America is already China's captive!

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HealthAndHappiness

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Why? Once the .......start falling you only have 3 1/2 years at most, and most low level radiation will take that long if not longer to kill you. Besides, you'll probably be beheaded in the first two years anyway.

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Have you seen this?
I hope it doesn't come to this, but if it does...


 

maxwel

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Don't fear, I've decided to take action.

In retaliation, I've already launched my own balloon, heading straight at China.
It's mylar, and it says Happy Birthday... that should really confuse them.

I'm not sure it'll make it all the way to China...
but if they think we're completely crazy, that might back them off.

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Cameron143

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Don't fear, I've decided to take action.

In retaliation, I've already launched my own balloon, heading straight at China.
It's mylar, and it says Happy Birthday... that should really confuse them.

I'm not sure it'll make it all the way to China...
but if they think we're completely crazy, that might back them off.

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You should have had a backup message in a bottle.
 

Cameron143

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That's why you're here Cameron... I don't always think of everything.
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I have no doubt that if you had, it would have been a very well-reasoned and articulate message
 

Dude653

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Hurt us how? Things get more expensive, so what. Can't get a bunch of cheap junk from Walmart? So what.
Sanctioning China would cripple our economy because America buys pretty much everything from China
 

ZNP

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Sanctioning China would cripple our economy because America buys pretty much everything from China
So what, it would simply force us to find new suppliers or to start manufacturing again at home. Where are all those people so concerned about climate change? Everything you buy that is made in China has a much bigger carbon footprint because they ship them to us across the Pacific ocean and often we first ship the raw materials to them. We outsourced our manufacturing to China because it was cheaper. Now we have 3d printers and robots and AI, doubt it is cheaper any longer, especially once you impose a carbon tax. The US used to be a manufacturing powerhouse, we can return to that.

Do you realize the interest we pay on our debt that China holds equals their annual military budget? Americans are financing the army that will invade Taiwan and the US. Do you realize the chips they make for appliances and other devices spy on people and the same with their apps, phones, etc. Why would we continue doing business with someone like that.

China is a bully stealing our lunch money, it is time to man up and take a stand.
 

Dude653

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So what, it would simply force us to find new suppliers or to start manufacturing again at home. Where are all those people so concerned about climate change? Everything you buy that is made in China has a much bigger carbon footprint because they ship them to us across the Pacific ocean and often we first ship the raw materials to them. We outsourced our manufacturing to China because it was cheaper. Now we have 3d printers and robots and AI, doubt it is cheaper any longer, especially once you impose a carbon tax. The US used to be a manufacturing powerhouse, we can return to that.

Do you realize the interest we pay on our debt that China holds equals their annual military budget? Americans are financing the army that will invade Taiwan and the US. Do you realize the chips they make for appliances and other devices spy on people and the same with their apps, phones, etc. Why would we continue doing business with someone like that.

China is a bully stealing our lunch money, it is time to man up and take a stand.
We made our own proverbial bed. Maybe America shouldn't have made itself so dependent on Chinese products
I didn't vote for Donald Trump but he was talking about this 30 years ago
 

ZNP

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We made our own proverbial bed. Maybe America shouldn't have made itself so dependent on Chinese products
I didn't vote for Donald Trump but he was talking about this 30 years ago
Yes, and now it is time to wake up, get out of bed, and get back to work.
 

Blade

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I watched a video I think it was 5 years old maybe more where this preacher was talking to Christ (take it with a grain of salt) and asked about China .. what blew me away was what he said then ...well at that time you would not believe it. Yet today? Wow he was spot on. How China would grow and what countries China would get into. Said its what must happen. The only think holding back the lawless one is the Church but in this world USA.. yet its growing weaker. Like another mans vision what in the 50's talked about USA standing tall yet she keeps slipping gets back up.. then slips gets back up yet wobbling more and more till shes barley standing
 

Gideon300

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What information is a spy balloon going to gather though? It's just going to see everyone doing everyday stuff like going to work
There is much more information to gather than what can be seen. You should assume that every word that you say on your mobile phone is public. Maybe your calls are mundane, but what about the military or politicians? Intelligence gathering builds a picture. Much of the information is useless, but some is gold. All governments spy. The better organisations conceal important information and discover what matters to them. It's as much a war as fighting with guns and missiles.
 

Gideon300

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That is one plausible theory.

However, it doesn't explain the ship with the nuclear missiles parked off the East coast, or the submarines parked off both East and West coast. Nor does it explain the Chinese ships down by the Galapagos islands.

Russia cannot afford to wait another year, if they do we could possibly have had major victories in that time. China and Russia have already divested of US bonds, bought up gold and started BRICS, that is preparing for the aftermath of life without the US. Russia is already claiming they have evidence of US war crimes in Ukraine, that is all they need to justify an attack. The evidence of the vaccine being deadly is the other compelling evidence that the whole world would agree with.

If you were Russia and China how would you respond if you had evidence the pandemic was a US bioweapon and the vaccine was also a bioweapon?
Since when have countries like China and Russia needed evidence? They fabricate a plausible tale then lie until everyone believes it. Does it work? Sure, for a time. Ask Joseph Goebbels.
 

ZNP

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There is much more information to gather than what can be seen. You should assume that every word that you say on your mobile phone is public. Maybe your calls are mundane, but what about the military or politicians? Intelligence gathering builds a picture. Much of the information is useless, but some is gold. All governments spy. The better organisations conceal important information and discover what matters to them. It's as much a war as fighting with guns and missiles.
Your conversations are not mundane. Your phone tells them who goes to church Sunday morning. If you go to home meetings, prayer meetings or are a member of a ministry they will know it.

When they have a Christian they want to target they can then find out every person that this Christian meets with based on the phones. They are planning on rolling out the mark of the beast, they know the Christians will be the problem, so they are putting together a black list of everyone they anticipate will be a problem. They can use Facebook and all social media posts. Even if you don't post, are you going to a meeting with someone who does?

Haman has built a gallows that he wants to hang all the believers on. February 27th all the countries will sign over sovereignty to the W.H.O to handle future pandemics (ie the gallows). Feb 27 is Adar 6, Adar 13 is the date in Esther when they planned on killing all the Jews. That could be the event that the rapture snatches us out of the certain death. The Feast of Purim is the 14th, the appointed day and the full moon.
 

2ndTimeIsTheCharm

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I think all this stuff with China are the globalists' effort to try to drive the US into joining up with the EU. It's just bad either way.

China is just playing along with the globalist's wishes, but when the AC shows up, the kings of the East (China, Japan, N&S Korea, India and the SEA countries) will cross the dried up Euphrates to fight him. Unfortunately, when Jesus shows up, they'll take the AC's side to try to fight against Him.

I'm honestly sad about that. Asia has never really had much Christian influence (because of deeply engrained traditions) so I've been praying for them a LOT. :cry:
 

ZNP

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I think all this stuff with China are the globalists' effort to try to drive the US into joining up with the EU. It's just bad either way.

China is just playing along with the globalist's wishes, but when the AC shows up, the kings of the East (China, Japan, N&S Korea, India and the SEA countries) will cross the dried up Euphrates to fight him. Unfortunately, when Jesus shows up, they'll take the AC's side to try to fight against Him.

I'm honestly sad about that. Asia has never really had much Christian influence (because of deeply engrained traditions) so I've been praying for them a LOT. :cry:
If the kings from the East go to the Middle East to take over, where is the USA?

Why is it that you can see references to China, Russia, Europe in Revelation, but not to the USA?

I think a strong case can be made that the "Great Babylon" in Revelation 18 is referring to the US and that the US is destroyed in 1 hour at the start of the 70th week.
 

2ndTimeIsTheCharm

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If the kings from the East go to the Middle East to take over, where is the USA?

Why is it that you can see references to China, Russia, Europe in Revelation, but not to the USA?

I think a strong case can be made that the "Great Babylon" in Revelation 18 is referring to the US and that the US is destroyed in 1 hour at the start of the 70th week.
I'll be honest, I don't want to say anything about the US because it's too "close" to me. I mean this is my country - I live here and I love it.

But I will say that I think the US will no longer be a world power. I think China could easily bomb/attack the Pacific side of the country. California is the greatest producer of goods in the US after all. New York City and Washington DC aren't safe either because they're easy port targets and might be bombed as well, not necessarily by China, but other enemies that are closer on the Atlantic side. What's worse is that our government won't do anything to fight back. They'll all be safe in their bunkers somewhere out of nuclear range.

Whatever is left of the US will have to join the one world government quite possibly through the EU.

So you could be right. The US just might be the Great Babylon, but I'm hoping it isn't and I don't want to contemplate the outcome in any greater detail.
 

ThyKingdomComeSoon

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What information is a spy balloon going to gather though? It's just going to see everyone doing everyday stuff like going to work
the ballons passed over miltary bases, they are gathering info!
 

shittim

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Rumor mill said we fired missiles that were knocked out electronically, we waited till it got off the coast to shoot it down, and this tech was what the CCP is sharing with the king of the north.
 

gb9

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Rumor mill said we fired missiles that were knocked out electronically, we waited till it got off the coast to shoot it down, and this tech was what the CCP is sharing with the king of the north.
interesting take.