Do you think transgenders go to heaven?

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That's awesome. But if you had forgiven them you would have covered their sins; not announce them.
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I am not speaking of anyone here.

And sin must be called out so that those who might be inclined to commit it in the future might take warning and think twice about committing it.

It is not that I have not forgiven them...my hope is that they will go to heaven.

But as for discipline and chastening and scourging in this life...that is not out of the question.
 
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Baptism alone in Jesus name, baptismal regeneration.
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Ezekiel 36:25-27 is clear about baptismal regeneration (although the Hebrew word in Ezekiel is rantizo).

And I do not specifically teach that baptism alone in Jesus' Name is what saves (I let the scriptures speak for themselves)...

While I do bring up Acts 2:39 in light of Romans 8:31 and no one has yet been able to answer it as a contention given by those scriptures.
 
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I am not speaking of anyone here.

And sin must be called out so that those who might be inclined to commit it in the future might take warning and think twice about committing it.

It is not that I have not forgiven them...my hope is that they will go to heaven.

But as for discipline and chastening and scourging in this life...that is not out of the question.
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Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks...and the fingers type. It's still a topic of discussion for you because there is bitterness in your heart over it. Otherwise, you would let it go.
 
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Ezekiel 36:25-27 is clear about baptismal regeneration (although the Hebrew word in Ezekiel is rantizo).

And I do not specifically teach that baptism alone in Jesus' Name is what saves (I let the scriptures speak for themselves)...

While I do bring up Acts 2:39 in light of Romans 8:31 and no one has yet been able to answer it as a contention given by those scriptures.
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Ephesians 2:8-9 precludes baptismal regeneration. So the verses you cited must need to be understood in a different light.
 
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More likely they trusted in some prayer or what a well-meaning person told them.
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Nah, that is not what Jesus is warning about.

It is simply this, the Sower expects good soil, He wants/deserves a good crop.
That's is what He teaching.
 
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Nah, that is not what Jesus is warning about.

It is simply this, the Sower expects good soil, He wants/deserves a good crop.
That's is what He teaching.
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Seems more likely that the story is enumerating the types of soil the seed finds and the results of each.
 
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Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks...and the fingers type. It's still a topic of discussion for you because there is bitterness in your heart over it. Otherwise, you would let it go.
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Yes, I have anger towards those who would work to diminish my reward in heaven by taking away my platform to be able to speak for God.

Have you never heard of the impreccatory Psalms?

Such are my prayers concerning those who have committed an offence against me.
 
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Ephesians 2:8-9 precludes baptismal regeneration. So the verses you cited must need to be understood in a different light.
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baptism is not a work except of the Lord Jesus Christ (it is not a work of man and therefore can save...by apprehending the promise of remission of sins and the gift of the Holy Ghost; which is promised in Acts 2:38).
 
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Seems more likely that the story is enumerating the types of soil the seed finds and the results of each.
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Seems to me Jesus imparts more profound truths than this.
 
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Yes, I have anger towards those who would work to diminish my reward in heaven by taking away my platform to be able to speak for God.

Have you never heard of the impreccatory Psalms?

Such are my prayers concerning those who have committed an offence against me.
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I'm familiar with impreccatory Psalms. But evil is never overcome by evil.
And no one can diminish your reward in heaven but you. If one door closes, others will open. There is no shortage of sheep. Look around. The fields are white unto harvest.
 
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Cameron143 said:
I'm familiar with impreccatory Psalms. But evil is never overcome by evil.
And no one can diminish your reward in heaven but you. If one door closes, others will open. There is no shortage of sheep. Look around. The fields are white unto harvest.
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However, those who are responsible for closing a door will be held accountable by the Lord.

If or when I run out of message boards to frequent, I may be forced to preach on the streets.

And then I am subject to the mental health system which comes down on such behaviour.

I do not have happy feelings towards those who would relegate me to such a fate; I am angry with them and pray accordingly.
 
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However, those who are responsible for closing a door will be held accountable by the Lord.

If or when I run out of message boards to frequent, I may be forced to preach on the streets.

And then I am subject to the mental health system which comes down on such behaviour.

I do not have happy feelings towards those who would relegate me to such a fate; I am angry with them and pray accordingly.
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How people are dealt with belongs to God. How we respond to the way we are treated is a pretty good referendum on us.
At any rate, I wish you all the best. Grace and peace.
 
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How people are dealt with belongs to God. How we respond to the way we are treated is a pretty good referendum on us.
At any rate, I wish you all the best. Grace and peace.
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Yes. At least I don't retaliate in person but leave it up to God; even as scripture tells us to do (Romans 12:19-21).
 
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I pray the blessing of God on those who have persecuted me...that He may receive them as sons (Hebrews 12:6); and that, He might "seek out their wickedness until He finds none" (Psalms 10:15).
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You, my friend, have martyr complex. No one is persecuting you. You joined two days ago and are close to 150 posts. That usually spells doom.
 
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You, my friend, have martyr complex. No one is persecuting you. You joined two days ago and are close to 150 posts. That usually spells doom.
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Yes indeed, Jesus Himself, and John the Baptist, were also zealous; and this spelled for them certain doom as concerning this temporal world. Concerning eternity, another story.

Jesus says,

Rev 3:19, As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
 
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I meant trying to produce godly sorrow in others in the power of the Holy Ghost.
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Ok, but that's something that must be done with great care and humility. First, it is for spiritual people to speak the truth in love. Second, we are no better than anyone else and we also can be tempted:

Galatians 6:1
"Brothers, if someone is caught in a trespass, you who are spiritual should restore him with a spirit of gentleness. But watch yourself, or you also may be tempted."

If we get judgemental, we will likely fall ourselves. We are dependent on God's grace. God at times witholds His grace so that we may learn that lesson.
 
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