Sometimes A Person Can Misunderstand What The Scriptures Are Saying

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Pilgrimshope

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Apparently, we were all annihilated a long time ago. :confused:
a o we were made alive and then we followed exactly what our creator said would bring us death and so we die now because we’re sinful

that’s why we need jesus and the resurrection from death brother

notice the gospel is all about being saved from something ?

Being reconciled to the original living state with God ?

“For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭5:10‬ ‭KJV‬‬


God gave man made man to live and warned him of death

, and man followed satans word intended to cause them to die saying “ Gods word about the fruit isn’t true I’ll tell you the truth “

The source of man’s death is that we won’t hear Gods word of life and refuse the devil when he whispers it isn’t true

That’s all I was saying brother I’m not really sure what the man made labels like “ annihilationism” really even means to each individual so I’m not sure about that I know that myself I believe in the completion of Gods plan the case will be this

“And I saw a new heaven and a new earth:

for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭21:1‬ ‭KJV‬‬

and this

“And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭21:4-5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I personally my own belief used to be eternal suffering and damnation when I first came here but I had a few discussions and people actually were showing me and discussing scripture that completely changed my mind and convinced me that hell is temporary and where wicked people pay thier dues and the lake of fire is about the second death of the spiritual things and after that punishment the wicked will pass with the old things


imagine how someone in heaven could ever live at peace if thier son or daughter brother uncle friends were suffering in torment forever without any hope

But if God in the end destroys it all and it’s no longer remembered what remains would be perfect and peaceful and everyone would know only thoer eternal family no sorrow no death no suffering forever no sin no murder theft rape adultery no one doing harm to anyone else and no mothers crying fornthier lost children in torment

I don’t believe God ever intended for eve I’m and wickedness to last for eternity even in torment I believe he’s intending and will eradicate every source and servant of evil so we will have a perfect eternal creation no sin and death

But like I said that’s my own belief from the scriptures I myself know about and how I understand them all myself , doesn’t mean someone who thinks different is wrong or a heretic or anything lol that’s just what I think after I done some thinkin’
 

Pilgrimshope

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In a sense that is true. We are all Adam's descendants and have inherited the sin nature. Because of that we will die, unless we accept Jesus as our personal savior who died as the required penalty for our sins. If we accept His death as the penalty for our sins, then we are granted eternal life.
brillaint but what if we keep serving the devils Will in the world like lying cheating and stealing ?
 
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Quite the opposite, I'm afraid.
Why are you so dishonest? I wrote, "I did not use the word "annihilation" in my post. Why are you distorting what I wrote?"

You claimed that I wrote, "are you distorting what I wrote?"

Is Satan controlling you?
 
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brillaint but what if we keep serving the devils Will in the world like lying cheating and stealing ?
"If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left". Hebrews 10:26

Read your Bible!
 

Pilgrimshope

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"If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left". Hebrews 10:26

Read your Bible!
Yes I’ve given it a look or two friend lol
when you lie or steal or cheat is it against your Will someone else making you do it or a willful choice ?
 
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"If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left". Hebrews 10:26

Read your Bible!
I agree that deliberate sin will cause a falling away from God. However, who’s definition of sin? The sins against God’s Biblical commands? The church’s definition? Which church? Different denominations have differing views of sin, just look at the 10 commandments of the Roman Catholic church vs Protestant denominations.
 

Nehemiah6

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God does not desire anyone to perish but to come to repentance (2Peter 3:9). They are smashed to pieces from dawn to dusk; unnoticed, they perish forever.-Job 4:20
So why did you not complete the though by telling us that the UNREPENTANT face eternal damnation? That is a given. But don't blame God for that.
 

Mem

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So why did you not complete the though by telling us that the UNREPENTANT face eternal damnation? That is a given. But don't blame God for that.
I keep forgetting how tiresome it is to keep defining damnation as I see it, because I wronly assume that others I've spoken with keep that in mind. If death is damnation, and it is forever, and if forever is eternal, then death is eternal damnation.
 

Pilgrimshope

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I agree that deliberate sin will cause a falling away from God. However, who’s definition of sin? The sins against God’s Biblical commands? The church’s definition? Which church? Different denominations have differing views of sin, just look at the 10 commandments of the Roman Catholic church vs Protestant denominations.
Sin is always willful until we acknolwedge its sinful and repent

repentance has a tinge to it that involves regretting deeply something you’ve already done and you repent in your heart because it was wrong and caused harm hurt feelings ect .

Repentance isn’t relevant until we’ve done something wrong is my point , it isn’t to swear to either perfection or death ahead , but is to repent for what you’ve done behind