Do you observe the Sabbath?

"He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it." Romans 14:6

No one can say a person who keeps the Sabbath has a special blessing from the Lord; nor does one who doesn't keep it have any less of a blessing. Both do what they do to the Lord and both have the same blessing. This Sabbath keeping garbage is getting old.

"He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it." Romans 14:6

No one can say a person who keeps the Sabbath has a special blessing from the Lord; nor does one who doesn't keep it have any less of a blessing. Both do what they do to the Lord and both have the same blessing. This Sabbath keeping garbage is getting old.

You receive the gift of salvation first and then you walk in that grace by faith, receive and then respond.

No matter how wonderful your works are, they are the result of that gift of salvation.

The Sabbath of the LORD thy God (JEHOVAH Elohiym) - The 7th Day - The Lord's day - Who, What, When, Where, Why, & How? Part 05

QUESTION: DIDN’T PAUL SAY IN ROMANS 14:1-23 THAT CHRISTIANS CAN MEET OR NOT MEET ANY DAY OF THE WEEK AS THE FULFILLING/REPLACING THE SABBATH COMMAND?

No. See ROMANS 14 – https://archive.org/details/romans-14_202111

Why Paul is not speaking of the Sabbath (the 7th day) in Romans 14.

Romans 14:5 - One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

This text is incorrectly used to teach that God regards not any specific day as Holy, such as the 7th Day the Sabbath of the LORD thy God (Genesis 2:1-3; Exodus 20:8-11). Yet:

[01.] the days spoken of are associated with eating/drinking, not eating/not drinking.

[02.] the matter (in context) is over those 'weak' and 'strong' in faith concerning eating/drinking (feasting/fasting) and days to do and not do those things on

[03.] the context deals with what "One man esteemeth", and not what God esteems (Isaiah 56:1-8, 58:13; Psalms 89:34) as permanent. God's word says, “… for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God.” (Luke 16:15). The unconverted Jews continually debated over such matters: (Matthew 9:14; Mark 2:18; Luke 5:33, 18:12)

[04.] the words for “sabbath”, are not present in all of Romans 14, or all of Romans

[05.] the words for “the seventh day” are not present in all of Romans 14, or all of Romans

[06.] the words for “the Lord's day” are not present in all of Romans 14, or all of Romans

[07.] Romans 14 is in the context of Romans 13, which directly cites the latter (2nd) table of the Ten Commandments, for love to neighbour (Romans 13:8-10), which is linked to Leviticus 19:17-18, in the context of sin and the Ten Commandments

[08.] Romans 15 is the other end, and when combined with 1 Corinthians 8-10, the context is clear that the sabbath of the LORD thy God (Exodus 20:8-11) is not in view in the least, for Paul always magnifies the eternal spiritual, holy, just and good Law (Exodus 20:1-17) of God, which identifies what sin is (Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

[09.] the entire context of Romans 14 is to do nothing (even if allowed normally, yet not under special circumstances) to cause others to sin (Romans 7:7,14, 14:13)

[10.] Paul never contradicts himself; his writings being scripture (2 Peter 3:16), and scripture cannot be broken, (John 10:35) and never teaches transgression of God's Law (Exodus 20:1-17) at any point (Romans 6:1-2,15, 7:7,14) by anyone

[11.] the words for “law”, “commandments” are never used in Romans 14

[12.] Paul lists and upholds every single one of the Ten Commandments in the NT, including the 4th Commandment (Genesis 2:1-3; Exodus 20:8-11) in Acts 13-18 & Hebrews 3-4, etc.

[13.] Romans 14 is about excluding those things which were "doubful disputations", and not a single one of the Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:1-17) were ever doubtful or to be disputed in any place in all of scripture (KJB), for the Commandment of God are "sure" (Psalms 111:7).

[14.] the words for “covenant/testament” are never used in Romans 14

[15.] the words for “first [day] of the week” are never used in Romans 14, neither in all of Romans

[16.] none of the 'Sunday' (first [day] of the week) churches use Romans 14 to teach that others may ignore the day they gather on, even though that day is not sanctified by God in any way what so ever in scripture (KJB), and is never called “the Lord's day”, neither "the seventh day the sabbath of the LORD thy God”

[17.] nobody uses Romans 14 to teach anyone can simply stop eating/drinking on every day

[18.] anyone who quotes Romans 14, has in mind 'restrictions', rather than allowances

Paul throughout Romans 1-13, 15-16, and in every other epistle he wrote, magnified the Ten Commandments as to be obeyed by those in Christ Jesus, by the Holy Spirit, for Paul clearly says, “Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.” (Romans 3:31):

Romans 1:18, 2:26-27, 3:31, 6:1-23, 7:7,12,14,16, 8:4-14, 9:6-8,27,31,32, 11:1-36, 12:1,2,5,9, 13:8-14, 15:1-27, 16:17-19)

[Paul said:] “...the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men ...” (Romans 1:18),

[John said:] “All unrighteousness is sin ...” (1 John 5:7),

[Paul said:] “...as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:” (Romans 11:26)

How did Paul teach about the Law, Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:1-17; Deuteronomy 5:4-21, 6:5-6 Leviticus 19:17-18), and Sin and Transgression just in the Book of Romans?

1:18 - For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

2:26 - keep the righteousness of the law

2:27 - if it fulfil the law

3:31 - we establish the law

6:4 - we are buried with him by baptism into death ... that like as Christ was raised up ... even so we also should walk in newness of life.

6:6 - our old man is crucified ... we should not serve sin.

6:7 - he that is dead is freed from sin.

6:10 - in that he died, he died unto sin ... he liveth unto God.

6:11 - reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.

6:12 - Let not sin therefore reign

6:13 - Neither yield ye your members [as] instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members [as] instruments of righteousness unto God.

6:15 - shall we sin ... God forbid.

6:16 - Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

6:17 - ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.

6:18 - made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness

6:19 - as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness

6:20 - ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness

6:21 - fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things [is] death

6:22 - made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life

6:23 - the wages of sin [is] death

7:7 - [Is] the law sin? God forbid...I had not known sin, but by the law...I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet

7:10 - the commandment, which [was ordained] to life

7:12 - the law [is] holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good

7:14 - we know that the law is spiritual

7:15 - I consent unto the law that [it is] good

8:4 - That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit

8:5 - they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit

8:6 - to be carnally minded [is] death; but to be spiritually minded [is] life and peace

8:7 - the carnal mind [is] enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be 8:8 - they that are in the flesh cannot please God

8:12 - we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh

8:13 - if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live

9:31 - the law of righteousness

12:9 - Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good

13:8 - Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law

13:9 - For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if [there be] any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself

13:10 - “Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love [is] the fulfilling of the law

13:12 - cast off the works of darkness

13:13 - Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying

13:14 - make not provision for the flesh, to [fulfil] the lusts [thereof]

15:18 - For I will not dare to speak of any of those things which Christ hath not wrought by me, to make the Gentiles obedient, by word and deed,

16:19 - For your obedience is come abroad unto all men. I am glad therefore on your behalf: but yet I would have you wise unto that which is good, and simple concerning evil.

There are 2 ways of interpreting "being free from the law", one is wrong...
The law is vanished and no longer exists which means that all the sins it pointed out are not sinful anymore. We can't sin.
Or the punishment of sin is taken away by Christ so the power of the law is no longer over us. The law still points out sin but sin is forgiven by Jesus.
Do you see the difference.

How did Paul understand the Ten Commandments, the Law (not for salvation), in his other Epistles?

[A.] 1 Corinthians 9:21 - To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law.

[B.] Ephesians 6:2 - Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise; )

[C.] 1 Timothy 1:8 - “... the law [is] good, if a man use it lawfully ...”

[D.] Galatians 2:18 - For if I build again the things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor.

[E.] Galatians 5:14 - For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

The TEN COMMANDMENTS as Paul wrote/preached/taught them (KJB):

[01.] [Ex. 20:1-3] Acts 14:15-16, 24:14; 1 Corinthians 8:5-6

[02.] [Ex. 20:4-6] Acts 15:20, 17:29; 1 Corinthians 10:7,14, 12:2; 2 Corinthians 6:16; 1 Thessalonians 1:9; Galatians 5:20-21; Ephesians 5:5; Colossians 3:5

[03.] [Ex. 20:7] Romans 2:24; Colossians 3:8; Ephesians 5:4; 1 Timothy 6:1

[04.] [Ex. 20:8-11] Acts 13:14-16,42,44, 14:15-16, 15:21 (see Isaiah 56:6) , 16:13, 17:2 (compare Luke 4:16), 18:4,7 (see John 16:2),11 (over 78 sabbaths kept consecutively, with Jews, Gentiles and whole city at least once); Hebrews 4:1-12 (especially vs 9; “rest” = koine Greek “σαββατισμός”, “sabbatismos”), 10:25 (the Lord’s day, the 7th day in weekly cycle and also the greater ‘Day of the LORD’, the 1000 years)

[05.] [Ex. 20:12] Ephesians 6:1-3; Colossians 3:20

[06.] [Ex. 20:13] Romans 1:29,32, 13:8-10

[07.] [Ex. 20:14] Romans 13:8-10 Colossians 3:18-19

[08.] [Ex. 20:15] Romans 2:21, 13:8-10; Ephesians 4:28

[09.] [Ex. 20:16] Romans 13:8-10; Colossians 3:9

[10.] [Ex. 20:17] Romans 1:29,32, 7:7, 13:8-10; Ephesians 5:3; Colossians 3:5; Hebrews 13:5

Romans 14, deals with the days that "man esteemeth" among men, and therefore see Luke 16:15. God always esteems His Holy day, the 7th day, the sabbath [Job 23:12; Psalms 119:126-128].

The ”one day" “above another” or “every day alike” in Romans 14:5-6 is associated with eating and not eating (vs 6), among "men", which are days set apart for men for fasting/feasting, etc. The Jews had constantly fought with one another over which days were better to do this or that (Matthew 9:14; Mark 2:18; Luke 5:33, 18:12). Some Jews decided that any day was proper (for eating / not eating, feasting / fasting), while others had specific days picked out [see also the historical apocryphal source the “Didache 8:1-2 – (8:1) And let not your fastings be with the hypocrites, for they fast on the second and the fifth day of the week; (8:2) but do ye keep your fast on the fourth and on the preparation (the sixth) day.” – [ http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/didache-lightfoot.html ] which showed that evil and erroneous mindset continued]. Paul stated that such controversy was not in harmony with love. Each persons individual decision on that matter was ok, so long as their conscience was clear, and that all did those things unto the LORD and to the glory of God, and not for personal gain/prestige/notice [as the Pharisees had done], but that what mattered was brotherly love, preferring one another.

Romans 14, should be read in connection with 1 Corinthians 8-10 as they parallel one another. Besides the days for feasting/fasting controversy, there were also issues with the Gentile believers purchasing food in the shambles [marketplaces] which food items may have been blessed or offered before idols before being sold. There were some Jews, and possibly Gentiles believers, which took offence at anyone partaking of those things because of the sudden connection to idolatry/idols. The (sanctioned by God’s Law; Genesis 1:29-30; Leviticus 11 & Deuteronomy 14, etc) food items became ceremonially unclean (common) in their incorrect mindset, and thus thought to defile the body, yet Jesus said it could not (Mark 7:18-20; Matthew 15:17-20).

Paul stated that an Idol is nothing (1 Corinthians 8:4), but the persons (Jews & Gentiles) for whom Christ Jesus died were of the true and infinite value, and therefore, all are to regard the conscience of another, and cause no one to sin (Romans 14:13,15), even if what was eaten was immediately lawful to a person, but even with such freedom within God's law, not everything is always expedient (1 Corinthians 6:12, 10:23), or best to do at all times. There were also Jewish believers in Christ who were still under their vows, even Nazarite vows, and thus things of the vine (grape, etc) in matters of eating and drinking became an issue. Just because Christ Jesus died on the Cross, doesn't negate their vow - they still had to carry out what they said they would do.

Reading Romans 1-16, the Law, the Ten Commandments of God are spoken of and cited throughout, as eternal, being the present judge of sin (Romans 7:7; in fact how did you know you needed as Saviour? What Law was transgressed by yourself? Exodus 20:1-17). God's Ten Commandments are Eternal (Psalms 89:34), His Sabbath from Genesis to Revelation, even into the New Heavens and New Earth (Isaiah 66:22-23). Therefore, let no one “wrest” (Psalms 56:5; 2 Peter 3:16) Romans 14 as many do.

So you are keeping 9/10th of the law of liberty. And not keeping the one law that God said "remember" because you refuse to see the verses in the new testament that uplift the sabbath.

Mat 12:8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.
Mat 24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
Act 13:42-44 KJV 42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath..... 44 And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.
Act 18:4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.

Jesus said Luk 22:67 "If I tell you, ye will not believe":
People refused to see even with all the evidence they found a way to not believe.

The Sabbath of the LORD thy God (JEHOVAH Elohiym) - The 7th Day - The Lord's day - Who, What, When, Where, Why, & How? Part 05

QUESTION: DIDN’T PAUL SAY IN ROMANS 14:1-23 THAT CHRISTIANS CAN MEET OR NOT MEET ANY DAY OF THE WEEK AS THE FULFILLING/REPLACING THE SABBATH COMMAND?

No. See ROMANS 14 – https://archive.org/details/romans-14_202111

Why Paul is not speaking of the Sabbath (the 7th day) in Romans 14.

Romans 14:5 - One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

This text is incorrectly used to teach that God regards not any specific day as Holy, such as the 7th Day the Sabbath of the LORD thy God (Genesis 2:1-3; Exodus 20:8-11). Yet:

[01.] the days spoken of are associated with eating/drinking, not eating/not drinking.

[02.] the matter (in context) is over those 'weak' and 'strong' in faith concerning eating/drinking (feasting/fasting) and days to do and not do those things on

[03.] the context deals with what "One man esteemeth", and not what God esteems (Isaiah 56:1-8, 58:13; Psalms 89:34) as permanent. God's word says, “… for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God.” (Luke 16:15). The unconverted Jews continually debated over such matters: (Matthew 9:14; Mark 2:18; Luke 5:33, 18:12)

[04.] the words for “sabbath”, are not present in all of Romans 14, or all of Romans

[05.] the words for “the seventh day” are not present in all of Romans 14, or all of Romans

[06.] the words for “the Lord's day” are not present in all of Romans 14, or all of Romans

[07.] Romans 14 is in the context of Romans 13, which directly cites the latter (2nd) table of the Ten Commandments, for love to neighbour (Romans 13:8-10), which is linked to Leviticus 19:17-18, in the context of sin and the Ten Commandments

[08.] Romans 15 is the other end, and when combined with 1 Corinthians 8-10, the context is clear that the sabbath of the LORD thy God (Exodus 20:8-11) is not in view in the least, for Paul always magnifies the eternal spiritual, holy, just and good Law (Exodus 20:1-17) of God, which identifies what sin is (Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

[09.] the entire context of Romans 14 is to do nothing (even if allowed normally, yet not under special circumstances) to cause others to sin (Romans 7:7,14, 14:13)

[10.] Paul never contradicts himself; his writings being scripture (2 Peter 3:16), and scripture cannot be broken, (John 10:35) and never teaches transgression of God's Law (Exodus 20:1-17) at any point (Romans 6:1-2,15, 7:7,14) by anyone

[11.] the words for “law”, “commandments” are never used in Romans 14

[12.] Paul lists and upholds every single one of the Ten Commandments in the NT, including the 4th Commandment (Genesis 2:1-3; Exodus 20:8-11) in Acts 13-18 & Hebrews 3-4, etc.

[13.] Romans 14 is about excluding those things which were "doubful disputations", and not a single one of the Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:1-17) were ever doubtful or to be disputed in any place in all of scripture (KJB), for the Commandment of God are "sure" (Psalms 111:7).

[14.] the words for “covenant/testament” are never used in Romans 14

[15.] the words for “first [day] of the week” are never used in Romans 14, neither in all of Romans

[16.] none of the 'Sunday' (first [day] of the week) churches use Romans 14 to teach that others may ignore the day they gather on, even though that day is not sanctified by God in any way what so ever in scripture (KJB), and is never called “the Lord's day”, neither "the seventh day the sabbath of the LORD thy God”

[17.] nobody uses Romans 14 to teach anyone can simply stop eating/drinking on every day

[18.] anyone who quotes Romans 14, has in mind 'restrictions', rather than allowances

Paul throughout Romans 1-13, 15-16, and in every other epistle he wrote, magnified the Ten Commandments as to be obeyed by those in Christ Jesus, by the Holy Spirit, for Paul clearly says, “Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.” (Romans 3:31):

Romans 1:18, 2:26-27, 3:31, 6:1-23, 7:7,12,14,16, 8:4-14, 9:6-8,27,31,32, 11:1-36, 12:1,2,5,9, 13:8-14, 15:1-27, 16:17-19)

[Paul said:] “...the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men ...” (Romans 1:18),

[John said:] “All unrighteousness is sin ...” (1 John 5:7),

[Paul said:] “...as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:” (Romans 11:26)

How did Paul teach about the Law, Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:1-17; Deuteronomy 5:4-21, 6:5-6 Leviticus 19:17-18), and Sin and Transgression just in the Book of Romans?

1:18 - For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

2:26 - keep the righteousness of the law

2:27 - if it fulfil the law

3:31 - we establish the law

6:4 - we are buried with him by baptism into death ... that like as Christ was raised up ... even so we also should walk in newness of life.

6:6 - our old man is crucified ... we should not serve sin.

6:7 - he that is dead is freed from sin.

6:10 - in that he died, he died unto sin ... he liveth unto God.

6:11 - reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.

6:12 - Let not sin therefore reign

6:13 - Neither yield ye your members [as] instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members [as] instruments of righteousness unto God.

6:15 - shall we sin ... God forbid.

6:16 - Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

6:17 - ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.

6:18 - made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness

6:19 - as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness

6:20 - ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness

6:21 - fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things [is] death

6:22 - made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life

6:23 - the wages of sin [is] death

7:7 - [Is] the law sin? God forbid...I had not known sin, but by the law...I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet

7:10 - the commandment, which [was ordained] to life

7:12 - the law [is] holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good

7:14 - we know that the law is spiritual

7:15 - I consent unto the law that [it is] good

8:4 - That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit

8:5 - they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit

8:6 - to be carnally minded [is] death; but to be spiritually minded [is] life and peace

8:7 - the carnal mind [is] enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be 8:8 - they that are in the flesh cannot please God

8:12 - we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh

8:13 - if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live

9:31 - the law of righteousness

12:9 - Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good

13:8 - Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law

13:9 - For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if [there be] any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself

13:10 - “Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love [is] the fulfilling of the law

13:12 - cast off the works of darkness

13:13 - Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying

13:14 - make not provision for the flesh, to [fulfil] the lusts [thereof]

15:18 - For I will not dare to speak of any of those things which Christ hath not wrought by me, to make the Gentiles obedient, by word and deed,

16:19 - For your obedience is come abroad unto all men. I am glad therefore on your behalf: but yet I would have you wise unto that which is good, and simple concerning evil.

The true Israel of today are the followers of Jesus. I'm grafted into the tree by Christ. And follow the Lord Jesus.
The moral law still applies and the shadow laws are fulfilled in Christ.

Making a distinction in the laws that were nailed to the cross and the unchanging moral laws is what i am doing.

Do you actually expect anyone to read this l-o-n-g post???

It frustrates me that people have begun to separate the Law into groups... calling the 10 Commandments the "moral law" and making them distinctly different than the rest of the Law. Nowhere in the Bible, that I know of, is this idea expressed.

It frustrates me that people have begun to separate the Law into groups... calling the 10 Commandments the "moral law" and making them distinctly different than the rest of the Law. Nowhere in the Bible, that I know of, is this idea expressed.

So you are keeping 9/10th of the law of liberty. And not keeping the one law that God said "remember" because you refuse to see the verses in the new testament that uplift the sabbath.

Mat 12:8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.

Mat 24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

Act 13:42-44 KJV 42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath..... 44 And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.
Act 18:4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.

Jesus said Luk 22:67 "If I tell you, ye will not believe": People refused to see even with all the evidence they found a way to not believe.

So we agree about grace and faith... our works are a result of salvation and a result of Jesus in us so all glory goes to God.

But we differ in what we see as good works.

I believe the whole 10 commandments, the teachings of Jesus are to be followed. If you believe only 9 of the 10 are moral laws you will not consider the sabbath to keep it Holy.

What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known sabbath keeping, except the law had said, remember the sabbath day to keep it holy.

Another problem they have is that moral law occurs in the ordinances, the decrees of the Lord.

They ignore those moral laws.

You will not afflict widows and orphans is a good example.

That is an ordinance, that was fulfilled, pay no attention to it, that is no longer a sin.

I have no idea sometimes, when they use the word, 'moral', what they are talking about.

It's like Judaizers 2.0, lol. And I'm looking for Scripture to address it.

Regardless, I fear that Gal. 3:1-6 is in play here?

O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? It was before your eyes that Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified. 2 Let me ask you only this: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law or by hearing with faith? 3 Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh? 4 Did you suffer so many things in vain—if indeed it was in vain? 5 Does he who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you do so by works of the law, or by hearing with faith— 6 just as Abraham “believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness”?