Calvin did not invent the doctrines of grace
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Surely you don’t think God is ruling this world of darkness. This world is in chaos. This world is out of control.
2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Ephesians 6
11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Ephesians 6
11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
I do believe God can purpose something and bring it to pass.
Yes. People who choose to believe the gospel shall be saved.
God made it available for all to be saved. Anyone can choose to believe the gospel. God does not force or cause people to believe the gospel.
He did that AFTER humanity had been corrupted by the nephilim.
Yes.
No.
God does change His mind when circumstances warrant it.
Yes. People who choose to believe the gospel shall be saved.
God made it available for all to be saved. Anyone can choose to believe the gospel. God does not force or cause people to believe the gospel.
He did that AFTER humanity had been corrupted by the nephilim.
Yes.
No.
God does change His mind when circumstances warrant it.
There are those who believe Satan is still in Heaven.
1 John 5:19 “the whole world is under the control of the evil one”
Matthew 4:8-9
Remember 1 Kings 22 .
Which means Satan,"Adversary", is lord of this world in God's presence . And being Satan can do nothing without God's permission that's a bold belief.
1 John 5:19 “the whole world is under the control of the evil one”
Matthew 4:8-9
Remember 1 Kings 22 .
Which means Satan,"Adversary", is lord of this world in God's presence . And being Satan can do nothing without God's permission that's a bold belief.
seriously rogerg??? of course there are spiritual matters discussed in Scripture which go beyond the scope of Jesus Christ and Him crucified and resurrected from the dead on the third day (the gospel).1 Cor 2:6-16 is an example. That you conflate the gospel with the mystery, the hidden wisdom is an example of you needing to feed on the milk of the Word in order that you may understand what is the mystery.
The gospel being "fully complete within itself, period" does not negate the fact that there are other spiritual matters which are revealed in Scripture. You can deny all you want, but you are in error on this point.
I will stick with what Scripture reveals concerning the milk of the Word ... which is that the milk of the Word is suitable for those who are newly born again as well as the believer who may have been born again for awhile, but has not yet matured to the level of being able to digest strong meat. You and brightfame52 continuing to reject the truth concerning the milk of the Word vs strong meat indicates that both of you are still need of milk so that you may grow thereby.
1 Peter 2:2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby
iow, rogerg ... grow up if you want to discuss the strong meat.
your re-wording of Scripture is duly noted:
Hebrews 5:
11 Of whom [the Lord Jesus Christ] we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing.
12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
I have explained to you that the gospel is not the same as the mystery, the hidden wisdom and you reject. You are dull of hearing as shown above in Heb 5:11.
"Those to whom strong meat belongs have exercised their senses" ... to discern both good and evil (not as you claim "to be able to find the gospel- grace through Christ verses works - echoed throughout the Bible").
READ YOUR BIBLE!!! ... and quit making stuff up!
In agreement that the Lord Jesus Christ is the sole focus and Subject of Scripture from Genesis to Revelation.
Not in agreement that newly born again ones "tend to perceive it as predominately historical".
the word "perfect" in vs 17 is translated from the Greek word artios which means perfect, complete, fitted, ready.
the words "throughly [please note, the word is not "thoroughly"] furnished" are translated from the Greek word exartízō (from ek and artizō ) which means properly, fitted (because fully suitable) because all the parts work together. 1822/eksartízō ("entirely outfitted") is used in the passive voice in 2 Tim 3:17, stressing the end-impact of Scripture on the receptive believer - HELPS Word-studies (bold mine).
the doctrine, reproof, correction, instruction in righteousness contained in Scripture completely equips the believer for the good works God has created us to do in order that the believer may ... let's continue reading in 2 Tim 4 to find out the good works for which Scripture equips us:
2 Timothy 4:1-2 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
We are fully equipped in order that we may preach the word ... be instant in season, out of season (basically, be ready at all times) ... reprove ... rebuke ... exhort.
we have already gone over the verses, rogerg. You rejected the truth then just as you reject the truth now.
see Post 544 and Post 545 for starters.
quit conflating the gospel with the mystery, the hidden wisdom ... realize that the gospel is the gospel and the mystery, the hidden wisdom is the mystery, the hidden wisdom. Until you quit closing your eyes to this truth, I will not engage in an exercise in frustration in trying to convince you of the truth of Scripture which you continue to reject.
your dogma completely contradicts what is written in Scripture:
Romans 16:25-26 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began, But now is made manifest, ...
Ephesians 3:4-5 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ) Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men ...
Ephesians 3:9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God ...
Colossians 1:26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest ...
Those are the words of Scripture ... written by Paul. God revealed the mystery, the hidden wisdom to Paul and Paul wrote about it in those verses.
you're not ready for the strong meat ... go feed on the milk of the Word that you may grow thereby ... when you are teleios then we can discuss.
... such a shock ... rogerg disagrees with reneweddaybyday ....
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Luke 4:5-6 And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.
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I can answer ... and I have answered ... you reject ... then claim "major cop out" and/or that I "can't answer that".
The "major cop out" is the one who rejects the truth of Scripture ... conflates the gospel with the mystery, the hidden wisdom ... manipulates Scripture by changing active verbs to passive (remember that fiasco? ... it was just a couple days ago) or changes what is written in Scripture like you did here:
when the verse clearly states that strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil - Heb 5:14.
READ YOUR BIBLE!!!
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The "major cop out" is the one who rejects the truth of Scripture ... conflates the gospel with the mystery, the hidden wisdom ... manipulates Scripture by changing active verbs to passive (remember that fiasco? ... it was just a couple days ago) or changes what is written in Scripture like you did here:
when the verse clearly states that strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil - Heb 5:14.
READ YOUR BIBLE!!!
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This is what I know:
Ps 103:19
The Lord hath prepared his throne in the heavens; and his kingdom ruleth over all.
1 Pet 3:22
22 Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.
And if you believe anything less, its theological athiesm
Ps 103:19
The Lord hath prepared his throne in the heavens; and his kingdom ruleth over all.
1 Pet 3:22
22 Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.
And if you believe anything less, its theological athiesm