Why Moses and Elijah were at the transfiguration.

Boy O boy @VARob ....more contradiction

Let's leave it while shall we because I can see this is not a subject you have got a handle on at all.

I will pause for a while.

F2F

No I haven't.

The Bible NEVER describes Jesus Christ as being condemned, except by those who wanted him dead.

The victory is in his resurrection.

There is no contradiction.

Paul NEVER describes Jesus as being condemned.

There is no contradiction.

lol

Thank you.

Hi cv5,

Thank you, I do see that John says there were 2 angels who appeared to Mary, however Luke records what the women with the spices saw - 2 men.

A telling statement. I would urge everyone on the thread to mark it, be wary, and proceed with caution!

A bizarre and unbiblical assessment.

Picture yourself standing.
The water is the feet.Walk on water right?
The spirit is the heart.
The blood is the head.And it's the cap stone.
The arms and legs are the poles, and the sockets holding them in are the 4 rings.
Then where's the crown of gold round about that represents the 12 tribes of Israel on the Ark of the Covenant?it's the ribs.
Remember,left side, and the back of our bodies are in the image of the old covenant, and the right side and front of our bodies are in the image of the new Covenant.12 ribs for each Covenant.Eve is in the image of the new Covenant.The blood came from the rib.

Matthew 23:37-39
O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

The crown of gold is gathered around about the mercy seat, and the two Cherubim on the Ark of the Covenant.
Our hair is the curtain veil,revealing the divinity of Christ.
Where's the top lid of the Ark that represents the earth?It's us.We are from the dust.
The prophets of God get stoned in the flesh, and God stones them in the spirit to build his Church. At the head is the capstone.

This is why I'm starting to believe more and more that New Jerusalem is spiritual.

Think about it.On earth as it is in heaven.In heaven,meaning the spiritual things.If Jesus is the head of the Church then keep your mind on the things of God.Otherwise you know who will want to replace him.When you don't have your mind on the things of God,the worldly mind takes over and goes to and fro walking the earth.
Don't be like satan when asked where did he come from.
Walk in the spirit,not in the world.
You can't escape the flesh.You were born of the flesh.We all fall short of the glory of God.
Our bodies need sleep.That means we also fall asleep in the spirit,everyday. You're always being tempted by satan,daily.
The mind keeps wanting to be of the world is what I'm saying and it wont stop till we are in our new bodies.

'if A then B' does not mean B implies A


His having laid down His life is not proof that He in the flesh was sinful and worthy of condemnation.

On what basis is the accusation false?

masquerade.

"it is not possible that God should lie"

so clearly no; The Word of God cannot possibly be false.

Jesus is The Word of God.

Nope.

it expressly states He came "in the likeness of" sinful flesh.
Yet in Him is no sin.
That's why it says "in the likeness of"

If Christ was worthy of condemnation there is no salvation.

If it wasn't possible for Jesus Christ to sin, then he wasn't really tempted.

This is you expressly denying the deity of Christ, right?

No wonder no Christian here agrees with you.

He wasn't.
God cannot be tempted nor does He tempt anyone.
He was "tested"

But there is another thread on that currently =]

id est,

He was not condemned nor could He be condemned.

Heb 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

That's right.

If Jesus couldn't sin, how, exactly, was he tested?

Right... But we're in this thread..

You have the great masquerade.

And if Jesus was tempted in all points as we are he must by this have our fallen nature otherwise how could God make a show of His righteousness in a nature not ours?

Again...a masquerade.