Not By Works

I find it amazing, that God said he saved us when we were at our worse. that people think AFTER we have been adopted as a child of God, Given the HS who helps giude us, and chastens us, that we can become WORSE that we were BEFORE we were saved.

That seem to be an impossible task. It basically says GOD totally failed in growing us, they even with his inluence and power. we went backward, NOT FORWARD.

IT WAS A DONE DEAL THE MOMENT HE PLANNED IT, BEFORE TIME BEGAN.

2 Timothy 1:9 (HCSB)
9 He has saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace, which was given to us in Christ Jesus before time began.


Guess you never read that with UNDERSTANDING ! ! !

No, it means that as we peel back the layers of sin in us, we discover more and more of our inner sins, even when God enables us to get better at controlling our outer sins--all by the power of Jesus' mighty victory.

Beloved, Aba (Father in English) says:

1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. 2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

We know that to dwell in the presence of the KING of heaven, that the Law of Life IS the code of proper conduct, that we may abide in the presence of the Almighty:

1 Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. 2 But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. 3 And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper. 4 The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away. 5 Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous. 6 For the LORD knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.

And we know that Jesus of Nazareth IS the way, and that the way of sinners IS abominable in the sight of the Most High God (and leads to death).

10 And He saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand. 11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. 14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. 15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. 16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

These words are not shared to lord it over any; but if you be strengthed by them, then the army of the King of kings and Lord of lords IS in greater standings; yea, the LORD our God IS one; and Aba speaks regarding treatment - one another betwixt:

10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love. 11 These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full. 12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you. 13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

Those of us who share in sincerity ought not be flogged (neither physically nor verbally) for our love for the Master and fellow servants.
Again, if you have PROOF that one of His Majesty's flock deals hatefully against you, there is an established law for this also:

11 For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost. 12 How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray?
13 And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth more of that sheep, than of the ninety and nine which went not astray. 14 Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish.
15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. 16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. 17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

The second wisest king (beloved elder Melech Shlomo) speaks also as Adonai (which in Hebrew is to say 'my LORD' - Lord Jesus of Nazareth)
1 My son, if thou wilt receive my words, and hide my commandments with thee; 2 So that thou incline thine ear unto wisdom, and apply thine heart to understanding; 3 Yea, if thou criest after knowledge, and liftest up thy voice for understanding; 4 If thou seekest her as silver, and searchest for her as for hid treasures; 5 Then shalt thou understand the fear of the LORD, and find the knowledge of God. 6 For the LORD giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding. 7 He layeth up sound wisdom for the righteous: he is a buckler to them that walk uprightly. 8 He keepeth the paths of judgment, and preserveth the way of his saints.
9 Then shalt thou understand righteousness, and judgment, and equity; yea, every good path. 10 When wisdom entereth into thine heart, and knowledge is pleasant unto thy soul; 11 Discretion shall preserve thee, understanding shall keep thee: 12 To deliver thee from the way of the evil man, from the man that speaketh froward things; 13 Who leave the paths of uprightness, to walk in the ways of darkness;

And so those of us who do not deal directly with each other, publicly speaking against each other with other members of the flock, do Hasatan (the Accuser - Satan) much pleasure; for he perceives the lack of discretion, sees the lack of wisdom, knowledge and understanding, and has reason to 'accuse' - in an attempt to condemn. Because we do not love each other as we have been explicitly commanded, making ourselves - by our own deeds - strange children.

Great IS the Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth, the only begotten Son of the true and living God.
Lord Jesus of Nazareth comes soon. Amen.

If any have doubted my love and intentions, perhaps reconsider; perhaps pray to the Messiah regarding the intentions of your fellow servant, prince yaacov of Israel. Truly, the glory is the LORD'S; yea, His al


In what way? Provide discrete proof that your words ARE from the LORD, righteous and of goodly intent;
To say that any are 'nuts - or crazy', whether friend or enemy:

8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities. 9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee. 10 But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.

Mother Wisdom does not abide with those who accustom their mouths to strange, coarse speech.
Perhaps speaking against ANY, including the evil one himself is not wise - according to Scripture.

Great IS the LORD.
(You are perhaps unfamiliar with many - including those of my fathers: Abraham, Isaac, and Israel; but the right to speak in such a way is not sanctioned by God for any.)

There seems to be a lot of insinuating contradiction being aimed at me here. Am i insulting you or anyone else ?

No this is not a my thinkers

I have said the work of Christ to bring salvation befor the cross was complete. But no salvation has been given to anyone until after the cross, which also refers to people only being saved late on in there life.

I was just stating facts, in the Bible, and you think that is insulting?

No, it means that as we peel back the layers of sin in us, we discover more and more of our inner sins, even when God enables us to get better at controlling our outer sins--all by the power of Jesus' mighty victory.

Who's "Mother Wisdom?"

Beloved:

Say unto wisdom, Thou art my sister; and call understanding thy kinswoman: 5 That they may keep thee from the strange woman, from the stranger which flattereth with her words.

But with what transgressions comitted (against the heavens, and against the King which reigns therein) in my own life, I dare not call her my 'sister'; I would have her to lord it over me (deal authoritively - maternally), and hence - Mother Wisdom.

She speaks of her relationship with my Aba (Yeshua shel Nazarat - Jesus of Nazareth in english):
29 When He gave to the sea His decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when He appointed the foundations of the earth: 30 Then I was by Him, as one brought up with Him: and I was daily His delight, rejoicing always before Him; 31 Rejoicing in the habitable part of His earth; and my delights were with the sons of men. 32 Now therefore hearken unto me, O ye children: for blessed are they that keep my ways.

And in this, my response to her is not 'yes, beloved sister', but rather, 'yes Maam, yes beloved Mother'; for who is my Mother besides those female elders who do the will of my Aba.

The peace and love of His Majesty, the King of heaven be with you in abundance;
Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth, the only begotten Son of the true and living God, comes soon. Amen.

Who's "Mother Wisdom?"

I'm pretty certain that wattie told us a couple of weeks ago the person you are talking to eternally grateful has passed away a couple of weeks ago God bless his soul.[/QU

Can you bring up the post that EG has passed away...He posted the other day ?

Can you bring up the post that EG has passed away...He posted the other day ?.

sorry just checked it was abiding wattie said had died.

I looked at eternally grateful and it said he was a guest I must of got confused

The Bible teaches us that faith without works is dead (James 2:17).

Title: The Transformative Power of Works in Salvation: A Personal Reflection as Pastor of BibleHeaven.org

Dear fellow believers,

As the Pastor of https://BibleHeaven.org, I come before you today to share a perspective on the transformative role of works in our journey towards salvation. While faith is undeniably the foundation of our relationship with God, I firmly believe that our works play a significant and complementary role in attaining salvation.

The Bible teaches us that faith without works is dead (James 2:17). This profound truth has resonated deeply with me throughout my personal and spiritual journey. It has led me to understand that salvation is not merely a one-time event but an ongoing process of transformation and renewal.

Through my experiences as a pastor and a follower of Christ, I have witnessed how engaging in good works and living out Christ-like virtues can have a profound impact on our lives and the lives of those around us. Our actions are not a means to earn salvation but rather a genuine response to the love and grace that God has freely bestowed upon us.

At https://BibleHeaven.org, we encourage our congregation to actively participate in acts of love, compassion, and service as an outpouring of our faith. These works are not meant to be burdensome obligations, but expressions of gratitude and a desire to align ourselves with God's will.

By engaging in acts of kindness, seeking justice for the oppressed, and extending a helping hand to those in need, we exemplify the transformative power of Christ's love in our lives. Our works become a living testimony to the message of the Gospel, touching hearts, and inspiring others to seek salvation and live lives of moral excellence.

However, it is essential to remember that salvation is ultimately a gift of God's grace, which we receive through faith in Jesus Christ. Our works do not merit or earn salvation; rather, they are a reflection of our faith and an evidence of the internal change that occurs when we allow the Holy Spirit to work in our lives.

In conclusion, I can attest to the profound significance of works in the journey of salvation. Let us not underestimate the transformative power of actively living out our faith through good deeds. As we embrace both faith and works, may our lives be a testament to God's love, grace, and transforming power, inspiring others to join us on this beautiful journey towards salvation.

I invite you all to share your thoughts and experiences on this topic, as we continue to learn and grow together in our walk of faith.

Blessings,

Pastor Harry, https://BibleHeaven.org