Revelation 6:1

Hello everybody my name is stan and I didn’t want to beat around the bush and go around other peoples threads to get my message out. So here it is this is where I believe we are in history right now which is not a trial run this is the real deal. We are at the end generation, and to follow it in the Bible is proof beyond a doubt who is in control. I believe this is the time of teaching and learning before the antichrist shows up, which should be very shortly according to the Bible. Right now God has put a stupor of confusion and babble over the people of the world which will drive most to insanity. They won’t realize or understand who is actually telling them the truth they’ll just figure everybody’s a liar. Put your armor of God on every day, every minute, protect your soul. I just want people to know we’re all on the same team I will disagree with people, but only biblical not personal

Welcome to CC, Stan.

It does seem that we are in the Laodicean (end-time) age of apostacy. The Bible tells us how the world around us came to be in a babbling stupor...
Romans 1:21
“Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.”

Glad to be on the same team, brother.
Godspeed.

Hi Stach. What do you believe the rider on the white horse in Revelation 6:1 represents?

you know the first four seals opened from the book that was sealed ?

For the house of Israel and the house of Judah have dealt very treacherously against me, saith the LORD. They have belied the LORD, and said, It is not he; neither shall evil come upon us; neither shall we see sword nor famine: and the prophets shall become wind, and the word is not in them: thus shall it be done unto them.”
‭‭Jeremiah‬ ‭5:11-13‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“they shall die of grievous deaths; they shall not be lamented; neither shall they be buried; but they shall be as dung upon the face of the earth: and they shall be consumed by the sword, and by famine; and their carcases shall be meat for the fowls of heaven, and for the beasts of the earth.”

‭‭Jeremiah‬ ‭16:4‬ ‭

“And I will send the sword, the famine, and the pestilence, among them, till they be consumed from off the land that I gave unto them and to their fathers.”

‭‭Jeremiah‬ ‭24:10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“For thus saith the Lord GOD; How much more when I send my four sore judgments upon Jerusalem, the sword, and the famine, and the noisome beast, and the pestilence, to cut off from it man and beast?”
‭‭Ezekiel‬ ‭14:21‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“thus saith the LORD of hosts; Behold, I will send upon them the sword, the famine, and the pestilence, and will make them like vile figs, that cannot be eaten, they are so evil.”

‭‭Jeremiah‬ ‭29:17‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“The sword is without, and the pestilence and the famine within: he that is in the field shall die with the sword; and he that is in the city, famine and pestilence shall devour him.”

‭‭Ezekiel‬ ‭7:15‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“Why will ye die, thou and thy people, by the sword, by the famine, and by the pestilence, as the LORD hath spoken against the nation that will not serve the king of Babylon?”
‭‭Jeremiah‬ ‭27:13‬ ‭

“For I will punish them that dwell in the land of Egypt, as I have punished Jerusalem, by the sword, by the famine, and by the pestilence:”

‭‭Jeremiah‬ ‭44:13‬ ‭

“Therefore thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that prophesy in my name, and I sent them not, yet they say, Sword and famine shall not be in this land; By sword and famine shall those prophets be consumed.”

‭‭Jeremiah‬ ‭14:15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

those four judgements are Gods word from the law being fulfilled ‬‬as he was always warning them the sword , famine , pestilence would come and devour the earth because they broke the covenant

It’s why after the four seals are opened you then see the result

And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:“And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭6:11‬ ‭

revelation has a perpetual nature and not a linear timeline of events so those who are slain for Gods word and the testimony you see how and why they were slain later in the book

“And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:17‬ ‭KJV‬‬


The dragon makes war on the church and a beast rises up on the dragons image havin authority from the dragon to overcome and slaughter Gods people

“And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭13:7-8, 15-16‬ ‭KJ

that’s how they are being killed and arriving in heaven

And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭6:11‬

later because of how revelation overlaps and isn’t linear you see thier bictory over the beast and his mark they were killed because they wouldn’t worship the beast but they have victory in heaven

And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭15:2

a what I mean to say is we aren’t in any particular time or chapter of revelation because the book isn’t linear it’s filled with understanding or “ revelation “ of what Gods word said all along

Like the first four seals he opens the sword , famine , pestilence and death God was always warning the people of they didn’t repent he was going to devour the earth with the curses of the breaking of the law

“The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant. Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left.

Fear, and the pit, and the snare, are upon thee, O inhabitant of the earth. The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭24:5-6, 17, 20‬ ‭KJV‬‬

revaluation is a coherent uncovering of the mysteries in scripture the world is in that spiritual state described in the revelation

Welcome Stan…

I am not sure what Revelation 6 has to do with what you are stating…. So I will ask.

Are you stating we are living the events of Rev 6 …or drawing closer to that?


The antichrist is here and has been here since the first century…

Antichrist is used only 4x in 1Jo 2:18 &22, 1Jo 4:3, & 2Jo 1:7. And in the verse and context it explains who and what the antichrist is……. And I think you would agree …it is very prevalent today.

Anti is opposite and Christ means anointed which could reference a high priest or a king…. but we know the context of this references Jesus Christ.

Anti can be in mind or actions, and anti-Christ is supplementing Jesus Christ or the works of Jesus Christ for anything in the world ….being opposed to the Anointed.

Many times, when people reference the antichrist they have something else in mind …but since the word is thrown around so much it is made applicable to different things. Like the man of lawlessness or the wicked of (2Th 2:8). Some even associate it with the “departure” or“falling away” (2Th 2:3) which is either a disservice to the Word or a far reaching stretch.

I believe that is the warning of the coming of the antichrist, who will be fake and imposter of the real thing that is our first message to us that God wants us to hear. Remember, Jesus was the only one that can open up the seal.

I believe we are already in Revelation six number one it’s already been poured which is the truth that the antichrist will come first riding on a white horse and he is fake

I believe we are in revelation six the second seal has been open which is red war horse which is confusion and everything else a war brings. The next seal is a pale horse which represents famine because that’s what happens after a war everybody starves.

Thank you for responding….I kind of thought that was what you were indicating, but I wanted to make sure before I responded.

Here is my take on it, which you probably won’t agree with. And maybe I will post a simple graph that clarifies my position.

Revelation is future ….If we were in Revelation that would mean that the age or administration of Grace has ceased (terminated). That would make it very difficult to put on the armor of God since that is designed to equip the saint during this administration of grace. There is ample biblical evidence to show that when Revelation hits…. the body of Christ is not here.

Before you jump to the conclusion that I am a dispensationalist, I am not…. per se …. however, God is. He made the distinction for this period of time we are currently in….. the administration (dispensation) of grace. And by making that distinction you have to at least have two other’s ….one before and one after.

Revelation does not deal with the Church of God (body of Christ, or the one new man). So, if we are currently in the time of sorrows… nothing in the administration of grace will apply to us. Which includes salvation by grace, the 9 manifestation of the spirit, the gift ministries, having the spirit of God within…or being sanctified, justified, redeemed, and being made righteous via the new covenant. It’s not even a new ballgame in Revelation….. it’s an entirely new sport

Thank you for responding I just love talking about God and thank you for that. We are on the same team with the same destination if you are a Christian and in no way, do I want to interfere in that if I’m wrong. I am only human and I will be wrong please double check the word to approve or disapprove my credible conversations
Haven’t shared all that we have to look at current events. We have to look at the deadly wound that is about ready to be put into place on the New World order and that will bring the timing more relevant into versus I will give you. I am not just a one verse person. I have a lot of verses that will support my theory to where we are right now.
Please consider who is a deadly wound to and who will do it and who will fix it

If we're now in the second seal, then has the Antichrist (first seal) already been revealed? If so, who is it? I'm just trying to understand where you're coming from.

Welcome Stach, and it is certainly looking more and more like this. Looks like the "strong delusion" has come upon the unbelieving world, and even some Christians are departing from the faith and giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of demons. But we do not need to be deluded or afraid, because our Salvation draws nigh. Meaning the coming of Christ for His Bride.

Amen

My understanding he’s going to be a super natural person that could snap his fingers and lightning will show up. He’ll be able to even walk on water and he’ll call himself Jesus And watch the lost and saved follow him

None of the seals/birth pangs have been opened/started yet. Because the Church has yet to be raptured.

In fact it may be that Babylon (yes the actual city on the Euphrates) first needs to be rebuilt, and possibly the Magog invasion must happen. And possibly the "tribulation temple" in Jerusalem will need to be built first as well.

We could be looking at a decade or two. Nobody on earth knows for sure. Only the Father knows. And when it is time He tells the Son to pick up His bride. Then and only then do the seals begin to open.

No. The saved (tribulation saints and believing Israelites) will not be deceived.

well, that’s where we disagree. I am not going to be rapture no way i have a mission with the antichrist him and I (Holy Spirit ) are going to have a talk.

The first seal is very important it is to remind us that the antichrist is coming first
That’s all it is a reminder
The antichrist has not been thrown out of heaven yet by Micheal when he does, he will know it
The antichrist will not be thrown out until after the deadly wound. That’s why I ask everybody what is the deadly wound? Because if you know that you know he’s coming. The second seal is red, the Warhorse obviously we’re at war with Russia. The next year will be famine and inflation that always comes after a war. We’re in the end times let it play out but prepare yourself. You might wanna hug your kids and family a little more.

Revelation 6:1-3
Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, "Come and see." And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer. When He opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature saying, "Come and see."

Obvious, that’s not Jesus they’re talking about that is the antichrist.