Another shooting. Defending the indefensible.

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ZNP

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Let's put it this way... if you intentionally warp a child to become a homicidal maniac is the adult child really responsible for murdering people or is the person who warped the child responsible?
Whoa! You give children Meth or some other drug that will make them psychotic and then you train them to be warped with video games and Libs of Tick Tok elementary school teachers having them salute the pride flag and soon you can get them to shoot up schools so that you can take away the guns of Americans making it very easy to roll into a country of 350 million? That is diabolical.

But who could be stupid enough to fall for that...Uhh, scratch that.
 

JohnDB

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Whoa! You give children Meth or some other drug that will make them psychotic and then you train them to be warped with video games and Libs of Tick Tok elementary school teachers having them salute the pride flag and soon you can get them to shoot up schools so that you can take away the guns of Americans making it very easy to roll into a country of 350 million? That is diabolical.

But who could be stupid enough to fall for that...Uhh, scratch that.
Currently in the UK there is a class action lawsuit against the hospital and psychiatrists that performed over 100k of gender reassignment surgeries.
These people are claiming that instead of treatment they instead received encouragement of their psychosis and surgery. They later got the actual treatments they needed and became more mentally stable...which they then got righteously indignant about their past psychiatrists and are now involved in the lawsuit.

The psychiatrists ARE the problem....they are killing people.
 

Cameron143

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https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/202...g-at-christian-elementary-school-in-nashville

Some still think it's wrong to control the number and type of guns that civilians can own. How many dead kids does it take for some common sense to prevail?
Your outrage is well founded. Your solution is well intended. But it won't work. As has been previously noted, your solution doesn't address the real underlying cause. Guns aren't anymore responsible for shootings than tanks are for causing wars. I wonder, did anyone get murdered before guns were invented?
What occurred was a tragedy. But by choosing a solution that is sure to fail only insures more of the same.
 

arthurfleminger

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I must admit I'm a gun owner, m1 carbine rifle and a snubnose revolver. I don't consider myself a danger to society.
Nor to I figure my weapons are either.

It's actually people who are killing each other. We need to take a look at Great Britain, where they outlawed guns for private possession. So noe, instead of guns, criminals turned to knives to kill people. And now Britain wants to outlaw knives.

London Bans Knives Despite Failure Of Gun Ban


England doesn’t have a Second Amendment of their own, and it’s a pity for the British people. First, they lost their guns. And, as a result, violent crime skyrocketed. London, despite having a murder rate now higher than New York City’s, isn’t backing down, though. No, they’re doubling down–on the stupid. They’re now banning the carrying of knives:

London Bans Knives Despite Failure Of Gun Ban – Bearing Arms

Criminals don’t become criminals because certain tools are available. They make use of the tools available to them. If they can get guns, they use guns. If they can’t, they use knives, clubs, hammers, screwdrivers, cars, fists, harsh language, whatever they can.

Will Britain ban spoons next? Possibly!
BRITISH POLICE BRAG ABOUT CONFISCATING DEADLY SPOON
British Police Brag About Confiscating Deadly Spoon – Def-Con News (defconnews.com)

You gotta understand, it's not the weapons, the problem lies with people and criminals that have no respect for other people's lives..

And, frankly, I don't want to be at the mercy of criminals. But I'm no threat to you.
 

PennEd

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https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/202...g-at-christian-elementary-school-in-nashville

Some still think it's wrong to control the number and type of guns that civilians can own. How many dead kids does it take for some common sense to prevail?
Your country doesn't have a 2nd amendment to your constitution.

You have allowed your government to almost fully disarm it's citizenry. There are a myriad of reasons to own a firearm, but one that has been written about by our founding fathers is the need to thwart an oppressive government.
I think that was a primary reason why you allowed them to force almost 95% of your fellow citizens to be injected with a toxic, deadly agent.
Now your excess deaths are off the chart!

INCLUDING many "dead kids" because of the gov tyranny in forcing untested gene therapies into the little ones arms.
 

arthurfleminger

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I must admit I'm a gun owner, m1 carbine rifle and a snubnose revolver. I don't consider myself a danger to society.
Nor to I figure my weapons are either.

It's actually people who are killing each other. We need to take a look at Great Britain, where they outlawed guns for private possession. So noe, instead of guns, criminals turned to knives to kill people. And now Britain wants to outlaw knives.

London Bans Knives Despite Failure Of Gun Ban


England doesn’t have a Second Amendment of their own, and it’s a pity for the British people. First, they lost their guns. And, as a result, violent crime skyrocketed. London, despite having a murder rate now higher than New York City’s, isn’t backing down, though. No, they’re doubling down–on the stupid. They’re now banning the carrying of knives:

London Bans Knives Despite Failure Of Gun Ban – Bearing Arms

Criminals don’t become criminals because certain tools are available. They make use of the tools available to them. If they can get guns, they use guns. If they can’t, they use knives, clubs, hammers, screwdrivers, cars, fists, harsh language, whatever they can.

Will Britain ban spoons next? Possibly!
BRITISH POLICE BRAG ABOUT CONFISCATING DEADLY SPOON
British Police Brag About Confiscating Deadly Spoon – Def-Con News (defconnews.com)

You gotta understand, it's not the weapons, the problem lies with people and criminals that have no respect for other people's lives..

And, frankly, I don't want to be at the mercy of criminals. But I'm no threat to you.
There will always be criminals and thugs who pose a threat to society, that never changes. But if people aren't allow to have the arms/weapons in their homes, they will be easy prey for the predators. And make no mistake, if guns are outlawed, you'll be seeing and hearing from the criminals in your homes. You and your family will be at their complete mercy. You'll be easy targets, just what criminals look for.
 

Karlon

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God teaches to defend home, family & property. as the allowance of freedom grows people will adapt, emulate & become what they see, hear & feel. too much freedom is available to anyone in this country. here's 1 area of concern: 2nd Thessalonians 3:10- "for even when we were with you this we commanded you, that if anyone would not work, neither should he eat"! entitlements are much too abundant. the government has softened, purposefully in preparation for a new government. & certainly, the devil knows his time is short so his temptations are more numerous & powerful. that contributes to the extreme violent behavior.
 

shittim

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JohnDB

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Transgender is not the problem....it is a symptom of a problem.

The problem is with politically motivated psychiatrists. These "doctors" are deliberately misdiagnosing patients to promote a political agenda and the end result is a murderous psychopath in a target rich environment.

These mentally unstable people are being used and abused by Healthcare professionals to promote a political agenda with average innocent people ultimately being victimized by malpractice.

Psychiatrists do not have the same rigorous scrutiny as your average "doc in a box" we see for the sniffles. They have very low malpractice insurance but instead have a blank check to write psychotropic medicines. Which in turn is causing people to go on murderous rampages.

Much more scrutiny and oversight is needed.

In each case these mental patients had years and months to plan out their attacks. Their psychiatrists long since gone after doing the mental health damages.

If they can find a terrorist mastermind hiding in a cave in the middle of nowhere they can stop these psychiatrists from destroying people's minds. The political agenda though seems to be the kryptonite.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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I spoke to a church who started welcoming homosexuals into their church. I warned against it and learned that the one teaching children in Jr church was one as well.
My warning wasn't well received by the parents of the adult lesbian. I warned them about the violence rampant in that demographic and the difference in certain sins. The next time I was invited to the church, their second oldest daughter approached to tell me the following. After church she and the big bull dyke girlfriend of her sister got into an argument with her. That younger little girl was attacked and beat up by the dyke. It sounded like law enforcement was called. The lezbeen left the church thank God. I hope the church finally learned a lesson.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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Transgender is not the problem....it is a symptom of a problem.

The problem is with politically motivated psychiatrists. These "doctors" are deliberately misdiagnosing patients to promote a political agenda and the end result is a murderous psychopath in a target rich environment.

These mentally unstable people are being used and abused by Healthcare professionals to promote a political agenda with average innocent people ultimately being victimized by malpractice.

Psychiatrists do not have the same rigorous scrutiny as your average "doc in a box" we see for the sniffles. They have very low malpractice insurance but instead have a blank check to write psychotropic medicines. Which in turn is causing people to go on murderous rampages.

Much more scrutiny and oversight is needed.

In each case these mental patients had years and months to plan out their attacks. Their psychiatrists long since gone after doing the mental health damages.

If they can find a terrorist mastermind hiding in a cave in the middle of nowhere they can stop these psychiatrists from destroying people's minds. The political agenda though seems to be the kryptonite.
Psychiatry originated with nuts.
Jung = Demon possessed Nut
Freud= Perverted Nut
Skinner = Child abusing Nut

The world promotes these lunatics as some solution to the problem. They never have been and their followers only worsened the problems of the mental cases.

Jesus gave the great commission. I believe that is where the solution begins. The rest of the Bible provides all of the answers. There are many that apply directly to the topic.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Your outrage is well founded. Your solution is well intended. But it won't work. As has been previously noted, your solution doesn't address the real underlying cause. Guns aren't anymore responsible for shootings than tanks are for causing wars. I wonder, did anyone get murdered before guns were invented?
What occurred was a tragedy. But by choosing a solution that is sure to fail only insures more of the same.

ARs were banned under Clinton, there was no change.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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ARs were banned under Clinton, there was no change.
Bush did the same too with many features of the AR. If they had their way, they would disarm every person except for those they personally control in their military. They only use the school shootings as emotional manipulation because they know how gullible many people are.
 

Cameron143

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Bush did the same too with many features of the AR. If they had their way, they would disarm every person except for those they personally control in their military. They only use the school shootings as emotional manipulation because they know how gullible many people are.
Military personnel traditionally are very conservative and patriotic. No doubt the vaccine requirement and social engineering taking place in the military is designed to purge the military of those who will push back against their employment on domestic targets.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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Military personnel traditionally are very conservative and patriotic. No doubt the vaccine requirement and social engineering taking place in the military is designed to purge the military of those who will push back against their employment on domestic targets.
True. I'm not dissing the soldiers and sailors. My Dad served under Northcom 4* General during the Korean War. He was an assistant and He has some shoes that I can't fill in more ways than one.

Typically, the armies of the world are thought of as pawns of the political and military leaders who do their bidding, under complete control. That's what Nancy Polousy assumed when they commanded every state to send soldiers to to fortify their castle with fence and hardened perimeter after j6.
Governors obeyed their master like sissified wimps. I don't expect any different in the future even though most of those soldiers would never vote for that gaggle of corruption that has infected every capital.
I think you are right about the lethal injections being used on that military. They have the top brass in control and agreement and are eliminating those they consider opposition in lower ranks. Even the elections are treated as the c👁️a does their puppet dictatorships in SA.
 

Cameron143

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True. I'm not dissing the soldiers and sailors. My Dad served under Northcom 4* General during the Korean War. He was an assistant and He has some shoes that I can't fill in more ways than one.
The armies of the world are generally thought of as pawns of the political and military leaders who do their bidding, under complete control. That's what Nancy Polousy assumed when they commanded every state to send soldiers to to fortify their castle with fence and hardened perimeter after j6.
Governors obeyed their master like sissified wimps. I don't expect any different in the future even though most of those soldiers would never vote for that gaggle of corruption that has infected every capital.
I think you are right about the lethal injections being used on that military. They have the top brass in control and agreement and are eliminating those they consider opposition in lower ranks. Even the elections are treated as the c👁️a does their puppet dictatorships in SA.
I never thought you had anything but the utmost respect for the men and women who bravely serve and protect us. I was just adding more perspective.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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I never thought you had anything but the utmost respect for the men and women who bravely serve and protect us. I was just adding more perspective.
Same here...Thank you. I appreciate your perspective.
We are living in changing times.
Earlier in the month, I thought I was going to have to open a can of spinach on a murderous home invader. My doors held up, in spite of him being a lucid strong man trying to breach them with a heavy mattock. Praise the Lord of hosts, Who protected me from needing to take the man's life.
Events like these are continuing to become more common everywhere in America I've heard. Even many of those who wanted to disarm their neighbors are buying weapons for self defense.
 

Cameron143

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