Are We Sending Newborns To Be Slaughtered by Doing This?

Do you have any solid evidence for this? Not hearsay but real evidence.

Do you have any solid evidence for this? Not hearsay but real evidence.

Are We Sending Newborns To Be Slaughtered by Doing This?

Picture this:

A shepherd is in the field and witnesses a newborn sheep being born. He starts dancing around the shivering little animal, singing and praising God.

He throws out a few crumbs he has on hand for just such an occasion. Then, he tells the little newborn, "Simply call out if you need me," as he disappears into the wilderness.

Time For Rejoicing

The shepherd is so happy about the newborn sheep that he tells everyone in the village. All his friends throw a big party. They eat, dance, and sing, all while rejoicing and praising God.

Meanwhile, the wolves are circling around the little sheep, who cries out in the loudest voice he can muster.

Busy Saving the World

The shepherd calls back to him, "Sorry little sheep. I'm busy getting ready for my trip to Uganda. I have the important task of teaching shepherds there how to do what I do here. Maybe if you get ahold of Bill, the shepherd, he can help. Meanwhile, we'll pray for you."

The little sheep cries out to Bill, but no answer.

The wolves promptly devour the little sheep.

The shepherd returns from his important trip to Uganda, but the newborn sheep is nowhere in sight. He wonders where he's gone. He must not be a very dedicated sheep if he's just going to wander off like that.

The Slaughter of Newborn Believers

Unfortunately, the above scenario is playing out every day for newborn believers. Those who give their lives to Christ are left alone to fend for themselves.

In most cases, they don't have to face death. But many do turn from their faith, eventually. After all, who wants to be abandoned while being pummeled by Satan and his armies?

Is there a better way?

Shepherds behind the pulpit must be careful while leading people through the sinner's prayer. Those who are raising their hands are doing so for a reason. They desire a life-altering experience. They're making a decision for Christ, so leaving them in the lurch is not an option.

If pastors and preachers are too busy to follow up with newborn sheep, they should not lead people to make a decision for Christ behind the pulpit. Instead, there should be a way for someone to receive one-on-one discipleship.

But it doesn't stop there. The person who witnesses someone being born again is responsible for that newborn. This new believer needs spiritual food and protection from wolves in sheep's clothing. For that reason, ongoing discipleship is required.

Maybe, Maybe Not

This strategy, of course, requires time and energy. With our massive congregations in North America, asking church leadership to step up is a pipe dream.

Therefore, the individual churchgoer must take responsibility for the newborn believer. The church can no longer afford to view the falling away of parishioners as a millennial phenomenon.

It's simply because newborn sheep are being allowed to get slaughtered.

"You have not strengthened the weak, healed the sick, bandaged the injured, brought back the strays, or sought the lost, but with force and harshness you have ruled over them. They were scattered because they had no shepherd, and they became food for every wild beast. My sheep wandered over all the mountains and on every high hill. My sheep were scattered over the entire face of the earth with no one looking or searching for them." Ezekiel 34:4-6.

You know how to organize your thoughts into an outline like a pastor sir. Can you tell me what you think is required to be saved?

I did find this ...but its not my source
Cop:
We have to remember that he is a member of the Southern Baptist Convention, the most popular and most liberal of the Baptist Churches. Being raised up a Baptist, I can vaguely remember the adults discussing him and his doctrines in the late 1950's as being false and typically 'Southern Baptist teachings'.

camgears:
The masonic registry also shows Billy Graham is 33 degree freemason. Not too strange that he has been working closely with the pope to bring about ecumenism.

Gisle Pedersen:
camgears wrote: "The masonic registry also shows Billy Graham is 33 degree freemason. Not too strange that he has been working closely with the pope to bring about ecumenism."I have tried to get this confirmed without success. In which registry have you found this information? Are these official registries freely available for everybody. I don't suspect you being a freemason.[This message has been edited by Gisle Pedersen (edited 04-06-2006).]

camgears:
There are few sources that confirm this.
I did a quick search and came up with two sources:Genesee Lodge No. 174, Free and Accepted Masons, Chartered January 11, 1866 A.D. -- 5866 A.L., Under the Jurisdiction of the Grand Lodge of Free and Accepted Masons of the State of Michigan, 755 South Saginaw Street, Flint, Michigan, Robert (Bob) Orrison, Secretary., page. 3 of 7.

Louisiana Masonic Family, Free and Accepted Masons, Famous Masons section, listed under "Other Famous Masons",You can also purchase a copy of the Total Onslaught series by Prof. Walter Veith from www.amazingdiscoveries.org There are Billy Graham's picture in the masonic lodge photographed and shown in the lecture titled 'the secret behind secret societies'.

Are We Sending Newborns To Be Slaughtered by Doing This?

Picture this:

A shepherd is in the field and witnesses a newborn sheep being born. He starts dancing around the shivering little animal, singing and praising God.

He throws out a few crumbs he has on hand for just such an occasion. Then, he tells the little newborn, "Simply call out if you need me," as he disappears into the wilderness.

Time For Rejoicing

The shepherd is so happy about the newborn sheep that he tells everyone in the village. All his friends throw a big party. They eat, dance, and sing, all while rejoicing and praising God.

Meanwhile, the wolves are circling around the little sheep, who cries out in the loudest voice he can muster.

Busy Saving the World

The shepherd calls back to him, "Sorry little sheep. I'm busy getting ready for my trip to Uganda. I have the important task of teaching shepherds there how to do what I do here. Maybe if you get ahold of Bill, the shepherd, he can help. Meanwhile, we'll pray for you."

The little sheep cries out to Bill, but no answer.

The wolves promptly devour the little sheep.

The shepherd returns from his important trip to Uganda, but the newborn sheep is nowhere in sight. He wonders where he's gone. He must not be a very dedicated sheep if he's just going to wander off like that.

The Slaughter of Newborn Believers

Unfortunately, the above scenario is playing out every day for newborn believers. Those who give their lives to Christ are left alone to fend for themselves.

In most cases, they don't have to face death. But many do turn from their faith, eventually. After all, who wants to be abandoned while being pummeled by Satan and his armies?

Is there a better way?

Shepherds behind the pulpit must be careful while leading people through the sinner's prayer. Those who are raising their hands are doing so for a reason. They desire a life-altering experience. They're making a decision for Christ, so leaving them in the lurch is not an option.

If pastors and preachers are too busy to follow up with newborn sheep, they should not lead people to make a decision for Christ behind the pulpit. Instead, there should be a way for someone to receive one-on-one discipleship.

But it doesn't stop there. The person who witnesses someone being born again is responsible for that newborn. This new believer needs spiritual food and protection from wolves in sheep's clothing. For that reason, ongoing discipleship is required.

Maybe, Maybe Not

This strategy, of course, requires time and energy. With our massive congregations in North America, asking church leadership to step up is a pipe dream.

Therefore, the individual churchgoer must take responsibility for the newborn believer. The church can no longer afford to view the falling away of parishioners as a millennial phenomenon.

It's simply because newborn sheep are being allowed to get slaughtered.

"You have not strengthened the weak, healed the sick, bandaged the injured, brought back the strays, or sought the lost, but with force and harshness you have ruled over them. They were scattered because they had no shepherd, and they became food for every wild beast. My sheep wandered over all the mountains and on every high hill. My sheep were scattered over the entire face of the earth with no one looking or searching for them." Ezekiel 34:4-6.

Thank you for all this. My question though was if you have any evidence; not whether there may be evidence somewhere if I go and dig it up. I've looked into this in the past and there's nothing I could find that would hold up in a court of law.

In a similar vein, it was reported that many churches closed their doors for worship service this past Christmas day because it fell on a Sunday.

It is almost unheard of for a Christian church to cancel services on a Sunday, and opponents of the closures are accusing these congregations of bowing to secular culture.

This is a consumer mentality at work: `Let's not impose the church on people. Let's not make church in any way inconvenient,"' said David Wells, professor of history and systematic theology at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary, a leading evangelical school in Hamilton, Mass. "I think what this does is feed into the individualism that is found throughout American culture, where everyone does their own thing." (Story from CBS News - December 7, 2005

"You have not strengthened the weak, healed the sick, bandaged the injured, brought back the strays, or sought the lost, but with force and harshness you have ruled over them. They were scattered because they had no shepherd, and they became food for every wild beast. My sheep wandered over all the mountains and on every high hill. My sheep were scattered over the entire face of the earth with no one looking or searching for them." Ezekiel 34:4-6.

First ----Salvation is an individual thing ------and one has to be drawn by the Father to have their ears and heart open to hear and receive the message of the Gospel to have the right Faith inbirthed in them to become a New Babe in Christ ----

Once you are a New babe in Christ --you should keep in touch yourself with other more mature Born Again people so you can ask question and hopefully get some good answers ----but it is up to the New Born themselves to maintain Consistency in their Bible Reading to grow in their Faith walk with Christ and ask the Holy Spirit for help and guidance in their Faith walk ----

It is not the responsibility of the Shepard to constantly be there for the New Born Babe ------they have the means dwelling in them to help and guide them on a daily bases in their Spiritual Faith walk with Christ -----

The new born Babe has to work out their own salvation -----no one can help them do that -------they either want to mature in their Faith walk or they don't ------they either want to change their Worldly thinking to thinking like Christ or they don't ------

We have to understand that we as individual need to do the work to become Christ like in our character and accomplish out Spiritual growth -----we need to assemble with other like minded people but it is up to us alone to do the work to advance in our Spiritual growth -----Not the Shepard ----

The slaughter of the New Born happens when they themselves Quit the Spiritual growth process -by letting down their Shield of Faith ----and this then give Satan a chance to keep them in bondage to him -------

After all, it took the original 12 over three years of being personally taught by the Master himself to show any semblance of maturity. You can go even further by arguing that none of them really accepted Jesus as their Lord until witnessing His resurrection first-hand.

It is up to the person to go to Church so they are spoon fed the Gospel

and it is up to the person to get into their own Bibles every day so they can grow in their Faith

no one has the responsibility of Spoon feeding a New Born Babe in Christ except themselves

The New born Babe in Christ has God in them to instruct them as to what they should be spoon fed to grow in their walk with Christ ----

The Disciples had Jesus ----after Jesus died they had the Holy Spirit ----

Most Ministers ---Pastors --Priests today are not Born Again and are teaching False Doctrine ------or watering down the Gospel to keep the money flowing in ---skipping the hard Scripture as they have no clue themselves what the Spiritual meaning is of the Scripture

All your doing is transferring the Blame to the Pastors ---Ministers and Priests who are no better in their understanding of the Scriptures than the New Born Babe in Christ ------when God lives in the New Babe in Christ ---that is the issue today ---no one wants to rely on the Holy Spirit's direction --for growth and understanding of the scriptures-----that is what is sad ----

No, I don't agree with you at all here. 99 percent of our pastors and preachers are highly educated. They do a good job of preaching and running their churches.

The responsibility lies with the New Born Babe to find a group of Mature Christians who can direct them properly into their walk with Christ

My Hope is that people you talk to don't listen to your telling them that they need to go and get help from their Minister to understand the Gospel

your the one sending them to their slaughter if you don't know the Minister

Instead of ignoring them when they come to Christ, we should embrace them, come alongside them, and lead them toward spiritual grow. We're not just suppose to abdicate it to the Holy Spirit. After all, we are the hands and feet of Jesus.

Your problem is you don't trust the Holy Spirit

The next time a person raises their hand for Jesus, let someone who has the time to visit with them know about it.

It's really less complicated than we often make it.

Are We Sending Newborns To Be Slaughtered by Doing This?

Picture this:

A shepherd is in the field and witnesses a newborn sheep being born. He starts dancing around the shivering little animal, singing and praising God.

He throws out a few crumbs he has on hand for just such an occasion. Then, he tells the little newborn, "Simply call out if you need me," as he disappears into the wilderness.

Time For Rejoicing

The shepherd is so happy about the newborn sheep that he tells everyone in the village. All his friends throw a big party. They eat, dance, and sing, all while rejoicing and praising God.

Meanwhile, the wolves are circling around the little sheep, who cries out in the loudest voice he can muster.

Busy Saving the World

The shepherd calls back to him, "Sorry little sheep. I'm busy getting ready for my trip to Uganda. I have the important task of teaching shepherds there how to do what I do here. Maybe if you get ahold of Bill, the shepherd, he can help. Meanwhile, we'll pray for you."

The little sheep cries out to Bill, but no answer.

The wolves promptly devour the little sheep.

The shepherd returns from his important trip to Uganda, but the newborn sheep is nowhere in sight. He wonders where he's gone. He must not be a very dedicated sheep if he's just going to wander off like that.

The Slaughter of Newborn Believers

Unfortunately, the above scenario is playing out every day for newborn believers. Those who give their lives to Christ are left alone to fend for themselves.

In most cases, they don't have to face death. But many do turn from their faith, eventually. After all, who wants to be abandoned while being pummeled by Satan and his armies?

Is there a better way?

Shepherds behind the pulpit must be careful while leading people through the sinner's prayer. Those who are raising their hands are doing so for a reason. They desire a life-altering experience. They're making a decision for Christ, so leaving them in the lurch is not an option.

If pastors and preachers are too busy to follow up with newborn sheep, they should not lead people to make a decision for Christ behind the pulpit. Instead, there should be a way for someone to receive one-on-one discipleship.

But it doesn't stop there. The person who witnesses someone being born again is responsible for that newborn. This new believer needs spiritual food and protection from wolves in sheep's clothing. For that reason, ongoing discipleship is required.

Maybe, Maybe Not

This strategy, of course, requires time and energy. With our massive congregations in North America, asking church leadership to step up is a pipe dream.

Therefore, the individual churchgoer must take responsibility for the newborn believer. The church can no longer afford to view the falling away of parishioners as a millennial phenomenon.

It's simply because newborn sheep are being allowed to get slaughtered.

"You have not strengthened the weak, healed the sick, bandaged the injured, brought back the strays, or sought the lost, but with force and harshness you have ruled over them. They were scattered because they had no shepherd, and they became food for every wild beast. My sheep wandered over all the mountains and on every high hill. My sheep were scattered over the entire face of the earth with no one looking or searching for them." Ezekiel 34:4-6.

why are they going to Uganda?

Jesus did leave the 99 flock for the one that went astray...but the sheep, being a herd, are meant to look after each other.

Are you saying he left wolves in charge?

Wolves often go after a lone sheep with no protection.