Genesis 1:1 What is your interpretation?

So the <ignored> ones aren't?

Yes, the text does say the earth brought forth grass and seed-bearing plants and trees
yielding fruit after their kind... and God created man from the dust of the earth, which
I have long taken to mean (in a manner of speaking) the table of elements .

I decide whom I ignore and when. Putting somebody on "ignore" status lets them communicate false information to others.[/QUOTE
Then you're giving false info, not ignoring the 'ones' you state you do. I'm keeping track!

This has nothing to do with Genesis.

Genesis 1:2-4, "Now the earth was without shape and empty, and darkness was over the surface of the watery deep, but the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the water. God said, “Let there be light.” And there was light! God saw] that the light was good, so God separated the light from the darkness."

Now, following your (mis)interpretation...

John said that Jesus was the actual creator. John 1:3, "All things were created by him [Jesus], and apart from him not one thing was created that has been created. " Therefore, if Jesus is the light of the world in the context of Genesis, He was full of darkness(!) and then created Himself as light.

Secondly, if He was the light of men, there were no men created yet.

Thirdly, the only verse I could find even remotely stating that He lights heaven is Zechariah 14:6, "On that day there will be no light—the sources of light in the heavens will congeal" which, in your context, is absurd. Jesus will not extinguish Himself.

Secondly, if He was the light of men, there were no men created yet.

The text is talking about the planet Earth. Genesis 1:1-3, "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light." People are not mentioned; they haven't been created yet.

Jesus is the Eternal Word, John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God.

Our creation was formless and void and in darkness, then when God spoke the Word "let there be light", then Jesus is revealed to the creation and light is now made manifest and the division between light and dark now exists. That command is still happening today.


Before the creation began, it was already planned to send Jesus to redeem us from sin, to send the light into the world to rescue us from darkness.

He indeed was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you. 1Pet 1:20

Notice we now have light in our creation, yet the sun and the moon and the stars were not created until the fourth day.

Jesus is the true light and when He walked in His pre incarnate form past Moses who was in the cleft of the rock Moses would have died from His brilliant glory if he saw His face, as it was, God placed His hand over the cleft in the rock, yet Moses face still shone from talking to God so that he had to veil his face in front of the Israelites.

And then in our eternal Home in heaven, there be no need for a sun as the light of God will be enough, we will be in the cleft of the rock(Jesus) and covered by His hand(the cross work) so we can be in His presence. What a terrible thought that those who are not covered by His blood will come before Jesus face to face to bow the knee, their presence will literally melt away like a man in a spacesuit floating towards the sun.
They will be sent to darkness which is the absence of light, as there will be no way for them to tolerate the light.

Anyway Jesus veiled His glory when he clothed Himself in His human vessel yet He was still the light come into the world and will again put on His glory.

"And now, O Father glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was. John 17:5

What is this referring to? Strings of idiotic emojis?

Thanks Jaybo, for your response. You have noticed that Genesis 1:1 talks about the earth. I think you have assumed that this means planet earth. However, have you ever really stopped to consider how the Bible defines the earth? I think I know how you define the earth. Planet earth, if I am not mistaken. I have spoken a bit about how the Bible defines heaven and how it is not necessarily saying heaven is the sky and outer space. Rather it is God's throne and Jesus is in the midst of the throne. Now think about how the Bible defines the earth. First of all, we read: "Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest? " Notice the emphasis on house in this verse. Again we read: "As for me, I had in mine heart to build an house of rest for the ark of the covenant of the LORD, and for the footstool of our God, and had made ready for the building: " Notice again the emphasis upon house and building. We may have learned from reading the Bible that the people of God are the house, the building of the Lord: "But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end. " Psalm 110 makes it even clearer that planet earth is not how the Bible defines the earth. It says: "[[A Psalm of David.]] The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. " This is interesting because God's enemies are people, not a planet. Did you notice how the Bible says that? The people become the footstool, the place of God's rest. In changing the people who were once God's enemies into the people who are God's footstool, the people are converted to Christ. So, we can say: "We will go into his tabernacles: we will worship at his footstool. " It seems that the Bible defines God's footstool, which is called the earth, as a group of people, not as a planet.

Proverbs 29:9
If a wise man has an argument with a fool, the fool only rages and laughs, and there is no quiet.

Waiting... <ignored> might be on the horizon....

Proverbs 29:9
If a wise man has an argument with a fool, the fool only rages and laughs, and there is no quiet.

Proverbs 29:9
If a wise man has an argument with a fool, the fool only rages and laughs, and there is no quiet.

How your quote has any relevance is beyond me.

I'm not sure which translation you're using. Here is Proverbs 29:9 from the NRSVue, an excellent translation, "If the wise go to law with fools, there is ranting and ridicule without relief."

@2ndTimeIsTheCharm
In this guest column below, the Rev. Arthur Collins addresses how the liberal NCC’s NRSV Updated Edition (NRSVue) translation significantly dilutes the meaning of two key words related to homosexuality, relying on more extensive analysis by New Testament scholar Robert Gagnon (which in turn cited even liberal scholars in support of his points). Professor Gagnon’s The Bible and Homosexual Practice has been credited with definitively, once-and-for all discrediting any serious scholarly attempts to argue that the Bible does not really condemn consensual homosexual practice.
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@2ndTimeIsTheCharm
In this guest column below, the Rev. Arthur Collins addresses how the liberal NCC’s NRSV Updated Edition (NRSVue) translation significantly dilutes the meaning of two key words related to homosexuality, relying on more extensive analysis by New Testament scholar Robert Gagnon (which in turn cited even liberal scholars in support of his points). Professor Gagnon’s The Bible and Homosexual Practice has been credited with definitively, once-and-for all discrediting any serious scholarly attempts to argue that the Bible does not really condemn consensual homosexual practice.
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Good. I'm glad that you have nothing better to do than that waste of time. LOL!

Sorry but I believe what the Bible says, not your extrapolation of what it means.

Ok, thanks for taking a look, I am curious though I dont think you have said what the source for light is, what is your view?