When A Person Is Born Again, I Believe Thee LORD Enable Them To Hear, See And Do Things First Seeking The Kingdom/Scriptures

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Everlasting-Grace

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awelight said:
Again, thanks for the lively banter but this post does not address my post, it only furthers you view without questioning or asking about the points on there merits.

Be well.
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Lol
another one if you believed the truth you would believe me

You explain how you saw John 3.

I axplained how I disagreed.. and what born in the spirit and in the flesh means in response to your statment.

Then you said it did not address my post.

go again, Again run.. You just further as many other conversations I have had with a fatalistic view. Made me stronger in my faith because you can not counter my arguments.
 
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awelight

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Everlasting-Grace said:
Lol
another one if you believed the truth you would believe me

You explain how you saw John 3.

I axplained how I disagreed.. and what born in the spirit and in the flesh means in response to your statment.

Then you said it did not address my post.

go again, Again run.. You just further as many other conversations I have had with a fatalistic view. Made me stronger in my faith because you can not counter my arguments.
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Forgive me Lord

But you really are full of yourself aren't you?
 
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awelight said:
You completely missed the point.

We have no say so in our conception - it is decided for us. Therefore, our physical birth is not decided by us.
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awelight said:
Again, thanks for the lively banter but this post does not address my post, it only furthers you view without questioning or asking about the points on there merits.

Be well.
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I have found that when people cannot hear you, it is better to pray and wait on the LORD to open the eyes of their understanding.

It is better to try to keep the bond of unity than to be heard or right on any point.

I respect you for being able to lay this down for now.

May the LORD bless you and bring all of us to the knowledge of the Truth that is in Him.
 
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Everlasting-Grace

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awelight said:
Forgive me Lord

But you really are full of yourself aren't you?
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I am not sure where that first sentence came from. But it was supposed to say something else.. I can;t even remember what it was now..

It does not detract from the rest of my post though. You said I did not address your post. i did.
 
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Everlasting-Grace said:
I am not sure where that first sentence came from. But it was supposed to say something else.. I can;t even remember what it was now..

It does not detract from the rest of my post though. You said I did not address your post. i did.
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Did you, perhaps, somehow accidently delete the phrase "of those" after writing 'Another one'?
 
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Everlasting-Grace

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Mem said:
Did you, perhaps, somehow accidently delete the phrase "of those" after writing 'Another one'?
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spell check got me someowhere and corrected and changed what I said.. I do not remember what I meant to say.

I openly admit that was an error..
 
Pilgrimshope

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awelight said:
I think that part is already clearly understood. But Justification starts and ends with what God hath done.
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amen that’s a great point

“But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: for all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past,( we need to put sin behind us as well ) through the forbearance of God; to declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law?

of works? Nay:

but by the law of faith. Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith

without the deeds of the law.


Do we ( Christians) then make void the law through faith?

God forbid: yea, we establish the law.”( of faith )
‭‭Romans‬ ‭3:21-28, 31‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The rest of the New Testament is all true as well
 
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