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Raised in a Pentecostal denomination been around tongues for 76 years now . Seen the real and the fake the good and the bad and the gray. Can any give a good reason why the topic always goes to rudeness?
Probably for the same reason almost all topics where people disagree go to rudeness.
 
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why do we not see anyone Praying to the Holy Spirit in the New Testament?
He is God, so, why isn't anyone praying to Him?
 
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we have songs come Holy Spirit and other things, that is 100% unbiblical!
 
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read this carefully, it is 100% FACT and CAN NEVER be proven WRONG:

what fascinates me is in the Old Testament, JESUS, told Moses He was Elohim, LORD, YHWH, MOST HIGH GOD, Yahweh = the WORD

and He also told Moses, He was [To Be], and this Name became so Sacred no Hebrew or Jew even mutters it. We know it means : TO BE our Sacrifice and SAVIOR + Messiah!
God said those things to Moses, not Jesus. Jesus didn't exist yet, except in God's plan.

in the New Testament, to be a Blood Sacrifice and Role Model for how we should live as a Follower of God, JESUS, plays a SON!

Clearly, Jesus, at any time can be All these things because ultimately He is the WORD!
Jesus did not just "play" a Son, he IS the Son of God (John 20:17).
 
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you can pray to the Father but not the Holy Spirit.
they are equal and God, why can only one be prayed to and not the other?
 
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God said those things to Moses, not Jesus. Jesus didn't exist yet, except in God's plan.


Jesus did not just "play" a Son, he IS the Son of God (John 20:17).
Jesus always existed as the WORD.

Jesus put a Tree of Life in the Garden, you know the Cross, during Creation. the WORD knew He was ALL these things + would play a ROLE for our Salvation.
 
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Jesus always existed as the WORD.
Jesus Christ began his existence when God's logos (His will, plan, purposes) became flesh. IE: when God miraculously caused Mary to conceive.

Jesus put a Tree of Life in the Garden, you know the Cross, during Creation.
God did that, not Jesus.

the WORD knew He was ALL these things + would play a ROLE for our Salvation.
Look up what the word "logos" means.
 

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NO, who told you this crap?

that is JESUS!

2 God spoke to Moses, and He said to him, "I am the Lord. בוַיְדַבֵּ֥ר אֱלֹהִ֖ים אֶל־משֶׁ֑ה וַיֹּ֥אמֶר אֵלָ֖יו אֲנִ֥י יְהֹוָֽה:3I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob with [the name] Almighty God, but [with] My name YHWH, I did not become known to them. גוָֽאֵרָ֗א אֶל־אַבְרָהָ֛ם אֶל־יִצְחָ֥ק וְאֶל־יַֽעֲקֹ֖ב בְּאֵ֣ל שַׁדָּ֑י וּשְׁמִ֣י יְהֹוָ֔ה לֹ֥א נוֹדַ֖עְתִּי לָהֶֽם:
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that is JESUS, not the Father!
why would you be so consumed with Jesus being called Yahweh ?

You can call him Lord, or Jesus, the most common name used by Christians.

Why be different.

When anyone hears the word father dont you think there referring to the father, not Jesus ?.

And when you say a prayer like our Father. Or father God.

Who gives you that access.

Or better still would You forget your speaking to the father through Jesus when you say Father God.
 
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Jesus Christ began his existence when God's logos (His will, plan, purposes) became flesh. IE: when God miraculously caused Mary to conceive.


God did that, not Jesus.


Look up what the word "logos" means.
throw your DEMONIC SEPTUAGINT away, it makes you look STUPID!!

Is the Septuagint the same as the Tanakh?

The Septuagint does not consist of a single, unified corpus. Rather, it is a collection of ancient translations of the Tanakh, along with other Jewish texts that are now commonly referred to as apocrypha.

What does apocrypha mean?
apocrypha, (from Greek apokryptein, “to hide away”), in biblical literature, works outside an accepted canon of scripture. The history of the term's usage indicates that it referred to a body of esoteric writings that were at first prized, later tolerated, and finally excluded.

What is Esoteric Writings?

a personal interpretation!


the same with mazoretic text!
 
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why would you be so consumed with Jesus being called Yahweh ?

You can call him Lord, or Jesus, the most common name used by Christians.

Why be different.

When anyone hears the word father dont you think there referring to the father, not Jesus ?.

And when you say a prayer like our Father. Or father God.

Who gives you that access.

Or better still would You forget your speaking to the father through Jesus when you say Father God.
i am not consumed, but i use the Hebrew, so I know things better than you can because you use this baloney [i know i saw your Scriptures you posted]

Is the Septuagint the same as the Tanakh?

The Septuagint does not consist of a single, unified corpus. Rather, it is a collection of ancient translations of the Tanakh, along with other Jewish texts that are now commonly referred to as apocrypha.

What does apocrypha mean?
apocrypha, (from Greek apokryptein, “to hide away”), in biblical literature, works outside an accepted canon of scripture. The history of the term's usage indicates that it referred to a body of esoteric writings that were at first prized, later tolerated, and finally excluded.

What is Esoteric Writings?

a personal interpretation!
 
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Jesus Christ began his existence when God's logos (His will, plan, purposes) became flesh. IE: when God miraculously caused Mary to conceive.


God did that, not Jesus.


Look up what the word "logos" means.
Jesus is the WORD, first and foremost!



Paul in Colossians says Jesus, created the UNIVERSE and everything with His Spoken Word.

how can you know how Paul explains Jesus as CREATOR, and you throw this crap about logos?
 

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i am not consumed, but i use the Hebrew, so I know things better than you can because you use this baloney [i know i saw your Scriptures you posted]

Is the Septuagint the same as the Tanakh?

The Septuagint does not consist of a single, unified corpus. Rather, it is a collection of ancient translations of the Tanakh, along with other Jewish texts that are now commonly referred to as apocrypha.

What does apocrypha mean?
apocrypha, (from Greek apokryptein, “to hide away”), in biblical literature, works outside an accepted canon of scripture. The history of the term's usage indicates that it referred to a body of esoteric writings that were at first prized, later tolerated, and finally excluded.

What is Esoteric Writings?

a personal interpretation!
I'm still waiting for a link for your source of this mystical text.
 
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throw your DEMONIC SEPTUAGINT away, it makes you look STUPID!!

Is the Septuagint the same as the Tanakh?

The Septuagint does not consist of a single, unified corpus. Rather, it is a collection of ancient translations of the Tanakh, along with other Jewish texts that are now commonly referred to as apocrypha.

What does apocrypha mean?
apocrypha, (from Greek apokryptein, “to hide away”), in biblical literature, works outside an accepted canon of scripture. The history of the term's usage indicates that it referred to a body of esoteric writings that were at first prized, later tolerated, and finally excluded.

What is Esoteric Writings?

a personal interpretation!


the same with mazoretic text!
I'm not talking about the LXX.
 
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Jesus Christ is God's Word (logos) made flesh.
Jesus, is the WRITTEN WORD.
obviously, the Old Testament is all about Him!
we know!

to ADD, the New Testament is ALL about Him as well!

He is the LOGOS, WRITTEN WORD!