What Is The Meaning Of Jesus The Son Of God? and Why?

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Walter

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Thursday 2-9-23 5th. Day Of The Weekly Cycle Shevat 17, 5783 51st. Winter Day

Here is a view of what I think:

Jesus is not God’s Son in the sense of a human father and a son. God did not get married and have a son. God did not mate with Mary and, together with her, produce a son. Jesus is God’s Son in the sense that He is God made manifest in human form (John 1:1, 14).

Jesus is God’s Son in that He was conceived in Mary by the Holy Spirit. Luke 1:35 declares, “The angel answered, 'The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.’”

Love, Walter
 
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Locoponydirtman

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And yet also He was the one through which everything was created.
Amd John the baptist said that Jesus was before him.
There were many appearances of Jesus to men and prophets before He was incarnate.
Jesus existed as God before being incarnated through the womb of Marry.
 

Underwhosewings

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Jesus is God’s Son in the sense that He is God made manifest in human form
Amen

Mark 6:3 KJV
Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.
 

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Thursday 2-9-23 5th. Day Of The Weekly Cycle Shevat 17, 5783 51st. Winter Day

Here is a view of what I think:

Jesus is not God’s Son in the sense of a human father and a son. God did not get married and have a son. God did not mate with Mary and, together with her, produce a son. Jesus is God’s Son in the sense that He is God made manifest in human form (John 1:1, 14).

Jesus is God’s Son in that He was conceived in Mary by the Holy Spirit. Luke 1:35 declares, “The angel answered, 'The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.’”

Love, Walter
somebody needs to give this guy a medal, every time I read something of yours I both amazed and drawn in deeper.
 

studentoftheword

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Thursday 2-9-23 5th. Day Of The Weekly Cycle Shevat 17, 5783 51st. Winter Day

Here is a view of what I think:

Jesus is not God’s Son in the sense of a human father and a son. God did not get married and have a son. God did not mate with Mary and, together with her, produce a son. Jesus is God’s Son in the sense that He is God made manifest in human form (John 1:1, 14).

Jesus is God’s Son in that He was conceived in Mary by the Holy Spirit. Luke 1:35 declares, “The angel answered, 'The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.’”

Love, Walter

I think what is posted above here is from Got Questions --------

------here is what it says at Got Questions ----Read all ---- I just posted this First paragraph ------

https://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-Son-of-God.html
What does it mean that Jesus is the Son of God?

Jesus is not God’s Son in the sense of a human father and a son. God did not get married and have a son. God did not mate with Mary and, together with her, produce a son. Jesus is God’s Son in the sense that He is God made manifest in human form (John 1:1, 14). Jesus is God’s Son in that He was conceived in Mary by the Holy Spirit. Luke 1:35 declares, “The angel answered, 'The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.’”

I say
This is what Strong''s Concordance says -----

STRONGS NT 5207b: υἱός τοῦ Θεοῦυἱός τοῦ Θεοῦ son of God;

1. in a physical sense, in various applications: originating by direct creation, not begotten by man — as the first man Adam, Luke 3:38; Jesus, begotten of the Holy Ghost without the intervention of a human father
 

Blain

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I think what is posted above here is from Got Questions --------

------here is what it says at Got Questions ----Read all ---- I just posted this First paragraph ------

https://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-Son-of-God.html
What does it mean that Jesus is the Son of God?

Jesus is not God’s Son in the sense of a human father and a son. God did not get married and have a son. God did not mate with Mary and, together with her, produce a son. Jesus is God’s Son in the sense that He is God made manifest in human form (John 1:1, 14). Jesus is God’s Son in that He was conceived in Mary by the Holy Spirit. Luke 1:35 declares, “The angel answered, 'The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.’”

I say
This is what Strong''s Concordance says -----

STRONGS NT 5207b: υἱός τοῦ Θεοῦυἱός τοῦ Θεοῦ son of God;

1. in a physical sense, in various applications: originating by direct creation, not begotten by man — as the first man Adam, Luke 3:38; Jesus, begotten of the Holy Ghost without the intervention of a human father
Well while I wish he was upfront of the source I was blessed by it. What tipped you off? Have you read this before or did you have a hyntch?
 

Walter

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And yet also He was the one through which everything was created.
Amd John the baptist said that Jesus was before him.
There were many appearances of Jesus to men and prophets before He was incarnate.
Jesus existed as God before being incarnated through the womb of Marry.
Hello Locoponydirtman, and thank you.

Love, Walter
 
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Briefly: Yahshua/Jesus is the “only begotten Son of God”. He is the One who prophecy points to. He is the One who fulfilled biblical prophecy (Isaiah 9: 5-6, Luke 1: 30-33). His presence on earth was to represent Yahweh/God, to teach us God’s way and become the sin offering for the sins of the world. Scripture tells us He will come again to take the throne of David and establish the Kingdom of God on earth.
 

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Thursday 2-9-23 5th. Day Of The Weekly Cycle Shevat 17, 5783 51st. Winter Day

Here is a view of what I think:

Jesus is not God’s Son in the sense of a human father and a son. God did not get married and have a son. God did not mate with Mary and, together with her, produce a son. Jesus is God’s Son in the sense that He is God made manifest in human form (John 1:1, 14).

Jesus is God’s Son in that He was conceived in Mary by the Holy Spirit. Luke 1:35 declares, “The angel answered, 'The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.’”

Love, Walter
Yes.

A logical fallacy: Jesus is God > Mary is His mother > Mary is the mother of God.

No.

Jesus was God because of His spirit, His flesh was simply the container. He received His flesh from Mary; a body that could be corrupted and die. He received His spirit from God.

Even we, who are alive today, may say that our bodies are simply "where" we are not "who" we are.

"But we have this treasure in jars of clay, to show that the surpassing power belongs to God and not to us."

What is greater: The Spirit of Christ or the Body of Jesus? Clearly the Spirit of Christ. That is what is in us, yet we are not able to claim to be the origin of the spirit of Christ in us. He is from God. Mary, too, could not claim that God originated with her... only the body in which He came.
 

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Thursday 2-9-23 5th. Day Of The Weekly Cycle Shevat 17, 5783 51st. Winter Day

Here is a view of what I think:

Jesus is not God’s Son in the sense of a human father and a son. God did not get married and have a son. God did not mate with Mary and, together with her, produce a son. Jesus is God’s Son in the sense that He is God made manifest in human form (John 1:1, 14).

Jesus is God’s Son in that He was conceived in Mary by the Holy Spirit. Luke 1:35 declares, “The angel answered, 'The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.’”

Love, Walter
it’s all fulfillment of what God said teaching man that we are Gods children we are the sons

“At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father,

and ye in me, ( son )

and I in you.”( son )
‭‭John‬ ‭14:20‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭3:38‬ ‭KJV‬‬

see the reason Jesus became a man is because mankind are the children

“Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; and deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭2:14-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

even Adam and Eve were his children but the children were deceived and lost thier identity and began forgetting that man is Gods image and glory his children and we began to make idols and create ideas of god and worship gold and silver and animal and man and object creating our own morality and crediting it to god forgetting the true God we lost our minds and hearts to sin

all was lost the children were corrupted all together

and then the Son of God , a perfect man who truly reflects the image of God as man was always created to be from the start

The son is the only place where we can remember and be taught who man really is meant to be he represents the perfect man , who is the image of God , the glory and brightness of Gods character manifest in the world and when we come to him it’s about him bringing many sons to his glory and image which is mankind’s true place in Gods design

He became the son because that’s what we are meant to be , to redeem us to that place where we belong

“For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: and if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God. because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth. Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭8:14-17, 19, 21, 29-30, 33-35‬ ‭

God became one of us after we were lost in order to bring us home to him

“So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:27-28‬ ‭KJV‬‬

thats mans place in Gods creation to be his glory and image on earth and reflect our fathers nature towards others in the world

Jesus came to redeem us to that place of Gods image

“in whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭4:4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭3:18‬ ‭KJV‬‬