Trump Indicted!!!

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ResidentAlien

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He was the first time, don't know why he wouldn't be the second time.
A lot has changed. For one we know the whole Trump business organization is corrupt: https://www.politico.com/news/2023/01/13/trump-org-fined-1-6-million-for-criminal-tax-fraud-00077877#:~:text=A 12-person jury in,for each of the counts. We know Trump's a liar who will say anything to get elected. Fore example: 1) His "big beautiful border wall." It was never completed and cost a fortune; costs he promised Mexico would pay for, ha ha, yeah; 2) He promised to send Hillary to prison. We all know how that turned out; 3) He promised to drain the swamp. Again, the swamp's still there and swampier than ever. He never really made any kind of genuine effort to drain the swamp.

You might argue: Well, he couldn't do anything because of resistance from the left. That's true, but that's not really the point. For one, any logical thinking person should've known these were pie-in-the-sky promises to begin with. People were so desperate to believe anything they believed this nonsense. And second, if he wasn't able to deliver the first time around why should anyone believe him now; especially since we know he's little more than a loudmouthed braggart and conman?

And let's not forget Jan.6. These are the kind of crazies Trump attracts.

Some will say: He appointed three conservative justices to the supreme court. True, he appointed them, but the Senate confirmed them. He didn't do it all by himself; Trump isn't Superman.

My final questions would be: How has Trump changed politics or America's standing in the world. Is America really "great again?" Do we really want four more years of someone who's a little child and likes playing games? Or should we forget about Trump as a big mistake and pray God will send someone better? I believe the only thing that kept Trump from going off the rails to begin with was Rush. And without him around, who knows what Trump is capable of. It seems clear to me Trump doesn't have the US's interest at heart but his own ego's interest.
 

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Don’t ruin the mood with this now because if people were truly caring and outraged we’d be doing something about mass shootings since columbine or earlier.
Now we have coping mechanisms such as : there was no sandy hook because the trauma is too great.
God forbid, anything BUT guns.

Every citizen of every culture is by-product of their system so this is expected that here people will never blame guns.
In other cultures people blame different things about their problems but rarely people look at things objectively especially when it affects their addictions.
They aren't doing anything because you need the Lord to give you the power and authority. This will be a spiritual move.
 

ZNP

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A lot has changed. For one we know the whole Trump business organization is corrupt: https://www.politico.com/news/2023/01/13/trump-org-fined-1-6-million-for-criminal-tax-fraud-00077877#:~:text=A 12-person jury in,for each of the counts. We know Trump's a liar who will say anything to get elected. Fore example: 1) His "big beautiful border wall." It was never completed and cost a fortune; costs he promised Mexico would pay for, ha ha, yeah; 2) He promised to send Hillary to prison. We all know how that turned out; 3) He promised to drain the swamp. Again, the swamp's still there and swampier than ever. He never really made any kind of genuine effort to drain the swamp.

You might argue: Well, he couldn't do anything because of resistance from the left. That's true, but that's not really the point. For one, any logical thinking person should've known these were pie-in-the-sky promises to begin with. People were so desperate to believe anything they believed this nonsense. And second, if he wasn't able to deliver the first time around why should anyone believe him now; especially since we know he's little more than a loudmouthed braggart and conman?

And let's not forget Jan.6. These are the kind of crazies Trump attracts.

Some will say: He appointed three conservative justices to the supreme court. True, he appointed them, but the Senate confirmed them. He didn't do it all by himself; Trump isn't Superman.

My final questions would be: How has Trump changed politics or America's standing in the world. Is America really "great again?" Do we really want four more years of someone who's a little child and likes playing games? Or should we forget about Trump as a big mistake and pray God will send someone better? I believe the only thing that kept Trump from going off the rails to begin with was Rush. And without him around, who knows what Trump is capable of. It seems clear to me Trump doesn't have the US's interest at heart but his own ego's interest.
When the Stop the Steal rallies were taking place I refused to judge them till I had seen for myself, my thought was these are the canaries in the coal mine sending out the warning, we should listen.

Likewise we are now seeing believers send out the warning about Trump and Trumpism and the "populist movement" he is leading. Again, I think these people should be listened to.

When you are sailing a boat in a channel, there are two sides to the channel. On one side we have election fraud, the buoys are warning us not to go too far to that side, on the other side there is this unfettered trust in Trump, the buoys are also warning us not to go too far to that side.
 

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Yes, Obama was a great season. Season 7 or 8 if I remember correctly.
Great orator and the KoolAid was flowing profusely, all the peoples had a sense of Hope and we were going to the end of the universe and fix everything etcetera etcetera.
What we got instead was a lot of presidential authorized drone strikes and an apology tour.
Let's see if I can take a crack at this. This was the season where a Farrakhan loving Muslim took office and told us America was no long a Christian nation and mocked the Bible. He was the one that sat in front of a pastor and said marriage was between a man and a woman and then decked the WH out in celebration of said gay marriage. He was the one with the wife who wasn't proud she was American until her husband won office. He did a lot of bowing and apologizing, yes, and making red lines in the sand that meant nothing to nobody. I thought that season had a lot of fakes in it personally. Screaming about climate change and the rise of the oceans and buys a huge mansion, right beside the ocean. This was the guy that left us with no hope or change.




Then we got the anti-Obama. That was an ever better season.
The shock on the Obama’s faces, especially Michelle was priceless. How could this be?
This wasn’t the “yes we can” we were chanting for! This was the opposite of that!
The sadness and depression on their faces got many views on that season and the tears on the Democrat’s team’s side were entertaining to watch when Hillary didn’t shatter that glass ceiling.

Trump had a great run on season 9-10 with the media and it was awesome to watch.
Trump was a bull in a China shop and we loved it.
Yeah, this was possibly the most entertaining season of all. We found out about a swamp that was deeper than we ever imagined it. We found out the true meaning of Rhino, I didn't actually know what it stood for until Trump. We learned the MSM is just another arm of the DNC along with Twitter and Facebook. Minorities, black people and women found out what hope and change actually means. No wars even though they said he was a danger to the country. This was where we found out liberal women are flat out crazy wearing their intimate body parts on their heads and threatening to blow up the WH. I sure would like to see more of this season, if only to see libs implode.



But at the end of season 10 we got a nursing home patient for a President.
America wanted a more quiet season so we opted for nursing home material instead.
This was the season that I call the Sesame St. season. Instead of "cookie monster" we got "ice cream" monster and it's apparently the only way to lure him out of bed. He puts a lid on the day by noon. He doesn't remember he's president, who his wife is , where he is or how to get off the stage. We just know Corn Pop was a bad dude and dog faced pony soldiers make him real angry. He dragged us into a proxy war that will never end. He allowed 13 soldiers to be killed in a far away country, then checked his watch as the bodies came home. He's not beneath taking political prisoners or indicting his opponents. But he's the very first black(but also racist) , Jewish, Mexican, Greek, truck driving, head of his class, son of a buck we've had in this country. I guess we should be proud?





But before these seasons we also had other great ones.
Bush JR! “He offended my daddy” so we attacked Sadam (that was a cool action season) and we installed patriot act. Very awesome.
Yes, I was here during this season. This was the one where we learned the term "turn coat" and what it meant. Someone who actually stood in the devastation of 911 and compared it to Jan 6. That was a tragic season.




Before him we had the original suave man who didn’t have sexual relations with that woman but that depends on what the meaning of the word IS is.
I remember him, the first black president. And no one believed him about not having sex with her , we all knew he'd hump a snake if it would hold still long enough. Speaking of his wife, she stood by her man to break that glass ceiling just to have it smash down on her head. At least he was smart enough to move to the center politically, which cue his wife didn't pick up. Did you know he could play the saxophone, apparently he was multi-talented. ;)


Before him we had bush senior who was skilled in international affairs but boring at home so we didn’t want 2 seasons of him.
Apparently when you say "no more new taxes" people actually hear "no more new taxes". Who knew?



And before him was the original entertainer the original actor from Hollywood : Ronald Regan.
He’s highly praised even today for his actin skills and we liked him because he was a good actor.
If John Wayne and Maggie Thatcher had a baby, he'd be it. He had swag before it was cool and he was like a dose of salts to socialist/ commies everywhere. When they said "don't say tear down that wall"!! he smiled and said "Tear down that wall!!" and it worked! That is why we liked him.



Before him (season 2-3 maybe) we had Jimmy Carter , the original tree huger who installed solar panels at the White House.
He was cool for a while but then we got bored with him and switched to a better actor.
Carter, the man who should have stayed on the peanut farm, the hostages and the country would have been grateful not to have known his name.

And so on and so forth.
America has had great seasons so enjoy them all.
Kinda hoping this isn't the last one.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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A lot has changed. For one we know the whole Trump business organization is corrupt: https://www.politico.com/news/2023/01/13/trump-org-fined-1-6-million-for-criminal-tax-fraud-00077877#:~:text=A 12-person jury in,for each of the counts. We know Trump's a liar who will say anything to get elected. Fore example: 1) His "big beautiful border wall." It was never completed and cost a fortune; costs he promised Mexico would pay for, ha ha, yeah; 2) He promised to send Hillary to prison. We all know how that turned out; 3) He promised to drain the swamp. Again, the swamp's still there and swampier than ever. He never really made any kind of genuine effort to drain the swamp.
Yeah I'd rather take a man who will say anything to get elected rather than do anything, like indict his opponent instead of letting the people decide. Trump is the most vetted president in history. If there was anything they could stick to the wall they would. I don't know anything Trump "said" to get elected, may need to refresh my memory.

1. He was building it so that's not a lie. Walls that keep people out cost money. And he had a new trade deal with Mexico

2. Hillary knew how to hide her sins, her husband should have taken a lesson. Just how do you find 30 thousand bleach bit, hammer destroyed emails?? Maybe if he wasn't impeached every three minutes he'd have a chance to find her skeletons. Doubt it though, she's Ninja level at lying and hiding.

3. Oh he drained the swamp all right and opened our eyes to what is happening in the country. Draining and cleaning are two different things. Gonna take some major chlorine to clean that up. Not gonna happen overnight. I don't think HE even knew how deep it went.



especially since we know he's little more than a loudmouthed braggart and conman?
No, you got your seasons messed up. That's the guy in office now.


And let's not forget Jan.6. These are the kind of crazies Trump attracts.
Yeah, who walk around the capitol, escorted by police, and then turn around and pray for the police. Clearly crazy people.


Some will say: He appointed three conservative justices to the supreme court. True, he appointed them, but the Senate confirmed them. He didn't do it all by himself; Trump isn't Superman.
Still goes on his resume like any other president. Obama didn't take out Bin Ladin but got the praise for it. He also got a whole lot of conservative judges in.


My final questions would be: How has Trump changed politics or America's standing in the world.
Do you honestly think we would be in a proxy war that will never end if Trump was in office? Do you think Russia and China would be colluding in plain sight? That China would be threatening Taiwan ? That Russia would even be in Ukraine? No wars when he was in office, there was a reason for that.




Is America really "great again?"
Was it?! Lemme see... I could afford gas, I could afford to eat, I could afford to heat my home. Humm check, check and check. Minorities and women, lowest unemployment. Check. No wars. Check. Wasn't trying to stop free speech or a gun grab, was working on peace in the ME. stood against abortion, socialism, and for Israel. Was against the farce of wokeism. Allowed prayer breakfast again. It's early where I am so that's just a very few reasons America was great again and patriotism was a positive thing.




Do we really want four more years of someone who's a little child and likes playing games?
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I don't know what games you're talking about. You know, I'm real tired of people going on about Trumps personality. Put yourself in the mans shoes and try a tiny bit of empathy. You decide to run for president and from that second people mock you, every media outlet rips you to pieces just for saying you're going to run. You do run and win the presidency and every single person that was your friend turns on you, the ones that begged to be on the list to come to your parties and people who attended your wedding, all hate you with a passion. When you try and defend yourself, they attack harder. They come against your entire family. Every form of media mocks you along with social media. They think a picture of your severed bloody head is funny. They accuse you of every thing they can think of, they even invent new words as a crime you've committed. All media and social media is out to get you and slit your throat. You have no platform to say anything, and anything you say is twisted beyond recognition. They despise you and everything you stand for. I don't know of any man who could withstand that, and I don't know how he is. Many can say they could handle it, he's the only one that's proved it.




who knows what Trump is capable of.
Well this old buzzard has WW3 cookin on the stove, you know of something worse than that?!


QUOTE="ResidentAlien, post: 5051099, member: 306907"] It seems clear to me Trump doesn't have the US's interest at heart but his own ego's interest.[/QUOTE]

If Trump woke up tomorrow and said he wasn't running all this would stop. The charges would all go away. They would let him and his family alone. He doesn't need the money, heaven knows he doesn't need the hassle. Why would it be ego? He could take the easy way out, why isn't he? Because of ego? Hardly. No one needs this much of a headache this late in life.
 

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@ThereRoseaLamb you are awesome by the way and your post made me laugh hard about America’s seasons.
God bless you and your family.
Also I’m glad to see you have a sense of humor.
Personally I choose to laugh about a lot of things because it sure doesn’t help to cry.

All the best to you and Glory to God in the highest !
 

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My final questions would be: How has Trump changed politics or America's standing in the world. Is America really "great again?" Do we really want four more years of someone who's a little child and likes playing games? Or should we forget about Trump as a big mistake and pray God will send someone better? I believe the only thing that kept Trump from going off the rails to begin with was Rush. And without him around, who knows what Trump is capable of. It seems clear to me Trump doesn't have the US's interest at heart but his own ego's interest.
I do agree that the last two years have really made the gospel great again. I don't think Biden deserves all the credit, but he has certainly done more than could have been expected of any president.

Nothing like Biden and Putin threatening nuclear war to help people preach the gospel. It is amazing how much more receptive people have become since then.

Also, this inflation is great, I share the gospel at a food give away and the cars line up for hours and the line goes way out the parking lot, through the traffic light and over to the freeway. So, once again thank you President Biden.

Also, many of the people who I speak to say they already have a bible but I point out that by giving them this bible there is no paper trail the government will have. I also point out that you can easily pull off the cover and divy it up into tiny packets of paper to evade capture even more. A year ago they would have scoffed at the US becoming a police state, but indicting Trump has been pure gold. For some reason they don't scoff anymore. Now I know Bragg should get the credit for that but for some reason I think Biden should also be given credit.

When I talk to people I tell them this world is corrupt, the Lord will purge the world of sin during the tribulation and will bring in His kingdom where righteousness dwells. That message is getting a whole lot more traction now that we are turning misdemeanors into major felonies and turning major felonies into nothing but a slap on the wrist. We are turning mass murderers into victims and "women" with full beards are winning weight lifting competitions. This message is getting so much more traction now than it did just two years ago and again, I think Biden deserves a lot of credit.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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@ThereRoseaLamb you are awesome by the way and your post made me laugh hard about America’s seasons.
God bless you and your family.
Also I’m glad to see you have a sense of humor.
Personally I choose to laugh about a lot of things because it sure doesn’t help to cry.

All the best to you and Glory to God in the highest !

Hey I may be a hard hitter, but I consider everyone here my brothers and sisters ( even if they don't feel the same). And you need a sense of humor this day in age for sure! Glad I could make you laugh.

God has blessed us, my mother just received her 3 yrs clear of cancer we found out last week. I don't think there is anything that can dim that happiness and thankfulness. God is good! Blessings to you and your family too!
 

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ZNP

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Let hope this thing gets tossed due to prosecutorial misconduct per neglecting exculpatory evidence. Among several other viable legal venues.
Isn't it the law that you have to release one prisoner during the Passover?
 

ZNP

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The arraignment is 2:15 pm on Nisan 13, which is 9:15pm on Nisan 14, weirdly similar to the same day and time Jesus was arrested 2,000 years ago, certainly weird.
 

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The arraignment is 2:15 pm on Nisan 13, which is 9:15pm on Nisan 14, weirdly similar to the same day and time Jesus was arrested 2,000 years ago, certainly weird.
You're not getting sucked into the "Trump is our Jesus" crap that's started to float around, are you?
 

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The USA Democratic Socialist Party that is being headed by the people who are behind the scenes who have Biden their Meat Puppet on their Strings.......
They were revealed quite a while back in this book.

They use to hide themselves. Now they dont.

Did you know that that Biden's VP.....Kamala Harris, is a self avowed "Marxist"?

You wont find that out on CNN or MSNBC.
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The decision is ours. Again.
 

ZNP

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You're not getting sucked into the "Trump is our Jesus" crap that's started to float around, are you?
I have already compared Trump to Barabbas and find a lot of correlation, I also showed how there is no correlation with Jesus, but you could compare Trump to the donkey that Jesus rode into Jerusalem (not him alone, all those who have refused to yield under the insults and attacks from the left).

Jesus was the only son of the Father and Barabbas also means son of the father. One is set free, the other is sacrificed.

Jesus is the spirit that has animated His people to stand up for righteousness, while Trump signifies a populist movement being called an insurrection.

You could also argue that Barabbas is a type of the antichrist, the one the people choose, like king Saul, or Adonijah, or the Antichrist. He brings in a human kingdom -- 666.

That said, I do not believe in coincidences, I believe in a sovereign God. So I don't shrug off the timing and similarities of what I am seeing.
 

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The decision is ours. Again.

The question is.....who is Trump going to choose for VP?

It wont be Pence.

It'll probably be De Santis..
No worries about anything that He says now, as he's just trying to get into the big show....but come election time, De Santis will be very happy to be the VP because that is 4 yrs away from him becoming president, and He knows it.

If i could choose for Trump, id choose Kristi Noam.
She something special.
Smart
Patriotic
Understands the world's stage and all the evil players.
And she can handle the questions, the exposure..= .she's very good under fire.