Mental Health Issues

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Hello! I wanted to make a post for Mental Health issues and a safe place for whoever is experiencing struggles and wants to share or get advice from others who experience similar symptoms and their stories.
 

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Hey, you! Love your new avatar. I think of you often and am so glad to see you posting again! .:D
 

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i never had mental health issues but a friend of mine owns a health food store & he's very knowledgeable. he teaches a colleges too. learned decades ago that a bad diet can cause mental issue because of a lack of vitamins & nutrients. there's always self healing. a person may be a very negative person. the conditioned response built in the brain concerning negativity, complaining, doubting, pouting, comparisons, judging, critical negative spirit or anything of those natures can be enormously powerful, especially the longer someone is that way. but, Jesus to the rescue!!!!!! YEAH!!!! no job too big, no job too small for Jesus. make up healing slogans in rhyme form & add some comedy to them to make it fun when you repeat these lessons to yourself to recondition yourself. i just made 1 up for you: "Jesus is real, i've got a new deal, i'm going to heal"!
 
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That’s a noble goal you have, JF, thank you for it.

I used to be suicide most of my life, the closest I ever came to terminating myself, my 380 gal. Handgun jammed because hollow points didn’t do well in the gun, first round in the muzzle jammed, thank God. I took it to a Gun Store to have it unloaded the same day.

Once I was in a behavioral hospital for 9 days. :)
 

HealthAndHappiness

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Hello! I wanted to make a post for Mental Health issues and a safe place for whoever is experiencing struggles and wants to share or get advice from others who experience similar symptoms and their stories.
There are many possible causes of mental health challenges. I look at things holistically in the biblical sense, body, soul, and spirit.
The new agers like to think they have one up on Christians, but the Bible has the true source of holistic health.

I Thessalonians 5:23

"And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ."

We are 3 part beings when our dead spirit is given everlasting life.
There can be spiritual reasons for mental illness.
There can be problems of the soul.
There can be physical challenges as well as combinations of the 3.
According to my studies at a college of psychology and the study of so called christian psychology, they have no real solutions. The Bible offers the solutions to all spiritual problems. God offers knowledge of health through creation and He Who created it. The medical establishment takes credit for it and away from the Lord. However, God provides all we need for mental health and happiness.

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Flannery

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"Mental health" is merely a modernist euphemism for moral understanding. A mentally healthy person understands the outcomes of his actions and based on his valid historical education. A mentally ill person thinks that the outcomes of his repetitive actions will be somehow different from the outcomes reached by the last person to engage in them.
I know that in civil terms (Jefferson) it's all a matter of your education, but I don't want o come across as too "progressive".
 

brighthouse98

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2 Tim 1:7 Some Bible's instead of calling this a sound mind refer to discipline instead. Now the question, if it is possible to have metal illness being a believer? And if so then this verse is a lie. No excuses. I want to be very fair here. Having flaws is just part of our human nature, but if a person says they just cannot have discipline.

in their life then they cannot have a sound mind either. I brought this to a number of people on the street, one person said Well my friend is a believer and he killed someone. I know many people who say they are believers, does that make it so?? Of course not! (James 1:22) I suppose the correct question for me to ask is how does one define mental illness?? If a person is not in control of themselves, how can they ever look to control others? Your thoughts are most welcome. Even if we disagree.
 

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2 Tim 1:7 Some Bible's instead of calling this a sound mind refer to discipline instead. Now the question, if it is possible to have metal illness being a believer? And if so then this verse is a lie. No excuses. I want to be very fair here. Having flaws is just part of our human nature, but if a person says they just cannot have discipline.

in their life then they cannot have a sound mind either. I brought this to a number of people on the street, one person said Well my friend is a believer and he killed someone. I know many people who say they are believers, does that make it so?? Of course not! (James 1:22) I suppose the correct question for me to ask is how does one define mental illness?? If a person is not in control of themselves, how can they ever look to control others? Your thoughts are most welcome. Even if we disagree.
People in modern times don't understand that a discipline is a body of knowledge. The simplest examples are atomic spelling and four operations on whole numbers. Grammar is one. If you don't have the full knowledge of the whole Bible, you can come off a little bit nuts, but that's okay, because actually when was the book completed? Remember that they were written in the State as the Isrealis moved through astronomical time, and even in terms of prophecy, God doesn't always tell everyone He speaks to everything all at once.
 
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"Mental health" is merely a modernist euphemism for moral understanding. A mentally healthy person understands the outcomes of his actions and based on his valid historical education. A mentally ill person thinks that the outcomes of his repetitive actions will be somehow different from the outcomes reached by the last person to engage in them.
I know that in civil terms (Jefferson) it's all a matter of your education, but I don't want o come across as too "progressive".
I have to disagree, respectfully! I have been so mentally ill that it scared me very much. I am not an authority on the subject like you though. 🙂
 

Flannery

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I have to disagree, respectfully! I have been so mentally ill that it scared me very much. I am not an authority on the subject like you though. 🙂
I have to disagree, respectfully! I have been so mentally ill that it scared me very much. I am not an authority on the subject like you though. 🙂
What makes you think you were mentally ill? The progressives who established state mental health treatment knew what it meant, it's the English way of saying "mens rea" which courts still use to describe evil intent, motive to commit a crime, most specifically the moment of decision on the part of a criminal to steal or commit murder for example. Mens rea is tricky, but I'd say that it can't be treated. Most people aren't born total bad seeds like Esau, they need leading astray and to form a resolve to commit a serious crime for which they might weel be caught and imprisoned.

What I mean is that going back to the legal definition of mental illness, in court it meas "malice aforethought". It's a human interior character quality according to the original legal definition, that's all I'm saying. It's very different from a crime of passion, like fighting the other girl in the roll rink over the boyfriend, or an opportunistic crime like staling clothes form the mall because you can tell that the store staff aren't watching.
 
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What makes you think you were mentally ill? The progressives who established state mental health treatment knew what it meant, it's the English way of saying "mens rea" which courts still use to describe evil intent, motive to commit a crime, most specifically the moment of decision on the part of a criminal to steal or commit murder for example. Mens rea is tricky, but I'd say that it can't be treated. Most people aren't born total bad seeds like Esau, they need leading astray and to form a resolve to commit a serious crime for which they might weel be caught and imprisoned.

What I mean is that going back to the legal definition of mental illness, in court it meas "malice aforethought". It's a human interior character quality according to the original legal definition, that's all I'm saying. It's very different from a crime of passion, like fighting the other girl in the roll rink over the boyfriend, or an opportunistic crime like staling clothes form the mall because you can tell that the store staff aren't watching.

I'm impressed, dear sister!! I reckon your I.Q. must be at least 500! And I mean that most sincerely! May God Bless you always/
 

Flannery

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To my way of thinking, the fundamental problem in mental health conversations is that people seem to have so many definitions of it. The mental health system as it's practiced legally under state counselor's licenses devolved form the courts. "Mental Health" used to always refer to a defendant's state of mind specifically in relation to his or her motives for committing or possibly committing an alleged crime. Nowadays a person's mental health in any conversation about it including his own often refers more to personal feelings than anything else. That also raises questions, because in terms of it being a motive, "just feeling like it" as a reason for doing something almost always applies to the leisure class! A lot of things that you might feel like doing might still be beyond your ability and think about that. You may feel like running a marathon, but will you be able to finish it in reality? I feel like painting the White Hose and the Statute of Liberty both right now but can't afford the travel to Washington DC and New York. Also, my painter's skill isn't exactly masterclass, so I'd have to photograph the building and monument instead. The notion that mental health is something to do with discipline is what people mean who think that mental health is something to do with your personality, but that's well out of alignment with the definition of discipline. I've met very well-educated people who didn't want to get along, demagogic logicians with no notion of rhetoric who just went around looking for debates to insert themselves into and cause problems, etc.
 

Flannery

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2 Tim 1:7 Some Bible's instead of calling this a sound mind refer to discipline instead. Now the question, if it is possible to have metal illness being a believer? And if so then this verse is a lie. No excuses. I want to be very fair here. Having flaws is just part of our human nature, but if a person says they just cannot have discipline.

in their life then they cannot have a sound mind either. I brought this to a number of people on the street, one person said Well my friend is a believer and he killed someone. I know many people who say they are believers, does that make it so?? Of course not! (James 1:22) I suppose the correct question for me to ask is how does one define mental illness?? If a person is not in control of themselves, how can they ever look to control others? Your thoughts are most welcome. Even if we disagree.
Discipline matters, but (and I hate to bring this up) so do society and the markets. Having discipline is the full knowledge and understanding of Jesus Christ mentioned in Timothy, but it also has a lot to do with the publishing business, and how much shepherding you get for your tithe and from who. That's not understood in the modern world, I know. Psychology has conditioned parents to expect instant gratification from children who they haven't even taught anything to, the Tony Campolo dad expects a fully functioning package when he get the special delivery in the hospital obgyn ward.

The definition of Western Christian European learning and understanding is mastery of the basis of the seven methods of rational demonstration. If you're really interested in that avenue, the theological proof of the existence of God from old seven of them is called "Summa Theologica" by Thomas Aquinas.
 

brighthouse98

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Society or the World as a whole was thought to think with their feeling, the markets also lean that way in most cases as well bro. There are as I see it two kinds of discipline that which is taught by the world as I learned being in Special Forces. Those chosen for this assignment have their minds broken down and are created anew for the purpose of serving our Country. The other as you so well stated are taught by Holy Spirit of our Living God, this is not an easy transition for FAITH takes the place of feeling! (Heb 11)

It is as you well know not man made. I do not look at God's discipline as a business as most Churches are run in this fashion. Most Churches are created by some man-made doctrine to form their church (more like a club) in order to belong one must believe as the rest do in that church, I grew up a Lutheran meaning I knew about God but was never taught the importance of being and staying faithful to the Lord. Hence when I became older, and I thought wiser (LOL) I found the streets of Detroit to be the real world!!

1. Do not trust anyone, 2 Only lie to woman, and 3. Your word is indeed your bond, if one's word is no good neither is the person it comes from. FEAR is the greatest asset one can have to survive. During my 2 Tours in Vietnam this method was reinforced. When Jesus himself met me in a mop closet in college and delivered me from demonic forces he has been my teacher.

Many things I had to learn the hard way, and at my tender age of 70 now I am still learning. There is much more I could say but I just wanted you to understand my mind set on this topic, some may disagree and that is fine, I now know who I am and whom I serve and most important to me at least why! (Heb 12:1-17) I Truly I am what I am by the very grace of God himself. (1 Cor 15:10)
 

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Society or the World as a whole was thought to think with their feeling, the markets also lean that way in most cases as well bro. There are as I see it two kinds of discipline that which is taught by the world as I learned being in Special Forces. Those chosen for this assignment have their minds broken down and are created anew for the purpose of serving our Country. The other as you so well stated are taught by Holy Spirit of our Living God, this is not an easy transition for FAITH takes the place of feeling! (Heb 11)

It is as you well know not man made. I do not look at God's discipline as a business as most Churches are run in this fashion. Most Churches are created by some man-made doctrine to form their church (more like a club) in order to belong one must believe as the rest do in that church, I grew up a Lutheran meaning I knew about God but was never taught the importance of being and staying faithful to the Lord. Hence when I became older, and I thought wiser (LOL) I found the streets of Detroit to be the real world!!

1. Do not trust anyone, 2 Only lie to woman, and 3. Your word is indeed your bond, if one's word is no good neither is the person it comes from. FEAR is the greatest asset one can have to survive. During my 2 Tours in Vietnam this method was reinforced. When Jesus himself met me in a mop closet in college and delivered me from demonic forces he has been my teacher.

Many things I had to learn the hard way, and at my tender age of 70 now I am still learning. There is much more I could say but I just wanted you to understand my mind set on this topic, some may disagree and that is fine, I now know who I am and whom I serve and most important to me at least why! (Heb 12:1-17) I Truly I am what I am by the very grace of God himself. (1 Cor 15:10)
That might not have come across. Anyone in the teaching profession who still thinks of discipline as an education, whether in the arts, the sciences, or combat skills always says that acquiring it is only the beginning. Also, I'm aware that societal quibbles are just a lot of obfuscation. It took me a while, but I put that intellectual package together. Social? Sociology? Something to do with Socrates? What you mean is that there's a monarchy somewhere in the state. It could be Jesus, it could be Siddhartha, Socrates or Julis Ceasar. There are also Cromwellians and Napoleonists. Marxists are like that. Hegelians, if you ever run across one of those, they're a society. All Societies have that in common. It's named after the court of Socrates.
 

brighthouse98

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Experience I have found is the best teacher, reading is good, but living the truth that is where you find out who you really are.
 

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Experience I have found is the best teacher, reading is good, but living the truth that is where you find out who you really are.
Experience I have found is the best teacher, reading is good, but living the truth that is where you find out who you really are.
It is, that's why there's always more than one factor. The symbol of Justice is the scales, right weighed vs wrong. Anything weighed against its opposite in a pair of scales in terms of moral rights is judicial. For example, the citizen's right to defend himself could be weighed against his right to own property if there were question of larceny, or an extreme argument between two gun owners over who really owned something of high value. The two factor judge could weigh this case: "He shot him because he had stolen his car." Does his right to possess his property, which he paid for, outweigh the right of the accuses to a fair trial? This is the substance of the film studies argument in Oliver Stone's JFK. Not many people care if Oliver Stone shot Lee Harvey Oswald, but Oliver Stone who is a journalist thinks the public has a right to a judicial proceeding against the assassin while still alive. What judges judge is cases, though, it is a judgement on the crime. All done on a single point, the count of murder, rape, robbery, espionage, or whatever.

I think the unjust judge story is about the fall, myself. The fall is the crime that will be accounted at the last judgement. Because of the fall all have sinned, so in theory the unjust judge could be any judge, because no one us unfallen and in a perfect state, including judges.
 
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Thank you for creating this space for discussing mental health issues. It's essential to have a safe and supportive community where people can share their experiences and seek advice from those who understand. Mental health is a crucial topic, and we should all work together to break the stigma surrounding it. I'd like to share a resource that might be helpful for those dealing with specific phobias. You can find valuable information on megalophobia at https://www.mentalhealth.com/disorder/specific-phobia/megalophobia. Knowledge is a powerful tool in managing and understanding our mental health.
 

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Thank you for creating this space for discussing mental health issues. It's essential to have a safe and supportive community where people can share their experiences and seek advice from those who understand. Mental health is a crucial topic, and we should all work together to break the stigma surrounding it. I'd like to share a resource that might be helpful for those dealing with specific phobias. You can find valuable information on megalophobia at https://www.mentalhealth.com/disorder/specific-phobia/megalophobia. Knowledge is a powerful tool in managing and understanding our mental health.
I helped people here in the states overcome phobias of snakes, spiders and even bats.
You live in Australia where the majority of snakes are.venomous and you have very toxic spiders and giant bats. For the bats, I might.be able to help. As for snakes and trap door spiders, I'm afraid you're plumb outta luck.
Lol

Steve Irwin on How to Overcome Phobia of Snakes


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