Is The Earth Flat Or Round?

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Is The Earth Flat Or Round?


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My brothers and sisters in Jesus Christ, the sun, the moon, and the stars are close. We live on a flat, stretched out world, that God created around 6,000 years ago. When he created the firmament on the second day (Genesis 1:6-8), that is the same firmament that the birds fly in (Genesis 1:20), and it is the same firmament that the sun, the moon, and the stars are in (Genesis 1:16,17).

The people of the world knew that the world is flat and stretched out, and heaven is above, when they started building a tower to heaven, right after the flood (Genesis 11:1-9).

In these scriptures:

Though they dig into hell, thence shall mine hand take them; though they climb up to heaven, thence will I bring them down: Amos 9:2

Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the LORD. Obadiah 1:4

- it means literally climb to heaven (Jeremiah 51:53), as they tried to do in Babel. And it means it is possible to go as high as the (fig sized [Revelation 1:16,20, 2:1, 6:13, 12:1, Isaiah 34:4]) stars, among them, and even above them as the word of God says:

For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: Isaiah 14:13

That means it is possible to go above the stars of God, as many aircraft have done up to this day.

And this world is flat because all of the kingdoms of this world were seen from a very high mountain (Matthew 4:8). And the heaven above remains close, all the way to the ends of the earth in Antarctica, where Antarctica rises (Ecclesiastes 1:7) to meet the descending firmament, where heaven and earth meet (Deuteronomy 30:4, Matthew 24:31, Mark 13:27).

The (around six feet wide [Genesis 37:9,10, Revelation 12:1], few inches thick [Genesis 1:16, Isaiah 3:18 KJV]) sun rises (Psalms 19:1-6, Ecclesiastes 1:5) to a height of around 28.65 miles above sea level, due south of Jerusalem. From there it goes down and sets in the west, on Jerusalem, at a height of around 7.83 miles above sea level. Then it continues at that altitude, passing over the north, until it rises on Jerusalem in the east again, every day. Praise God.

What is called the canonical radius of the sun, from Georg Friedrich Julius Arthur Auwers in 1891, is 959.63" (arcseconds).

959.63" + 959.63" = 1,919.26" = diameter of the sun

1,919.26" ÷ 60" = 31.98767' (arcminutes)

31.98767' ÷ 60' = 0.5331278° (degree)

7,912.1767 statute miles (the claimed diameter of a sphere world) ÷ 864,575.6094 statute miles (the claimed diameter of the sun) = 0.00915152

0.5331278° × 0.00915152 = 0.0048789297°

0.5331278° − 0.0048789297° = 0.5282488703°

0.5282488703° ÷ 2 = 0.26412443515°

tan(0.26412443515°) = 0.0046098737

0.0046098737 × 6,214.209 statute miles (the distance from what is called the Geographical North Pole to the equator, on the Longitude 035.23474576724° E line) = 28.6467 statute miles is around the height of the sun above the equator, directly south of the center of the world (in the center of the holy of holies of the first temple that still stands [Psalms 78:68,69] on mount Zion, in position Latitude 31.77683954779° N Longitude 035.23474576724° E), in Jerusalem (Ezekiel 5:5, 38:12, Revelation 20:9), around March 20 and September 22

The distance from the Geographical North Pole to the north Geographical South Pole, on the Longitude 144.76525423276° W line, is 27.323954473516268615107010698011% of the distance from the Geographical North Pole to the south Geographical South Pole, on the Longitude 035.23474576724° E line.

28.6467 statute miles × 0.2732395447 = 7.8274 statute miles is around the height of the sun as it is set, passing over the north, above the equator, around March 20 and September 22

The largest and smallest angular diameters of the sun, from 2011 to 2030, are 1952.0" and 1887.6" (Planetary Ephemeris Data Courtesy of Fred Espenak, www.Astropixels.com), found from the page:

http://astropixels.com/ephemeris/ephemeris.html

1,952" ÷ 1,919.26" = 1.017058658

1,887.6" ÷ 1,919.26" = 0.983504059

28.6467 statute miles × 1.017058658 = 29.1354 statute miles is around the height of the sun above the Tropic of Cancer, directly south of the center of the world, in Jerusalem, around June 21

28.6467 statute miles × 0.983504059 = 28.1742 statute miles is around the height of the sun above the Tropic of Capricorn, directly south of the center of the world, in Jerusalem, around December 21

7.8274 statute miles × 1.017058658 = 7.9609 statute miles is around the height of the sun as it is set, passing over the north, above the Tropic of Cancer, around June 21

7.8274 statute miles × 0.983504059 = 7.6983 statute miles is around the height of the sun as it is set, passing over the north, above the Tropic of Capricorn, around December 21

The (around six feet wide [Genesis 1:16, 37:9,10, Revelation 12:1], few inches thick [Isaiah 3:18 KJV]) moon and the stars near the sun also have similar altitudes, as they run their courses in the firmament.

Glory to God.
 
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My brothers and sisters in Jesus Christ, the sun, the moon, and the stars are close. We live on a flat, stretched out world, that God created around 6,000 years ago. When he created the firmament on the second day (Genesis 1:6-8), that is the same firmament that the birds fly in (Genesis 1:20), and it is the same firmament that the sun, the moon, and the stars are in (Genesis 1:16,17).

The people of the world knew that the world is flat and stretched out, and heaven is above, when they started building a tower to heaven, right after the flood (Genesis 11:1-9).

In these scriptures:

Though they dig into hell, thence shall mine hand take them; though they climb up to heaven, thence will I bring them down: Amos 9:2

Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the LORD. Obadiah 1:4

- it means literally climb to heaven (Jeremiah 51:53), as they tried to do in Babel. And it means it is possible to go as high as the (fig sized [Revelation 1:16,20, 2:1, 6:13, 12:1, Isaiah 34:4]) stars, among them, and even above them as the word of God says:

For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: Isaiah 14:13

That means it is possible to go above the stars of God, as many aircraft have done up to this day.

And this world is flat because all of the kingdoms of this world were seen from a very high mountain (Matthew 4:8). And the heaven above remains close, all the way to the ends of the earth in Antarctica, where Antarctica rises (Ecclesiastes 1:7) to meet the descending firmament, where heaven and earth meet (Deuteronomy 30:4, Matthew 24:31, Mark 13:27).

The (around six feet wide [Genesis 37:9,10, Revelation 12:1], few inches thick [Genesis 1:16, Isaiah 3:18 KJV]) sun rises (Psalms 19:1-6, Ecclesiastes 1:5) to a height of around 28.65 miles above sea level, due south of Jerusalem. From there it goes down and sets in the west, on Jerusalem, at a height of around 7.83 miles above sea level. Then it continues at that altitude, passing over the north, until it rises on Jerusalem in the east again, every day. Praise God.

What is called the canonical radius of the sun, from Georg Friedrich Julius Arthur Auwers in 1891, is 959.63" (arcseconds).

959.63" + 959.63" = 1,919.26" = diameter of the sun

1,919.26" ÷ 60" = 31.98767' (arcminutes)

31.98767' ÷ 60' = 0.5331278° (degree)

7,912.1767 statute miles (the claimed diameter of a sphere world) ÷ 864,575.6094 statute miles (the claimed diameter of the sun) = 0.00915152

0.5331278° × 0.00915152 = 0.0048789297°

0.5331278° − 0.0048789297° = 0.5282488703°

0.5282488703° ÷ 2 = 0.26412443515°

tan(0.26412443515°) = 0.0046098737

0.0046098737 × 6,214.209 statute miles (the distance from what is called the Geographical North Pole to the equator, on the Longitude 035.23474576724° E line) = 28.6467 statute miles is around the height of the sun above the equator, directly south of the center of the world (in the center of the holy of holies of the first temple that still stands [Psalms 78:68,69] on mount Zion, in position Latitude 31.77683954779° N Longitude 035.23474576724° E), in Jerusalem (Ezekiel 5:5, 38:12, Revelation 20:9), around March 20 and September 22

The distance from the Geographical North Pole to the north Geographical South Pole, on the Longitude 144.76525423276° W line, is 27.323954473516268615107010698011% of the distance from the Geographical North Pole to the south Geographical South Pole, on the Longitude 035.23474576724° E line.

28.6467 statute miles × 0.2732395447 = 7.8274 statute miles is around the height of the sun as it is set, passing over the north, above the equator, around March 20 and September 22

The largest and smallest angular diameters of the sun, from 2011 to 2030, are 1952.0" and 1887.6" (Planetary Ephemeris Data Courtesy of Fred Espenak, www.Astropixels.com), found from the page:

http://astropixels.com/ephemeris/ephemeris.html

1,952" ÷ 1,919.26" = 1.017058658

1,887.6" ÷ 1,919.26" = 0.983504059

28.6467 statute miles × 1.017058658 = 29.1354 statute miles is around the height of the sun above the Tropic of Cancer, directly south of the center of the world, in Jerusalem, around June 21

28.6467 statute miles × 0.983504059 = 28.1742 statute miles is around the height of the sun above the Tropic of Capricorn, directly south of the center of the world, in Jerusalem, around December 21

7.8274 statute miles × 1.017058658 = 7.9609 statute miles is around the height of the sun as it is set, passing over the north, above the Tropic of Cancer, around June 21

7.8274 statute miles × 0.983504059 = 7.6983 statute miles is around the height of the sun as it is set, passing over the north, above the Tropic of Capricorn, around December 21

The (around six feet wide [Genesis 1:16, 37:9,10, Revelation 12:1], few inches thick [Isaiah 3:18 KJV]) moon and the stars near the sun also have similar altitudes, as they run their courses in the firmament.

Glory to God.
Are you able to explain with more words, and less numbers? I think you conveyed a lot of information there, but too much for me to get the point of what you were saying.
 

NilsForChrist

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It is he that comprehends the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants in it are as grasshoppers; he that set up the heaven as a chamber, and stretched it out as a tent to dwell in Isaiah 40:22
 

MrE

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It is he that comprehends the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants in it are as grasshoppers; he that set up the heaven as a chamber, and stretched it out as a tent to dwell in Isaiah 40:22
Thank you, Grasshopper.

 

JesusLives

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Yes.

I have seen flat places on the earth and I can see that the earth is round when I look at pictures taken from space. I can see that the moon is also round when I look at it in the sky. Even though I don't always look directly at the sun I can also see that it is round when I watch a sunset.

So the earth is both round and flat depending on where you are and what you are looking at.
 

lonelysummer

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BTW....I think it likely that the moon landings did actually take place. Its probably too difficult a hoax to pull off.
A hoax that would involve NASA, pretty much every branch of government, the media..I would think after 50 years, some wag would have leaked the truth out. And probably been stoned to death for it.
 

GaryA

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A hoax that would involve NASA, pretty much every branch of government, the media..I would think after 50 years, some wag would have leaked the truth out. And probably been stoned to death for it.
The truth has been "leaked out" (told) - only, no one believes it... :rolleyes:
 

GaryA

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The truth has been "leaked out" (told) - only, no one believes it... :rolleyes:
If you heard it from someone who works for NASA, would you be any more likely to believe it?

What is more important - where you hear it from or whether or not it is the truth?
 

Clayman

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I see flat earth threads, and usually pass on by, a quick skim to see if people actually believe in a flat earth(which they are entitle to if they want) I got clicked baited by the title Buzz Aldrin admitting to a 7 year old child they never went to the moon, So I had to watch to see if it as title says, nope, he did say he does not know why they stopped going to the moon, which seems to be his context.

Im sure if he was at a school talking about going to the moon the rest of the video will show him talking about going to the moon, which to me shows how flat earthers maybe have also taken the line and the sinker.
 

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I see flat earth threads, and usually pass on by, a quick skim to see if people actually believe in a flat earth(which they are entitle to if they want) I got clicked baited by the title Buzz Aldrin admitting to a 7 year old child they never went to the moon, So I had to watch to see if it as title says, nope, he did say he does not know why they stopped going to the moon, which seems to be his context.

Im sure if he was at a school talking about going to the moon the rest of the video will show him talking about going to the moon, which to me shows how flat earthers maybe have also taken the line and the sinker.
It was an IQ test bro lol.....:geek:
 

MessengerofTruth

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@MessengerofTruth you should vote In the poll up at the top of this page.🥰
I am not completely sure...

I would lean more toward that it is flat. Because I know that there have been a great many deceptions foisted upon humanity from the beginning and to come according to Rev.18:23.

I Do Not trust the establishment.

I believe that Nasa has much to do with the deceptions that will Deceive all nations to be damned.

It is no time to let our guard down. Watch and Pray.
 
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I am not completely sure...

I would lean more toward that it is flat. Because I know that there have been a great many deceptions foisted upon humanity from the beginning and to come according to Rev.18:23.

I Do Not trust the establishment.

I believe that Nasa has much to do with the deceptions that will Deceive all nations to be damned.

It is no time to let our guard down. Watch and Pray.
There Is an option to vote -->other In the poll above at the top of this page.