Genesis 1:1 What is your interpretation?

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Just wondering about some input to stimulate this group. Does it support science?
 

Cameron143

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Just wondering about some input to stimulate this group. Does it support science?
The better question might be...does science support creation? The error of science isn't that it can't support the truth of the Bible but that it purposefully seeks to deny it. And to do so, it has to contradict in many cases its own previous conclusions.
 
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You will discover true Science always verifies the Word of God because the Word of God is the Inspired Truth.

Jesus said God made Male and Female and the union of both create Life.

Homosexuals claim Science proves they are genetically designed and created naturally.

But let's take a very quick look at Evolution.

Let's get to the heart of the matter and begin with NATURAL SELECTION:

NATURAL SELECTION is picking and choosing random genetitics and traits to continue the evolving Species. That means NATURAL SELECTION would kill any homosexual genetics because those genetitics produce the Species that cannot keep the Tree of Life ALIVE.

So NATURAL SELECTION would destroy any genetitics that desired same sex and would not help to continue the Species chances for survival by continuing to produce life.

Truly, Evolution is another tool that shows us God's Word is Truth and for a Species to survive means it requires Male and Female attracted to one another.
 

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Just wondering about some input to stimulate this group. Does it support science?
My take on Genesis is that it is history. Every day there is new evidence for the creation and Flood accounts.
 

Nehemiah6

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Just wondering about some input to stimulate this group. Does it support science?
Genesis 1:1 is DIVINE REVELATION. It supersedes science.

At the same time, it is God who has created the natural laws which underlie all sciences. Therefore there is no conflict between true science and divine revelation. God literally created the whole universe out of nothing. Christ simply SPOKE the worlds into existence. And everything was created in a perfect form. Nothing "evolved" after that. The theory of evolution is based upon speculation, and a desire to avoid the significance of divine creation and all that follows. And "Theistic Evolution" is just nonsense.
 

soberxp

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True science itself is not in contradiction with God. It is contradictory that man uses false scientific theories to deny the existence of the Creator.
 

soberxp

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True science itself is not in contradiction with God. It is contradictory that man uses false scientific theories to deny the existence of the Creator.
Observation is the beginning of everything to understand things, you can try to observe everything with your own point of view, for example, you can think that there is no science in the world, only magic.
 
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Here is the answer:

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning (time) God (who) created (energy) the heavens (space) and the earth (matter), This is how a loving God tells the shepherds of old what he truly did. This is the simplicity of the gospel in its purest form. God made it simple, while man complicates it because we are all living in a fallen world.
 

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Here is the answer:

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning (time) God (who) created (energy) the heavens (space) and the earth (matter), This is how a loving God tells the shepherds of old what he truly did. This is the simplicity of the gospel in its purest form. God made it simple, while man complicates it because we are all living in a fallen world.
Seems to me, you're the one making it complicated.
 
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Here is the answer:

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning (time) God (who) created (energy) the heavens (space) and the earth (matter), This is how a loving God tells the shepherds of old what he truly did. This is the simplicity of the gospel in its purest form. God made it simple, while man complicates it because we are all living in a fallen world.
So you were looking for a mathematical formula using the specific factors in the Verse you quote?

I am one that believes mathematics and science are separate entities.

Mathematics on its own will always survive.

Science without Mathematics is Opinion and becomes Void and Useless.

Ok, so write up the formula so I can see what you are thinking..
 

soberxp

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Here is the answer:

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning (time) God (who) created (energy) the heavens (space) and the earth (matter), This is how a loving God tells the shepherds of old what he truly did. This is the simplicity of the gospel in its purest form. God made it simple, while man complicates it because we are all living in a fallen world.
I remember someone saying in a mathematical or scientific way that water is a wave, any matter is explained in the current scientific frontier,Something smaller than an atom is a wave,The vibrations of waves make up all kinds of matter, so if this theory is correct, the God did walk on water(wave) in the beginning.

创世记
1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

So we need to be baptized by water, to be transformed into another form of being
 

soberxp

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Here is the answer:

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning (time) God (who) created (energy) the heavens (space) and the earth (matter), This is how a loving God tells the shepherds of old what he truly did. This is the simplicity of the gospel in its purest form. God made it simple, while man complicates it because we are all living in a fallen world.
I remember someone saying in a mathematical or scientific way that water is a wave, any matter is explained in the current scientific frontier,Something smaller than an atom is a wave,The vibrations of waves make up all kinds of matter, so if this theory is correct, the God did walk on water(wave) in the beginning.

创世记
1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

So we need to be baptized by water, to be transformed into another form of being

We are flesh or matters because we have fallen from the heaven (another form of wave)
 
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Ive taught a whole bible study on this one verse.
A simple verse at first glance...becomes one of the most informative verses written. Answering many questions.

1 ..in it it explains the trinity.
2...it answers the question... did God use evolution.
3....it uses the 3 things that are needed for such a event.
4... it also shows a intelligence far beyond mans ability when it was written.

Simple yet profound.
 

CS1

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Just wondering about some input to stimulate this group. Does it support science?
Science:
MAN'S ATTEMPT BY:
knowledge attained through study or practice," or "knowledge covering general truths of the operation of general laws, esp. as obtained and tested through scientific method.

Genesis 1:1 IS God saying: God is the First Cause uncaused.
 

soberxp

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Ive taught a whole bible study on this one verse.
A simple verse at first glance...becomes one of the most informative verses written. Answering many questions.

1 ..in it it explains the trinity.
2...it answers the question... did God use evolution.
3....it uses the 3 things that are needed for such a event.
4... it also shows a intelligence far beyond mans ability when it was written.

Simple yet profound.
That's why Jesus told others not to touch him after his resurrection, when he was still transforming.He is no longer the flesh.
 
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Genesis 1:1 What is your interpretation?

Just wondering about some input to stimulate this group. Does it support science?
Psalm 33:6-9 By the word of the LORD were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth. He gathereth the waters of the sea together as an heap: he layeth up the depth in storehouses. Let all the earth fear the LORD: let all the inhabitants of the world stand in awe of him. For he spake, and it was done; he commanded, and it stood fast.


Hebrews 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.


If/when a scientist acknowledges there is a Creator and humbly comes to Him in faith, that scientist will come to understand what simple-minded believers have, by faith, known all along. :cool:

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2ndTimeIsTheCharm

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So you were looking for a mathematical formula using the specific factors in the Verse you quote?

I am one that believes mathematics and science are separate entities.

Mathematics on its own will always survive.

Science without Mathematics is Opinion and becomes Void and Useless.

Ok, so write up the formula so I can see what you are thinking..
I don't think he was looking for a mathematical formula? He was linking the bible verse to basic science concepts, that's all.

I also don't see him separating mathematics from science. Mathematics is the language of the universe after all.

[I was a math major, with a minor in computer science before I made it into a competitive nursing school.]
 
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The better question might be...does science support creation? The error of science isn't that it can't support the truth of the Bible but that it purposefully seeks to deny it. And to do so, it has to contradict in many cases its own previous conclusions.
On the contrary, science does prove the bible. This is the pollution of our public schools, teaching secular science. This site will answer all of your questions from the simple ones to the much more complicated ones. I use this site for research. I hope this help in broadening your understanding of science and the bible. https://www.icr.org/
 

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On the contrary, science does prove the bible. This is the pollution of our public schools, teaching secular science. This site will answer all of your questions from the simple ones to the much more complicated ones. I use this site for research. I hope this help in broadening your understanding of science and the bible. https://www.icr.org/
I agree. That was my point.