In your opinion do you believe world is about 6000 years old

I've always believed in a young earth, but I would add a few years. While the generations seem to be spelled out in the Bible, apparently there was a tradition to do with leaving out some of the generations that were not important. So, if that is true, the earth could be as old as 10,000 years. If that is not so, then, 6000 years.

I've done a lot of study about this, since I was first saved 43 years ago. Besides the similarities between continent edges, to do with the splitting of one great continent - Pangea (even long earth evolutionists believe in one continent), there are so many other reasons for believing in a young earth. If the earth was millions or billions of years old, I doubt the same kind of sand would still be found on the beaches in south west Africa and north east South America. Plus, the genetic load mutation would mean no one could be born without deadly mutations. It's interesting this thread brought up the fact that initially, in early Genesis it was ok to marry a brother or sister. No genetic mutations in those days, which is a primary motivation in not marrying brothers or sisters or even close cousins. I worked with disabled children one summer. There was a family with 5 kids, 3 of which had terrible facial mutations and retardation. The parents were first cousins. My MIL said her mom, back in a small German colony used to say, "It's better to marry a Jew than marry a close family member." So, it wasn't just the Jews, either. The Pharaohs of Egypt had to marry their sisters to become king, in the early dynasties. But, even by the 18th dynasty, I think mutations were starting to come out, if the sculptures and pictures of Akhenaten and Tutankhamen as well as Nefertiti are any indication. And God did eventually forbid intermarriage in close families with the tribes of Abraham. Really, the entire Jewish nation was started by one man, who had one son, who had one son, who had 12 sons. So, lots of intermarrying. But, after the Flood, I think more radiation entered the atmosphere, causing mutations to multiply.

I took Geology, biology and lots of geomorphology in my undergrad degree in Geography. The rocks dated the plants, and the plants dated the rocks, depending upon which classroom you were in. I wasn't a Christian in those days, but I began to question the circular reasoning. I began to see a case for "intelligent design" although I had no idea who the designer was, nor the name of the theory, in those days. Thankfully, God saved me the end of my first year of studies, and I have never looked back. I do read lots from the Institute for Creation Science. They have PhD professors who believe in a young earth creation, and do primary research to prove it. Although the Bible is enough for me, its good to show the world that this whole long earth thing is just a scam to give evolution enough time to happen. Even though life has never been created without prior intelligence and energy. So, I believe God, but its nice to know how much research there is available to back it up!

My personal studies shows the 6000th year ends in year 2029. Just shows those that do a diligent study comes up very close to each other

I just mean the timing of Gen 1, all of creation, including man being told to go out into the world, be fruitful and multiply, being completed in 6 24 hour days.
The story of Adam and Eve in the garden, and all that transpired there seems to me, would take more time than one 24 hour period.... and that would have to have happened that way in order to stay within the 6 day time frame of the creation.
God did not tell Adam and Eve to go out into the world and be fruitful and multiply..... the plan was for Adam and Eve to live in the garden.... they messed that up....
That's all I meant by the "timing".... it doesn't appear that all of that could have happened within the 6 days of creation...

Again, I absolutely believe that God created everything that we see and experience... I'm just speculating that we have misunderstood how all of it happened.

"The world" wants to discount the creation "theory" because of the gaps, the dinosaurs, the apparent existence of humans way before the Biblical timeline of the family of Adam....

My speculative theory would explain ALL of that, and would even lay to rest the whole idea of angels (sons of God) having sex with mortal women... the "sons of God" were all Adam's descendants who married into the "generic" mankind that were created on the 6th day.
It would also explain who Cain was worried about when he was cast away... and it would explain who he married....
3 Cain said to the Lord, “My punishment is too great to bear! 14 Behold, You have driven me this day from the face of the ground; and from Your face I will be hidden, and I will be a vagrant and a wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me.”
16 Then Cain went out from the presence of the Lord, and [h]settled in the land of [i]Nod, east of Eden.

17 Cain [j]had relations with his wife and she conceived, and gave birth to Enoch; and he built a city, and called the name of the city Enoch, after the name of his son.



My theory is that Gen 1 is the account of how almighty God created our earth in 6 days.... with generic mankind (male and female) being created on the 6th day.

Gen 2 and 3 is the account of how God created the first "son of God" ..... Adam. Gen 2 even states that all of the creation of the heavens and earth were created, and God made the 7th day a day of rest.... then the story continues with the telling of the creation of Adam, and the garden, etc....

I believe our Bible is the story of the history of the family of Adam, and how "generic man" was phased out at the flood...

So, how much time elapsed between the 6 days of creation, and the creation of Adam? It could have been thousands of years.... we were not told.

And I have NO problem with the young earth thinking.... that's what I "assumed/believed" all my life. I have just recently began to wonder about the differences that seem to be between Gen 1 and Gen 2-3.
None of which would change my belief in God... none of it is a salvation issue... like I've said, it's simply speculation and a theory on my part.

There is no reason to believe, or feel the need to believe, in an earth that is only 6000 years old. There's just too much evidence to the contrary, and there's no contradiction between an old earth and the Christian faith.

"...the history of Adam’s race in Genesis is foundational to understanding how the gospel applies to all people. Because all people are descendants of Adam and Eve, all people are sinners (Romans 3:23, 5:12). Christ died and rose again to redeem Adam’s race (Romans 5:15, 5:17; 1 Corinthians 15:21–22, 15:45). If Cain married someone other than a descendant of Adam and Eve, that would contradict the clear teaching of Scripture, not only in Genesis but also as it relates to the gospel. If there are other races, then how can the gospel be for all people (1 Timothy 2:4)? It can’t—the gospel depends in part on the accurate biblical answer to where Cain got his wife. So it’s not just a side issue, it’s part of the main issue!https://answersingenesis.org/bible-characters/cain/creation-basics/

Notice the account in Genesis 4:16-17 does not say Cain found a wife in Nod. "Then Cain went out from the presence of the Lord and dwelt in the land of Nod on the east of Eden. And Cain knew his wife, and she conceived and bore Enoch. And he built a city, and called the name of the city after the name of his son—Enoch.

According to the first century historian, Josephus, Cain was cast out along with his wife:
Antiq. 1:58, "God therefore did not inflict the punishment [of death] upon him, on account of his offering sacrifice, and thereby making supplication to him not to be extreme in his wrath to him; but he made him accursed, and threatened his posterity in the seventh generation. He also cast him, together with his wife, out of that land."

Please read the following. It is very informative. Hope it resolves some of your questions. http://www.talkgenesis.org/cains-wife-still-on-trial/

"Beginning with the fourth verse of Genesis 2, the writer zooms in on the events of the sixth day. God made Adam (v. 7), the Garden of Eden along with the plants therein (specifically mentioned are the fruit trees, vs. 8–9), and Eve (v. 22)." https://answersingenesis.org/biology/plants/planting-confusion/

To be honest, I don't really care how old the earth is. I know who created it, and I know who will destroy it.

Sure there is. God's word states He created the world in 6 literal 24 hour days. And without question, God's word is true. (Rom. 3:4)

So called evidence is nothing more than man-made theory. Things such as the flood disprove the non-sense man comes up with. The earth is not millions of years old. It is approx. 6,000 years old as evidenced from the word of God.

I have thought of it also I notice though we aren’t ever told how long Adam was in Eden so I started counting from when they were exiled and began aging

The problem is in my view we aren’t ever told how the planet itself was actually created or how long it took we only see God setting things In order upon the earth he had created

“In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:1-2‬ ‭

see this doesn’t tell us how long or by what process he creates the earth it picks up when the earth has no order of form or life upon it we see light create the first day and then he fills the earth with life ect but do we really ever hear about how th e earth was created or how long it took ? I’m not sure honestly

But I have done the math from this point of beginning

“And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth:”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭5:3‬ ‭KJV‬‬


Im also aware though that th is isn’t telling us about the time in Eden before the fall or the time even of cain and abel but it’s beginning a timeline with Seth who Adam had 130 years after exile.

Ive never really seen how long they were in Eden or seen the process of the actual creation of the planet earth it makes it hard for us to calculate times of things we simply don’t have the info to

Why on earth would you think that the "Days" of Genesis are literal 24 hour days?

Thought you might find this article interesting...http://www.talkgenesis.org/age-of-the-earth-unrelated-to-salvation/

I believe God's word. It states each day consisted of evening and morning. That fact remains true today. Also relevant is the fact that God rested on the 7th day. If the days lasted years as some suggest it would mean God rested for quite some time.

Gen 1:1-2:1
In the beginning God created the Heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.
14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.
23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
2 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them."

Genesis 6:3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
H8141
שׁנה שׁנה
shâneh shânâh
shaw-neh’, shaw-naw’
(The first form being in plural only, the second form being feminine); from H8138; a year (as a revolution of time): - + whole age, X long, + old, year (X -ly).

120 Jubilee cycles = 49 years x 120 = 5880 years.

Beginning with Adam as year #1 takes us to 3836 BC

3836 BC PLUS 2023 CE = 5859 years since After Creation (AC) We have 21 YEARS TILL THE 7th millennium, however

Matthew 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

The 5880th year will be 2044 and the 7th millennium begins in 2045 in the first Hebrew month.

Jubilee Chart from Adam to Present Time

45 Sabbatical PROOFS with Documentation

Nobody that I know if is disputing that.
That is your understanding of it.... it still doesn't fit with God telling man and woman (created at the same time) on the 6th day to be fruitful and multiply.
You want to understand it as "zooming in"..... what if those verses are the beginning of the story of the "sons of God" that are chronicled in the Bible as we know it?
This doesn't match what he told Adam and Eve, is it? He said you can eat of all of them..... except this one.

If you used that for your calculations, what about what Moses said in Psalm 90?

um..... how so?

Because that is precisely what the Bible says, and that is precisely what is embedded in the Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:11). The Hebrew day was reckoned from sunset to sunset. Thus "evening and morning" instead of "morning and evening".

Are you referring to a day being like a thousand years? So in the case of a Jubilee cycle being 49 years and the 50th year is also year #1 of the next Jubilee cycle. Having also provided the 45 proofs of documentation when the sabbatical and jubilee years are, we would have to conclude that 20 Jubilee cycles are 49 x 20 = 980 years. So it is not always true that the Bible speaks literally but at times it speaks figuratively .

Remember that Adam was to die the same day that he ate of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil? The Bible tells us Adam died at age 930 years old. So if day #1 is 980 years, Adam did die in the same day he ate of it.