Christian Nationalists Have Forgotten Their First Priority

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ZNP

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I'm not saying all Christians are like this but Christian nationalism is this idea that only Christianity is supposed to be relevant in America and if you're not christian, your rights don't matter
Wow, "if you're not Christian, your rights don't matter"? Sure sounds like something straight out of Hitler, Stalin and the AntiChrist playbook.

Hitler made these same claims but he worshipped the occult. These are simply fallen angels hiding under a cloak of an angel of light.
 

Nehemiah6

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I'm not saying all Christians are like this but Christian nationalism is this idea that only Christianity is supposed to be relevant in America and if you're not christian, your rights don't matter
That is simply a nonsensical statement. You should have reversed that an said "If you are a Christian in America your rights don't matter". Do you recall how that Christian baker was PERSECUTED AND HARASSED for refusing to bake a cake for homosexuals? Now he is being sued again.

Christian Baker Sued Again for Refusing to Bake a Cake
https://www.christianitytoday.com/n...baker-jack-phillips-sued-lgbt-cake-court.html

The perverts have more rights than Christians and conservatives. So here is a case where this baker would be better off joining the Christian Nationalists and moving to Idaho.
 

2ndTimeIsTheCharm

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Wow, "if you're not Christian, your rights don't matter"? Sure sounds like something straight out of Hitler, Stalin and the AntiChrist playbook.

Hitler made these same claims but he worshipped the occult. These are simply fallen angels hiding under a cloak of an angel of light.

I think WWII is a precursor to the last days. Remember the Holocaust? There will be one for Christians.
 

Underwhosewings

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Telling Christians that they should not withdraw from society sounds like what the Puritans would have been told by those who were against them leaving Europe.

How about Abraham. Was he wrong for withdrawing from the Babylonian society and going to Israel?
Jeremiah 29:4-7 KJV

Thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel, unto all that are carried away captives, whom I have caused to be carried away from Jerusalem unto Babylon;
[5] Build ye houses, and dwell in them ; and plant gardens, and eat the fruit of them;
[6] Take ye wives, and beget sons and daughters; and take wives for your sons, and give your daughters to husbands, that they may bear sons and daughters; that ye may be increased there, and not diminished.
[7] And seek the peace of the city whither I have caused you to be carried away captives, and pray unto the Lord for it: for in the peace thereof shall ye have peace.
 

ZNP

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Jeremiah 29:4-7 KJV

Thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel, unto all that are carried away captives, whom I have caused to be carried away from Jerusalem unto Babylon;
[5] Build ye houses, and dwell in them ; and plant gardens, and eat the fruit of them;
[6] Take ye wives, and beget sons and daughters; and take wives for your sons, and give your daughters to husbands, that they may bear sons and daughters; that ye may be increased there, and not diminished.
[7] And seek the peace of the city whither I have caused you to be carried away captives, and pray unto the Lord for it: for in the peace thereof shall ye have peace.
Yes, and 70 years later return to Israel.
 

ResidentAlien

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The main problem with Christian nationalism is it uses fear to manipulate and control people. True Christianity brings joy, peace and love. Yeah, the world might be going to hell, but the Lord said fear not.
 

ZNP

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Yes, and 70 years later return to Israel.
The key principle is what the Lord shared

Luke 9:4 And into whatsoever house ye enter, there abide, and thence depart. 5 And as many as receive you not, when ye depart from that city, shake off the dust from your feet for a testimony against them. 6 And they departed, and went throughout the villages, preaching the gospel, and healing everywhere.


We are ambassadors of the kingdom, if people receive this then yes, build up a church congregation, preach the word, teach. Pray for the rulers.

Luke 10: 5 And into whatsoever house ye shall enter, first say, Peace be to this house. 6 And if a son of peace be there, your peace shall rest upon [c]him: but if not, it shall turn to you again. 7 And in that same house remain, eating and drinking such things as they give: for the laborer is worthy of his hire. Go not from house to house. 8 And into whatsoever city ye enter, and they receive you, eat such things as are set before you: 9 and heal the sick that are therein, and say unto them, The kingdom of God is come nigh unto you. 10 But into whatsoever city ye shall enter, and they receive you not, go out into the streets thereof and say, 11 Even the dust from your city, that cleaveth to our feet, we wipe off against you: nevertheless know this, that the kingdom of God is come nigh.

The vaccine mandate is one example of them not receiving you. Shutting down churches, passing laws that would require a church or Christian school to allow trans men and women use any bathroom they please is another example. Making the gospel hate speech is another. Arresting people for praying quietly is another.

Mark 6:11 And whatsoever place shall not receive you, and they hear you not, as ye go forth thence, shake off the dust that is under your feet for a testimony unto them.

We are not required to "convince" people. If they will not hear you then shake off the dust and move on.

Matthew 10:14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, as ye go forth out of that house or that city, shake off the dust of your feet.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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I think that this fear of christian nationalism is really a fear of the Magdeburge Confession being used against modern statolatry as it was crafted against the pope.
 

Billyd

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The main problem with Christian nationalism is it uses fear to manipulate and control people. True Christianity brings joy, peace and love. Yeah, the world might be going to hell, but the Lord said fear not.
Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality,
Gal 5:20 idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions,
Gal 5:21 envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
Gal 5:23 gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law.
Gal 5:24 And those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
Gal 5:25 If we live by the Spirit, let us also keep in step with the Spirit.
Gal 5:26 Let us not become conceited, provoking one another, envying one another.

I wonder how many on this thread have crucified the flesh and belong to Christ Jesus. I don't see much fruit.
 

ResidentAlien

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I wonder how many on this thread have crucified the flesh and belong to Christ Jesus. I don't see much fruit.
Can you be more specific? What motivates you to write something like this?
 
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Locoponydirtman

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Can you be more specific? What motivates you to write something like this?
When ever someone says something like what he said, i think they are probably gaslighting.