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hornetguy

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My bad...they are pleasing to God...God loves Santa Claus and the Easter bunny.
You don't have to go to the other extreme.... I just find it a little tedious when people purport to speak for God... as if God directly tells them, "hey, I really, REALLY don't like that whole easter bunny thing...." We don't know that. I'm in favor of nearly anything that brings people closer to God. I don't know that the easter bunny does that, but it does get the kids out, and makes the day a special day.... it's up to us as parents and mentors to teach the kids the REAL reason for the season....
 

hornetguy

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When you gonto church, do you wear the most ragged dirty ole work clothes you have, or do you wear the best you have?
No, of course not.... unless I was working on some emergency repair when it became time to go assemble.
You make it sound as if it's one extreme or the other..... there is a middle ground, you know....
I wear comfortable clothes like I wear every day.
I do not "wear the best I have" just to try to please God.... because I positively don't think God cares what I wear. I think we please God by our actions, not by dressing pretty. Silly me...
 
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Oh, good grief.... she's not making fun of God, she's making fun of materialism.... and she's making fun of people that think that God will give us any trivial, superficial thing we want if we pray for it.....
she is a proclaimed atheist. either way, she's making fun and using Christians and God as her subject matter to get her point across.
 

John146

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but it does get the kids out, and makes the day a special day
And why is it special for kids? Because they get treats? Or is it because of the resurrection of Christ? Should we not celebrate the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth when it comes to Easter and Christmas? Lying is never an option. Btw, nothing to break fellowship with...just a discussion.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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No, of course not.... unless I was working on some emergency repair when it became time to go assemble.
You make it sound as if it's one extreme or the other..... there is a middle ground, you know....
I wear comfortable clothes like I wear every day.
I do not "wear the best I have" just to try to please God.... because I positively don't think God cares what I wear. I think we please God by our actions, not by dressing pretty. Silly me...
No. Thats what you did. You made it into extremes. I simply said that a woman who buys a ressurrection dress is simply doing so to reverence Christ. You are the one who went to extremes and mentioned buying a mercedes. Thats called gaslighting and its a sign of an abusive person.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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I wear my personal best on sunday to church and try to step it up a bit for ressurrection celebration. This year i got a new vest and my wife got a dress that matched one of my shirts.
My personal best is not what others would call their personal best, but we all have our own positions in life. As a mechanic im just a working class joe.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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My bad...they are pleasing to God...God loves Santa Claus and the Easter bunny.
What problem do you think God has with Bishop Nicholas? A man who as pastor did a bang up job even using his small stipen to help those less fortunate than himself, amd stood up for Trinitarian doctrine at the council of Nicea.
 

Mem

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IMO, there's something insidious about discouraging a child's imagination, although I'm not equipped with enough knowledge to explain exactly why. But this is the result of the internet of things, and entertainment media in general. I'll try to summarize the teaching that I happened to take in on the subject. Compare the percentage of kids that love to read books and those that'd rather just watch a movie. Watching a movie requires minimal mental exertion, and this is why it is called a-muse-ment, because you can do it apart from musing, or thinking much about it. Movies show you what to think, while reading is a practice in how to think. Reading engages one's imagination, as Einstein is quoted, “Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited to all we now know and understand, while imagination embraces the entire world, and all there ever will be to know and understand.” ― Albert Einstein

What child has ever actually grown up to hold Santa Claus or Easter Bunny grudges against their parents?
 

Blik

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I always love when an OP asks a question they don't want answered and have already made their minds about. smh But here goes nothing. I don't see and I don't celebrate Christmas or Easter as secular holidays. One is about Christs birth, the other about His death. There is nothing wrong with a Christmas tree in a home or in a church. I don't support the idea of Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny. I wouldn't consider an egg hunt a sin. I don't celebrate Halloween but I don't have an issue with "trunk or treats" that most churches do. Be clear about who and what we are celebrating and there should be no issues. Lastly astronomy and astrology are two different things, you need to know the difference.
I resent your decision that you know my mind, saying I do not want my question answered. I made this post because I wanted this question discussed. I am so disappointed that it degenerated to a silly discussion about bingo being a sin, changing the subject completely from a discussion of what is OK to include in our churches.

However, I find the thought of bingo in the community rooms as people sharing good times together a good thought. Christ loved a party and friends sharing fellowship.
 

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What's that old saying "the pot calling the kettle black". Not sure what "Churches" were playing target practice on. This is a very wise great way to get God to take notice of you though. I am sure this didn't lead into go down the path of gossip. Well seems we can, like the woke world today just redefine the word gossip.

The love just flows in this thread for others huh. Look where this went. In all of this why not try to see what we "say" or confess we believe.. see what Christ sees. Yes yes I know its all those other "Christians" and "Churches" that are disobeying God becoming more and more like the pagans of the past. pffft

What comes to mind is "I would rather you were hot or cold". This is not hot nor cold. IF this was based in love.. something good would have been shared first as a few tried to do. Not sure how this is any different...its that club that group that pats each other on the back I see allot here by some. But maybe the true intent is just being hidden.. yeah that's it. I am not thinking about anyone.. this is about the whole of this thread. Speak words of life.. speak so those that hear read so it shows grace unto the hearers. IF there is some CHURCH doing these things.. maybe talk to that pastor about it where both can talk pray about it.. I don't know.. YES I have and do this for over 30years now.
 

Blik

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IMO, there's something insidious about discouraging a child's imagination, although I'm not equipped with enough knowledge to explain exactly why. But this is the result of the internet of things, and entertainment media in general. I'll try to summarize the teaching that I happened to take in on the subject. Compare the percentage of kids that love to read books and those that'd rather just watch a movie. Watching a movie requires minimal mental exertion, and this is why it is called a-muse-ment, because you can do it apart from musing, or thinking much about it. Movies show you what to think, while reading is a practice in how to think. Reading engages one's imagination, as Einstein is quoted, “Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited to all we now know and understand, while imagination embraces the entire world, and all there ever will be to know and understand.” ― Albert Einstein

What child has ever actually grown up to hold Santa Claus or Easter Bunny grudges against their parents?
This has already been tested by the difference in pagan children brought up on nursery rhymes, Santa Clause and Easter bunnies, and Jewish children brought up on scripture stories and memory verses. The Jewish children are not taught about Christ, yet if you google for statistics on the difference between that two, you find the Jewish children surpass the pagan ones in everything.
 

Mem

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This has already been tested by the difference in pagan children brought up on nursery rhymes, Santa Clause and Easter bunnies, and Jewish children brought up on scripture stories and memory verses. The Jewish children are not taught about Christ, yet if you google for statistics on the difference between that two, you find the Jewish children surpass the pagan ones in everything.
My study was a rhetorical study in that there's no actual study that I'm aware of other than that of taking of an example of a bookworm and an example of a movie buff and comparing personalities. But not that this is meant to deride movie buffs of which is among my many interests. The study you referred to, if it were an actually conducted study, strikes me as though it might've been conducted by a particularly biased group of experimenters? No?
 

John146

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What problem do you think God has with Bishop Nicholas? A man who as pastor did a bang up job even using his small stipen to help those less fortunate than himself, amd stood up for Trinitarian doctrine at the council of Nicea.
Bishop Nicholas? As I recall, there is no record of such a person.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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Bishop Nicholas? As I recall, there is no record of such a person.
Saint Nicholas of Myra (traditionally 15 March 270 – 6 December 343), also known as Nicholas of Bari, was an early bishop of Greek decent from the maritime city of Myra in Asia minor
 

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IMO, there's something insidious about discouraging a child's imagination, although I'm not equipped with enough knowledge to explain exactly why. But this is the result of the internet of things, and entertainment media in general. I'll try to summarize the teaching that I happened to take in on the subject. Compare the percentage of kids that love to read books and those that'd rather just watch a movie. Watching a movie requires minimal mental exertion, and this is why it is called a-muse-ment, because you can do it apart from musing, or thinking much about it. Movies show you what to think, while reading is a practice in how to think. Reading engages one's imagination, as Einstein is quoted, “Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited to all we now know and understand, while imagination embraces the entire world, and all there ever will be to know and understand.” ― Albert Einstein

What child has ever actually grown up to hold Santa Claus or Easter Bunny grudges against their parents?
I'm still seeing a shrink about the time I saw mommy kissing Santa Claus.
 

hornetguy

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No. Thats what you did. You made it into extremes. I simply said that a woman who buys a ressurrection dress is simply doing so to reverence Christ. You are the one who went to extremes and mentioned buying a mercedes. Thats called gaslighting and its a sign of an abusive person.
Oh, lighten up, Francis....
It was a COMPARISON.... if women can buy new clothes to present their best selves to God, why NOT take it further? If I said I would buy a $1000 suit to dress in reverence, would that make you feel better about it?
You, calling me abusive? That's a laugh.... a sad laugh, but a laugh, nonetheless.... I see your posts on this forum... You cover yourself in clothes of self-righteousness, and berate and ridicule anyone that dares to disagree with you.... at least I offer legitimate arguments for my positions.....
 

Mem

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I'm still seeing a shrink about the time I saw mommy kissing Santa Claus.
Lol. I'm not buying it. I know your mind is built with much more fortitude than you've let on and it'll take a lot more than your mommy kissing Santa Claus with the gall to also be wearing your dad's boots. Pretending to be your dad might've fooled your mom but I know it didn't fool you. And there will come the day when it is revealed to all the world that you are in actuality, Cameron Claus, Jr.
 

hornetguy

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And why is it special for kids? Because they get treats? Or is it because of the resurrection of Christ? Should we not celebrate the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth when it comes to Easter and Christmas? Lying is never an option. Btw, nothing to break fellowship with...just a discussion.
Yes... the treats do make it more special for them.... and it's up to the adults to make it Biblically special for them. Our job is to teach them, but first you have to have their attention.
and I agree, this is simply a discussion.... I have a lot of respect for you as a believer..... we do disagree on several things, but that doesn't mean we aren't brothers....