Woman Arrested for Silent Prayer

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Magenta

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Also I think judges should start holding police officers in contempt of court when they bring people into court on some nonsense charges
The police in the UK were enforcing the laws of the land...
 

montana123

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Christians will be vilified just as the Jews were in WWII.

18 I will love thee, O Lord, my strength. 2 The Lord is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer; my God, my strength, in whom I will trust; my buckler, and the horn of my salvation, and my high tower.

Call upon the Lord

3 I will call upon the Lord, who is worthy to be praised: so shall I be saved from mine enemies.

That is how you will be saved

4 The sorrows of death compassed me, and the floods of ungodly men made me afraid. 5 The sorrows of hell compassed me about: the snares of death prevented me. 6 In my distress I called upon the Lord, and cried unto my God: he heard my voice out of his temple, and my cry came before him, even into his ears.

God will hear in His temple.

7 Then the earth shook and trembled; the foundations also of the hills moved and were shaken, because he was wroth. 8 There went up a smoke out of his nostrils, and fire out of his mouth devoured: coals were kindled by it. 9 He bowed the heavens also, and came down: and darkness was under his feet.

Uh oh, now y'all in trouble!

10 And he rode upon a cherub, and did fly: yea, he did fly upon the wings of the wind. 11 He made darkness his secret place; his pavilion round about him were dark waters and thick clouds of the skies. 12 At the brightness that was before him his thick clouds passed, hail stones and coals of fire. 13 The Lord also thundered in the heavens, and the Highest gave his voice; hail stones and coals of fire.

Hail stones and coals of fire, nice combination!

14 Yea, he sent out his arrows, and scattered them; and he shot out lightnings, and discomfited them. 15 Then the channels of waters were seen, and the foundations of the world were discovered at thy rebuke, O Lord, at the blast of the breath of thy nostrils. 16 He sent from above, he took me, he drew me out of many waters. 17 He delivered me from my strong enemy, and from them which hated me: for they were too strong for me.

Yes, the rapture is Biblical

18 They prevented me in the day of my calamity: but the Lord was my stay. 19 He brought me forth also into a large place; he delivered me, because he delighted in me. 20 The Lord rewarded me according to my righteousness; according to the cleanness of my hands hath he recompensed me. 21 For I have kept the ways of the Lord, and have not wickedly departed from my God.

This is a test, will you keep the ways of the Lord or will you wickedly depart?

22 For all his judgments were before me, and I did not put away his statutes from me. 23 I was also upright before him, and I kept myself from mine iniquity.

Will you focus on His word or allow the world to mess with your mind.

24 Therefore hath the Lord recompensed me according to my righteousness, according to the cleanness of my hands in his eyesight. 25 With the merciful thou wilt shew thyself merciful; with an upright man thou wilt shew thyself upright; 26 With the pure thou wilt shew thyself pure; and with the froward thou wilt shew thyself froward.

As you have done it will be done to you.

27 For thou wilt save the afflicted people; but wilt bring down high looks. 28 For thou wilt light my candle: the Lord my God will enlighten my darkness. 29 For by thee I have run through a troop; and by my God have I leaped over a wall.

Into the battle my brothers, let's run through a troop! Let's leap over a wall! Let's show up in heaven with a testimony!

30 As for God, his way is perfect: the word of the Lord is tried: he is a buckler to all those that trust in him. 31 For who is God save the Lord? or who is a rock save our God? 32 It is God that girdeth me with strength, and maketh my way perfect. 33 He maketh my feet like hinds' feet, and setteth me upon my high places. 34 He teacheth my hands to war, so that a bow of steel is broken by mine arms. 35 Thou hast also given me the shield of thy salvation: and thy right hand hath holden me up, and thy gentleness hath made me great. 36 Thou hast enlarged my steps under me, that my feet did not slip.

Wow, so much to learn from the Lord!

37 I have pursued mine enemies, and overtaken them: neither did I turn again till they were consumed. 38 I have wounded them that they were not able to rise: they are fallen under my feet. 39 For thou hast girded me with strength unto the battle: thou hast subdued under me those that rose up against me. 40 Thou hast also given me the necks of mine enemies; that I might destroy them that hate me. 41 They cried, but there was none to save them: even unto the Lord, but he answered them not. 42 Then did I beat them small as the dust before the wind: I did cast them out as the dirt in the streets.

Wow, so much better than being a doormat.

43 Thou hast delivered me from the strivings of the people; and thou hast made me the head of the heathen: a people whom I have not known shall serve me. 44 As soon as they hear of me, they shall obey me: the strangers shall submit themselves unto me. 45 The strangers shall fade away, and be afraid out of their close places. 46 The Lord liveth; and blessed be my rock; and let the God of my salvation be exalted. 47 It is God that avengeth me, and subdueth the people under me. 48 He delivereth me from mine enemies: yea, thou liftest me up above those that rise up against me: thou hast delivered me from the violent man. 49 Therefore will I give thanks unto thee, O Lord, among the heathen, and sing praises unto thy name. 50 Great deliverance giveth he to his king; and sheweth mercy to his anointed, to David, and to his seed for evermore.

Thank you Lord! You are the lion of the tribe of Judah.
Christians will be vilified for the people who are now influencing and will influence the world interpret the Bible according to the occult and evolution, and people are still evolving to be spiritual, and there is no personal God.

They say that Jesus is an ascended master and was genetically born a woman and transgendered to be a man.

They say the next evolutionary step will begin in the United States in the 21st century and the new age movement is the next evolutionary step to become enlightened to evolve along with the New Age Christ.

But there are many people that are against Christianity that are not following the new age movement but will eventually follow it.

People are becoming more and more arrogant and self exalting and wanting to have their own way.

Which the time will come they will not want to hear the truth of the Bible but hear it according to their own lusts which will happen when the new age movement is the standard religion in the world with all religions interpreted by them.

They will not allow anything to be taught contrary to the new age movement or it will be a hate crime and they will say it is not the truth and they want peace.
 

Magenta

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They say that Jesus is an ascended master and was genetically born a woman and transgendered to be a man.
Hadn't heard that one before :eek: Who are the "they" who says that? :unsure:
 

montana123

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Hadn't heard that one before :eek: Who are the "they" who says that? :unsure:
The LGBTQ believes it for it supports them which at a gay pride event they portrayed Jesus as a transgender.

God reached into Adam, pulled out a bit of rib bone, and grew Eve from that XY DNA into Adam's companion. She was created genetically male, and yet trans-formed into woman.

Then along comes Jesus and the whole pattern is both repeated and reversed. The first couple's refusal to cooperate is turned around by Mary's yes, and the second act of cloning occurs. The Holy Spirit comes upon the second Eve, and the child takes flesh from her and is born. Born of her flesh. Born with XX chromosome pairing. Born genetically female, and yet trans-formed into man.
 

ZNP

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The LGBTQ believes it for it supports them which at a gay pride event they portrayed Jesus as a transgender.

God reached into Adam, pulled out a bit of rib bone, and grew Eve from that XY DNA into Adam's companion. She was created genetically male, and yet trans-formed into woman.

Then along comes Jesus and the whole pattern is both repeated and reversed. The first couple's refusal to cooperate is turned around by Mary's yes, and the second act of cloning occurs. The Holy Spirit comes upon the second Eve, and the child takes flesh from her and is born. Born of her flesh. Born with XX chromosome pairing. Born genetically female, and yet trans-formed into man.
Wow, you were there! Well why didn't you tell us!
 

HealthAndHappiness

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The police in the UK were enforcing the laws of the land...
True. The police there wouldn't arrest the lady if the judges chewed them out and gave punitive damages out of the pockets of enforcers to the defense. They are all in the same game to make money at the expense of her ancestors who died to regain freedoms.

Last report with "fact checker"
 

Encouragement

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The LGBTQ believes it for it supports them which at a gay pride event they portrayed Jesus as a transgender.

God reached into Adam, pulled out a bit of rib bone, and grew Eve from that XY DNA into Adam's companion. She was created genetically male, and yet trans-formed into woman.

Then along comes Jesus and the whole pattern is both repeated and reversed. The first couple's refusal to cooperate is turned around by Mary's yes, and the second act of cloning occurs. The Holy Spirit comes upon the second Eve, and the child takes flesh from her and is born. Born of her flesh. Born with XX chromosome pairing. Born genetically female, and yet trans-formed into man.
My goodness that's just crazy.I guess with today's perspective on transgender ect..it may sound plausible to them..but it's totally not that kind of dynamic in which eve came into existence nor jesus...
 

ZNP

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She was trying to get arrested. She got what she wanted.
Yep, just like this guy.

10 Now when Daniel knew that the writing was signed, he went into his house; and his windows being open in his chamber toward Jerusalem, he kneeled upon his knees three times a day, and prayed, and gave thanks before his God, as he did aforetime.
 

ResidentAlien

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We wrestle not against flesh and blood. This woman could have accomplished just as much if she would've gone into her house and prayed to the Lord. I'm as concerned as anyone about abortion, but getting arrested is just folly in my opinion.
 

ZNP

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We wrestle not against flesh and blood. This woman could have accomplished just as much if she would've gone into her house and prayed to the Lord. I'm as concerned as anyone about abortion, but getting arrested is just folly in my opinion.
I agree, that is just your opinion.

Two days ago I was handing out bibles at a food give away. I told everyone the good news. I told them this woman was arrested in England for praying, the police came up to her asked her what she was doing, she said she was standing there, they asked if she was praying, she said she might be, and so they arrested her and took her off in handcuffs because in England it is illegal to pray outside of an abortion clinic. The good news is that it is still legal to pray in the US.

We handed out 486 English bibles and 90 Spanish. That is a new record for us. It used to be 20-30% of people were not interested, the other day it was closer to 1%.
 

shittim

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That is wonderful to hear! He really is calling His own to Him.
Thank you and blessings to you for your work for His kingdom.:):unsure:(y):coffee:
 

maxwel

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This woman could have accomplished just as much if she would've gone into her house and prayed to the Lord. ... getting arrested is just folly in my opinion.
Imagine a policeman walks up to you on the street, and says, "Whacha thinkin about?"
And then you say something.
And then the officer says, "I don't like you thinking about that, we'll have to arrest you."

That is precisely what happened.

They arrested her for a silent thought crime, inside her own head.
This goes far beyond religious liberties, or religious issues... this is a literal example of thought police.



Or let me put it a different way:
Perhaps we should interrogate you, about all of your private thoughts.... and then when we find a thought we don't like... we should arrest you.


I'm not trying to be unkind... I just think we might benefit from reflection and reconsideration... both of the tangible cicumstances, as well as the ramifications.
Both are appalling and dystopian.



Take care, and I hope you have a great week.

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ResidentAlien

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Imagine a policeman walks up to you on the street, and says, "Whacha thinkin about?"
And then you say something.
And then the officer says, "I don't like you thinking about that, we'll have to arrest you."

That is precisely what happened.


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What happened was she went to a place where she knew she had no business and started praying. She wanted to get arrested and that's exactly what happened. Otherwise she would've made up something: Oh, I was just enjoying the lovely weather today; or, I was waiting for someone but they never showed, I'll be going now.
 

shittim

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If you understood the indwelling Christ you would not have posted that.
 

ZNP

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What happened was she went to a place where she knew she had no business and started praying.
Did you watch the link? She was on a public sidewalk. How can you say "she had no business there? The police did not arrest her for trespassing. They did not say she had no right to be on that sidewalk, so you are making up offenses that do not exist.

She wanted to get arrested and that's exactly what happened.
Now you are claiming to be omniscient and knowing her motive. You are not God and pretending to be is the same thing Satan did resulting in his downfall.

Otherwise she would've made up something: Oh, I was just enjoying the lovely weather today; or, I was waiting for someone but they never showed, I'll be going now.
Now you are saying she should have made up a lie? Again, Satan is the liar.
 

maxwel

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What happened was she went to a place where she knew she had no business and started praying. She wanted to get arrested and that's exactly what happened. Otherwise she would've made up something: Oh, I was just enjoying the lovely weather today; or, I was waiting for someone but they never showed, I'll be going now.
1.) I think your claim to have perfect knowledge of all her thoughts and motives would require you to be a mind reader.

2.) I'm baffled by the phrase "a place where she knew she had no business".... as if a free citizen in the U.K. cannot move about freely and go wherever she pleases.

3.) Conclusion: in the final analysis, even if she did go there on purpose to see if she'd get arrested (which we have no proof of at this time) she would still have EVERY RIGHT TO DO SO... and perhaps even a civic obligation.

a. She's a free citizen in her country, and she can go where she pleases.
b. She's a free citizen in her country, and she's allowed to have her own private thoughts in her own head.
c. Arresting her for exercising her most basic rights, like moving about, and having private thoughts... is a travesty, and it should be challenged and exposed for the insane tyranny that it is.
d. I'm not a political activist, but one could argue it's even our civic duty to challenge tyrannical laws that usurp our more foundational laws, like our basic human rights. A case can easily be made that if civic duties exist at all... then this would be one of them.
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ZNP

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1.) I think your claim to have perfect knowledge of all her thoughts and motives would require you to be a mind reader.

2.) I'm baffled by the phrase "a place where she knew she had no business".... as if a free citizen in the U.K. cannot move about freely and go wherever she pleases.

3.) Conclusion: in the final analysis, even if she did go there on purpose to see if she'd get arrested (which we have no proof of at this time) she would still have EVERY RIGHT TO DO SO... and perhaps even a civic obligation.

a. She's a free citizen in her country, and she can go where she pleases.
b. She's a free citizen in her country, and she's allowed to have her own private thoughts in her own head.
c. Arresting her for exercising her most basic rights, like moving about, and having private thoughts... is a travesty, and it should be challenged and exposed for the insane tyranny that it is.
d. I'm not a political activist, but one could argue it's even our civic duty to challenge tyrannical laws that usurp our more foundational laws, like our basic human rights. A case can easily be made that if civic duties exist at all... then this would be one of them.
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I would also point out this had been her habit for years and most likely the law was made at least in part with her in mind.
 

Cameron143

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I would also point out this had been her habit for years and most likely the law was made at least in part with her in mind.
Remind anyone of somebody who spent some time in a den?
 

Magenta

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God reached into Adam, pulled out a bit of rib bone, and grew Eve from that XY DNA into
Adam's companion. She was created genetically male, and yet trans-formed into woman.
:oops:

Male and female He created them. Genesis 5:2a