BIDEN PROMOTES TRANSGENDER SURGERY FOR CHILDREN

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presidente

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President Biden is not "advocating" for "transgender surgery" he is "advocating" to make it available for people who are in fact transgender and who after appropriate counselling and being certified as appropriate for the procedure, decide to proceed. For minors this necessarily involves their parents/guardians.
The medical and psychological community have obviously been influenced by this strange herd mentality. If someone thinks the sex their body is does not match their mind, the problem is in their mind.

God made them and female. A man who has his genitals partly removed and partly reshaped to look like a woman's he is still a man. A woman who has her genitals medically disfigured to look like a man's, she is still a woman.
 
In your opinion. A very simplistic analysis. What the science of epigenetics is indicating is that our sense of our sexual identity and our sexual orientation are very much affected by epigenetic influences on our genes before we are even borne. People can be borne with a specific physical gender and have a conflicting sense of their sexuality. This can lead to great stress and unhappiness in their lives and even suicide. The bible doesnt even pretend to deal with this as it was written by people who had little or no understanding of such things thousands of years ago.
And to say that the government is "encouraging" children to change their physical sexuality for some sinister purpose is plain and simple an unfounded lie. People need to open their minds, to read and educate themselves and learn and not just make silly unfounded statements that encourage fear and hatred.
 

presidente

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Your view of what is sin in this context is fully without justification. We could argue forever and you would not educate yourself or allow yourself to understand the issue. You likely also believe that there is a cadre of pedophiles in the Democrat party who are being monitored by an unknown person called "Q". So no sense trying to have a rational discussion. G'day.
I know someone caught up into the Q conspiracy.

Not everyone who is not a crazy left wing nut case is a right wing Q nut case.

Left-wingers who think there are trans gendered people out there who should have sex change operations and that these operations should be done to children are just as out there on the ideological fringe as Q-Anon conspiracy theorists, maybe worse. They also add fuel to the fire for the right wing conspiracy theorists. In a world where hundreds of thousands or millions of people think this sex change stuff is okay, why couldn't there be mainstream politicians taking adreniline from Satanic sacrifice victim's blood to make a drug? It's only slightly more unlikely.
 

presidente

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In your opinion. A very simplistic analysis. What the science of epigenetics is indicating is that our sense of our sexual identity and our sexual orientation are very much affected by epigenetic influences on our genes before we are even borne. People can be borne with a specific physical gender and have a conflicting sense of their sexuality. This can lead to great stress and unhappiness in their lives and even suicide.
Those who go through with the surgery (male to female that is) have much higher suicide rates, which is not evidence that surgery is a good idea. If someone has this surgery, their sex does not really change. They just have a surgery that makes it look like their sex changed. Thecells throughouta man's body still say he is a man after the surgery, all throughout his DNA. Same with a woman.

Pumping a man, for example, full of female hormones isn't good for his health. Rates for various diseases increase.

If a man has an operation to look like a woman, and wants to dress like a woman, that's an abomination to God. If he wants to have a relationship and marry, what woman wants to marry a man who had his private parts basically removed? how could they consummate the marriage? What is the other option/ A homosexual relationship with another man. Men having sex with men is sinful.

The bible doesnt even pretend to deal with this as it was written by people who had little or no understanding of such things thousands of years ago.
The Bible addresses the issue of cross-dressing, saying it is an abomination to the Lord. It also teaches that a man should not lie with a man as one does witha woman.

And to say that the government is "encouraging" children to change their physical sexuality for some sinister purpose is plain and simple an unfounded lie.
Several years ago, news reports came out about transgender promoters going into kindergartens in California telling little children their gender may not match their sex.

There are politicians who believe the evil idiocy you espouse. It's a sinister ideology, whether promoters of it are sincere or not. There were many people in Germany in the 1930's who were very sincere about ideologies being promoted at that time, but the ideology was quite dangerous for certain members of society. Some of these people were quiet enlightened. There was a mass herd mentality, with harmful ideas spreading throughout society.

This trans ideology is at odds with Christian teaching, and good common sense.




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Locoponydirtman

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Of course He does. The powers that be see "Brave New World" as a viable option, and seek to promote and build such a world.
 

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It's obvious and unfortunate that some people can't accept the individual's right to make his/her decision regarding their own bodies, Denial of this freedom is against God and the US Constitution.

People's bodies belong to => themselves <=, not to some external group which believes that they know what is best for others and then imposes their will on those people.
When we belong to God it is because we were bought for a price . That price was/is the Blood Of Jesus . We are not our own we are His.
 

presidente

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If the state lets doctors chop the genitals of children with mental illness or who picked up bad ideas from TikTok, the news, and educators with perverted minds, then to be consistent the state should not intervene when parents beat and abuse their children.

Most kids that are beaten are not damaged as badly as by those who engage in transgender medical quackery. And how is removing or radically reshaping a child's private parts not considered a form of sexual abuse? The state will prosecute perverted parents who molest their own children, so why shouldn't it arrest and imprison doctors who sexually abuse children with their surgeries?

I hear the pioneer of transgender surgeries, Dr. John Money did not consider adults having sex with minors to be a bad thing.
 
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When we belong to God it is because we were bought for a price . That price was/is the Blood Of Jesus . We are not our own we are His.
While this is true of Christians, a) not everyone is a Christian and b) that is not the subject being discussed. Do you have anything to say about the thread's topic?
 
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If the state lets doctors chop the genitals of children with mental illness or who picked up bad ideas from TikTok, the news, and educators with perverted minds, then to be consistent the state should not intervene when parents beat and abuse their children.

Most kids that are beaten are not damaged as badly as by those who engage in transgender medical quackery. And how is removing or radically reshaping a child's private parts not considered a form of sexual abuse? The state will prosecute perverted parents who molest their own children, so why shouldn't it arrest and imprison doctors who sexually abuse children with their surgeries?

I hear the pioneer of transgender surgeries, Dr. John Money did not consider adults having sex with minors to be a bad thing.
Okay, I will put you on ignore. You are making no sense.
 
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Parents love their children. Strangers do not. Love means saying "no" sometimes to things that are harmful. Strangers don't care if you ruin your life - irreversibly - by mutilating your own God-given body parts, a decision you may regret forever, and about which you can never ever do anything about after you once did it. Since God is our Loving Father, He says: "No" to such things. God made us male and female from the beginning. Science says every woman has XX Chromosomes and every man has XY chromosomes. Even if you do attempt to change your genitals, you won't change who you really are, even genetically.
 

Beckie

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While this is true of Christians, a) not everyone is a Christian and b) that is not the subject being discussed. Do you have anything to say about the thread's topic?
It's obvious and unfortunate that some people can't accept the individual's right to make his/her decision regarding their own bodies, Denial of this freedom is against God and the US Constitution.

People's bodies belong to => themselves <=, not to some external group which believes that they know what is best for others and then imposes their will on those people.
My post is very much on topic and a clear reply to your post. You posted a very general statement about people .
I do not believe you to be a follower of Christ. (Phrase that how ever ) Your posts show a very low value of God's Word. You praise ungodly practices.
 

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The common opinion is that transgenders cannot come from a Christian home. I guess this particular sin is somehow different than all the other sins. While divorce, adultery, lust, excessive drinking or gambling, lying, stealing, blaspheming, all can come such faithful homes, somehow this sin cannot.
I think that presumptuous to say what you claim is commonly believed by Christians regarding Transsexuals.

Whereas it is contrary to our faith to encourage, enable, approve, and ignore the mental illness that afflicts person's as Body Dysmorphoc Disorder. I. E Body Dysphoria, Aka, Transsexuality.

A Christian should enable and encourage what God abhors and condemns?

We should enable, encourage, fasciliitate, healing and treatment.
Anything less is betrayal of our suffering family members spiritual , mental and physical health and balance.

Where in God's word are we instructed to tolerate what God condemns and calls abomination?
We're oppose gay marriage but defend Transsexuality?
 

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In your opinion. A very simplistic analysis. What the science of epigenetics is indicating is that our sense of our sexual identity and our sexual orientation are very much affected by epigenetic influences on our genes before we are even borne. People can be borne with a specific physical gender and have a conflicting sense of their sexuality. This can lead to great stress and unhappiness in their lives and even suicide. The bible doesnt even pretend to deal with this as it was written by people who had little or no understanding of such things thousands of years ago.
And to say that the government is "encouraging" children to change their physical sexuality for some sinister purpose is plain and simple an unfounded lie. People need to open their minds, to read and educate themselves and learn and not just make silly unfounded statements that encourage fear and hatred.
Sin is sin is sin, and has been since the creation of mankind. Semantics and "certain understandings" and "modern knowledge" don't change this reality. This is not directed at any one person. We ALL have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. We ALL have been fooled by the evil one at one time or another. There is a reason we call him the master of lies.
Love to all.
 

presidente

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@lizzie2021 I am curious if a few years back you would have posted oas something like Lex2018. Do you troll the Internet looking for forums discussing trans issues and post on the threads?
 
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Locoponydirtman

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People who support this stuff have a problem processing good sense and plain reason.
Part of the problem is that many are educated out of critical thinking.
Many of the arguements i have seen are merely about personal liberty. However personal liberty is alway subject to the harm done to the community at large. So complete egalitarianism is not functional with in a community. The classic example of shouting "fire" in a crowded area. We also dont allow the use of heroin or people to be intoxicated in public. This the same reason we do not cater to mental disorders.
 

Beckie

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In your opinion. A very simplistic analysis. What the science of epigenetics is indicating is that our sense of our sexual identity and our sexual orientation are very much affected by epigenetic influences on our genes before we are even borne. People can be borne with a specific physical gender and have a conflicting sense of their sexuality. This can lead to great stress and unhappiness in their lives and even suicide. The bible doesnt even pretend to deal with this as it was written by people who had little or no understanding of such things thousands of years ago.
And to say that the government is "encouraging" children to change their physical sexuality for some sinister purpose is plain and simple an unfounded lie. People need to open their minds, to read and educate themselves and learn and not just make silly unfounded statements that encourage fear and hatred.
Psa_111:10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do his commandments: his praise endureth for ever.
Pro_1:7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.