will repay each of you according to your deeds."

There is no scriptural support for celebrating our birthdays either, but I wish you a happy WillB-mas anyway.

So please do tell me what is the basis for celebrating your birthday?

I found nothing in the Anglican doctrine statements that requires any celebration of any kind.
The earlist writings we have concerning the celebration of Christmas dates to 336 ad. This writing is a letter that casually refers to the Christmas celebration. It reads as if the intended reader would know exactly what was being spoken of and therefore implies that it was common practice. Christmas hate began in the puritan circles in about the 1600s and was banned in 1644. But they didnt mind murdering folks they didnt like, accusing them of witchery and then burn them alive. (Much like the RCC, they made up rules to control folks' life and if they didnt adhere murder them). In my opinion that excludes them from setting christian standards.
As for what celebrating is found in the Bible. I find Angels, shepards, and wise men celebrating the incarnation of God on earth in Human flesh.
As for what you find the disciples doing; i dont find them setting in pews, or using hymnals, or pianoes or organs, nor rock bands playing soft rock as praise music, nor pulpits, or stages, or fellowship halls or childrens church or sunday school, or bible study or alter calls, also ya dont find personal Bibles. Also you see no examples of communing women. So lets skip the arguments from silence.
I know you dont really care what i have to say amd that it wont change your mind. Im only writing this for the sake of others who may read it.

I can certainly see the validity of that argument... I don't agree with it, personally, but I can see how one could understand it that way.
There are other scriptures that hint/indicate that the early church partook in it more frequently.
Where we often run aground is the term "break bread".... it was used interchangeably for a regular meal, and for the communion.
The apostolic fathers pretty much unanimously wrote about the brethren gathering together to "break bread" on the first day of the week.... and many scholars agree that in most cases, they were describing communion.

and, the instruction of "as often as you do this...." leads me to think that we could, if we wished, partake of communion EVERY day.
In fact, at least one of the apostolic fathers indicated that was his practice....

For me, the bottom line is... we NEED to "commune" with each other and with God, remembering the sacrifice that our Lord and savior made for us. How much of that would be too much? Is once a year often enough to proclaim Jesus' death to the rest of the world?

The limited number of them that I have left.

You'll never find a time RA isn't willing to argue. I think he sees it as a gift. smh

Okay. A purely personal emotional need with no basis in Scripture...much like the emotional need for a Santa Claus and feelgood.

But as Marx said - Groucho, not Karl - there ain't no Sanity Clause.

WB: None of which supports the worldview of celebrating Christmas.

Another forum member has tacitly admitted there's no Scriptural support for Jesus and His apostles and early disciples celebrating Christmas and that the earliest record is 336 AD. Whether the Early Church Fathers celebrated that festival - IF that is the case and maybe it's the case they didn't or maybe only some did - is not the issue. The only thing that counts is truth.

The Lord's Evening Meal/Supper was instituted for the purpose of the New Covenant by none other than Jesus Christ Himself to replace the old covenant and IF He wanted His followers to celebrate His birthday I will dare to say He would have instituted that festival. But he didn't.

Okay. A purely personal emotional need with no basis in Scripture...much like the emotional need for a Santa Claus and feelgood.

Glad to read God's Word at any time. But that also has nothing to do with the subject of Christmas trees. There is nothing wrong with having a Christmas tree, nothing Biblically against it. If you don't partake that is up to you. But there is nothing in the Word that forbids it.





Yeah again, amen to the Word but maybe stop twisting it so badly out of context. It has nothing to do with the tree.

All this Santa-bashing is going to cost you some friends.

He is a good guy. He is doctrinally; fairly sound. He is very allergic to organized religion especially the RCC. Which is understandable, for uncountable reasons.