Yale Professor: It's Time To Talk About "Forcing" Seniors To "Mass Suicide" (Dutch article has auto-translate)

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ZNP

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The only possible solution to keep the US solvent

Right now the total debt the US holds is equivalent to our GDP. You might be tempted to compare that to your mortgage, let's say you make $100k a year and the amount you owe on your house is 100k. You would think your finances are good. So therefore not too worried about US debt. This is a complete misunderstanding.

Let's say I buy a $400k house and put up $80k as downpayment and borrow $320k. My total debt is $320k, but my total assets are $400k so my net worth is positive, not negative.

No, the debt the US holds should be compared to credit card debt. Imagine you make $100k a year and your credit card debt is also $100k. That is the real situation.

Social Security and Medicare should be compared to your mortgage. These are supposed to be funded debt like a mortgage. You were supposed to have paid into this for forty years (which we did) before they need to pay out of it. However, they have looted Social Security.

There is only one way to avoid bankruptcy and that is if all the retired people were to die suddenly. However, there is a very big problem with this. Who is going to keep paying into Social Security and Medicare if you see they simply kill off all those who try to collect on that money?
 
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The only possible solution to keep the US solvent

Right now the total debt the US holds is equivalent to our GDP. You might be tempted to compare that to your mortgage, let's say you make $100k a year and the amount you owe on your house is 100k. You would think your finances are good. So therefore not too worried about US debt. This is a complete misunderstanding.

Let's say I buy a $400k house and put up $80k as downpayment and borrow $320k. My total debt is $320k, but my total assets are $400k so my net worth is positive, not negative.

No, the debt the US holds should be compared to credit card debt. Imagine you make $100k a year and your credit card debt is also $100k. That is the real situation.

Social Security and Medicare should be compared to your mortgage. These are supposed to be funded debt like a mortgage. You were supposed to have paid into this for forty years (which we did) before they need to pay out of it. However, they have looted Social Security.

There is only one way to avoid bankruptcy and that is if all the retired people were to die suddenly. However, there is a very big problem with this. Who is going to keep paying into Social Security and Medicare if you see they simply kill off all those who try to collect on that money?
Do you think a viable solution would be for every nation to forgive every other nation's debt?
 

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Do you think a viable solution would be for every nation to forgive every other nation's debt?
Seriously? The world is run by crooks, thieves, liars and murderers. Since when has the cartel ever forgiven anyone's debt? That would be great idea for a comedy, some guy owes the mob a whole lot of money and he asks do you think the boss would forgive the debt?

The only viable solution is the Lord's second coming and it is much, much closer than everyone of those sleeping realizes.
 
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Seriously? The world is run by crooks, thieves, liars and murderers. Since when has the cartel ever forgiven anyone's debt? That would be great idea for a comedy, some guy owes the mob a whole lot of money and he asks do you think the boss would forgive the debt?

The only viable solution is the Lord's second coming and it is much, much closer than everyone of those sleeping realizes.
I wasn't asking if it was realistic, but if it was implemented, would it actually work.

Never mind!
 

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Rule 1...Everyone is equal.
Rule 2...Some are more equal.
Rule 3 -- everyone who is less equal will be sold to the glue factory when it is most economic to do so.
 

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I wasn't asking if it was realistic, but if it was implemented, would it actually work.

Never mind!
The tribulation is the implementation of the forgiveness of debt. According to the bible once you are dead you are no longer liable for the debts (though you still must appear before God for the things you have done).

You can't have a simple "forgiveness of debt" worldwide because the corruption would be off the charts. People have gotten rich by stealing and murder. That has to be dealt with. Others will try and claim the "reparations" through lies and deceit. Only God and Jesus could sort through this mess.

If you want your debt forgiven call on Jesus and ask that His blood wash away your sins.
 

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The tribulation is the implementation of the forgiveness of debt. According to the bible once you are dead you are no longer liable for the debts (though you still must appear before God for the things you have done).

You can't have a simple "forgiveness of debt" worldwide because the corruption would be off the charts. People have gotten rich by stealing and murder. That has to be dealt with. Others will try and claim the "reparations" through lies and deceit. Only God and Jesus could sort through this mess.

If you want your debt forgiven call on Jesus and ask that His blood wash away your sins.
The Israelite's had rather interesting policy concerning debt. All was forgiven every seven years. Can you imagine that in effect today?
 

ZNP

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The Israelite's had rather interesting policy concerning debt. All was forgiven every seven years. Can you imagine that in effect today?
It wasn't in effect then. God punished Israel because they didn't give the land their sabbaths.

Forgiving debt prevents banks from becoming a cancer to society.

Right now banks want debt to be increased, but back then if you kept the sabbaths you knew that debt would go to 0 every seven years. So that is a bad plan.

Also the biggest source of debt is war. If banks can't profit off of war you decrease the wars dramatically.

If you actually practiced this then people would live within their means and we wouldn't have had wars.
 

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https://newspunch-com.translate.goo...l=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp


I wonder if he includes his parents in that equation?

Speaking of satanists.

Bill Gates, who is aligned with Klaus Schwab and the World Economic Forum,WEF, Tells World Leaders ‘Death Panels’ Will Soon Be Required.
https://rumble.com/v1wb0ce-bill-gates-tells-world-leaders-death-panels-will-soon-be-required.html
The new age movement will eventually be the standard religion in the world with all nations governments supporting them it is only a matter of time.

The new age movement interprets the Bible and religions according to the occult and evolution, and people are still evolving to be spiritual, and Jesus evolved to be an ascended master, and there is no personal God, and the New Age Christ is the final teacher.

They push homosexuality, transgender in society, for population reduction, even trying to confuse children about their gender, and invite them to gay pride events, and drag queen shows.

Which American Girl Doll Company has a book about making the transition to the opposite sex and if they are confused taking puberty blockers until they decide.

They believe when people evolve there is no male and female for they are spiritual, and there is no single approach to gender and sexuality, and they want to reduce the population so there is not that many people on Earth when they evolve along with the New Age Christ.

Which eventually there will be a world wide law that a man and woman cannot come together but they will not care for they will be following the new age movement so they can evolve to be spiritual.

The occult is the most dangerous belief system in the history of mankind for it is all about trying to harness the power of nature to exalt themselves above other people.

The new age movement is the worse occult belief system in the history of mankind and they will go against all people who oppose them looking at them as a disease they must get rid of for peace and harmony on the planet like the body fights diseases to get rid of them for the normal functioning of the body.

So it would make sense for them to have a death panel because of their desire to lower the population, a worse behavior in arrogance and self exaltation than at any other time in history, and believing they are doing the will of nature which they call the God of forces to do this.

Which the Bible says the New Age Christ, antichrist, last king, by peace shall destroy many for he will stir up the people against certain people to get rid of them for peace on Earth which they will agree to and will not care about the cruelty because they are following the new age movement believing this is what nature wants them to do for that is their higher power.

But they would not implement a death panel at this time for they want a one world government and it has to start off as a good thing, or else they could not get the people of the world to embrace it.

But they would institute the death panel while the one world government is operating for a while as the New Age Christ is influencing them with the new age movement which one of the agendas is to reduce the population.

If they were to try to institute a system like that now they would quickly be shut down by the masses of people and the new age movement could not advance its plan.

They could not do it before the one world government for it would not work but when the one world government starts operating it will become more totalitarian and the people more influenced by the new age movement believing the power of nature is their higher power that they must obey so the masses of people would agree to it then.

But I do not think they are proposing the death panel as some think they are doing for it would not make sense for the elitists to right out say get rid of the elderly.

They might do it during the one world government as their agenda is to reduce the population by not allowing a man and a woman to come together, the New Age Christ stirring up people to go against the people that is going contrary to them which is mainly Christians, Muslims, and Judaism, all along with all the other people because they are upsetting peace and harmony on Earth and they are a disease they must get rid of, starvation, or whatever the New Age Christ stirs them up to do.

But the devil is going to wreck havoc on Earth which the world embracing the new age movement caused it to happen which it is of seducing spirits and doctrines of devils, which will cause the devils to be cast to Earth and the Earth becomes the habitation of devils, and they deceive all people who do not love God which is the strong delusion that God will give the people who love not the truth but have pleasure in unrighteousness.

God said about the new age movement that their conscious is seared with a hot iron as there is no mercy, or compassion with them, for they cut out a personal God so there is no God to fear, no God to offend, no God to punish, and no showing compassion of God, but it is all about the exaltation of people.

Where the occult of the past kingdoms believed in a God so it kept them at bay, and they would show some kind of compassion at times.

The Bible says the time will come when they will not want to hear the truth of the Bible but according to their own lusts, which is the new age movement.

Which the new age movement will come out at the latter times.

But it had to be for God is getting ready to end sin on Earth so He is allowing the New Age Christ to deceive the people who do not love Him.
 
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The tribulation is the implementation of the forgiveness of debt. According to the bible once you are dead you are no longer liable for the debts (though you still must appear before God for the things you have done).

You can't have a simple "forgiveness of debt" worldwide because the corruption would be off the charts. People have gotten rich by stealing and murder. That has to be dealt with. Others will try and claim the "reparations" through lies and deceit. Only God and Jesus could sort through this mess.

If you want your debt forgiven call on Jesus and ask that His blood wash away your sins.
We were talking about financial obligations. So umm... thanks?