A lesson on grief in Job

Job Chapter 2, verse 13. King James Bible.

How many of us can do this, spend a week sitting silent with a bereaved one?
These days people talk too much.
I think a very depressed bereaved person needs quiet sympathetic company. Free to talk and be above all listened to.
Would you agree Job's friends did the right thing at this stage? What is your experience of comfort or attempts at comfort in your hardest times?
I know I found best the friends that didn't chatter on about anything and everything, unable to stand any silence. In fact silence can be very soothing indeed if also understanding is there. All too often such an ideal is only found in professional therapy from trained counsellors - trained to keep mouth shut.

Would you agree Job's friends did the right thing at this stage?

In chapter 4, what is Eliphaz the Temanite saying? Please someone clarify. I gather from verses 1 to 21 that he thinks innocent people do not perish. But this makes no sense to me because I believe none are blameless. We are all sinners and so all are subject to fate.
This being before Jesus gave us a way out.

this is another reason i think the Scholars have it truly wrong about when Job took place. I do not believe this is the Job most think.
WHY?
look at Eliphaz question in Verse 17:

“Can mortals be acquitted by God?
Can man be cleared by his Maker?

This is before Sacrifice for Sins took place, so Moses, hasn't even been on the Scene yet.

Eliphaz, does not know that God, His Maker, removes SIN, because we've probably haven't even reached Noah's day yet, when God began talking about the Sins of man.


Cain and Abel is our the first examples of offering offerings. this appears not to be SIN offering, it's like paying a tithes offering.


Job, is truly an excellent Book to puzzle solve

Didn't Job make offerings for his children?

When a round of feast days was over, Job would send word to them to sanctify themselves, and, rising early in the morning, he would make burnt offerings, one for each of them; for Job thought, “Perhaps my children have sinned and blasphemed God in their thoughts.” This is what Job always used to do.

this makes what Eliphaz asked now strange. why would he ask if God forgives sins then?

does this mean that Job was just that connected to God he made offerings for his Children?

he made them for his Children but not for him and his wife. i still believe this is before we see Moses and the LAW Offerings.

if the LAW was in effect, one would think Job would make offerings for himself and his wife....and....Eliphaz, would know that God forgave Sins.

Plus, a Priest, is required for Sacrifices but we don't see a Priest for Cain and Abel.

Job, has no Priest either, so he has to be around this time and just after where you can Sacrifice without a Priest.

One could argue that the Patriarch of a family was indeed a priest.

wouldn't that mean Adam should have offered Cain and Abel's Offerings?

wouldn't that mean Adam should have offered Cain and Abel's Offerings?

Job Chapter 9 verses 33 - 35.
Is Job predicting Christ here?

he made them for his Children but not for him and his wife. i still believe this is before we see Moses and the LAW Offerings.

if the LAW was in effect, one would think Job would make offerings for himself and his wife....and....Eliphaz, would know that God forgave Sins.

yes, and does Elihu becomes like a type of Christ in 33:6-7?

God later says Job's 3 friends spoke wrong, and tells them to offer sacrifices for their mistakes ((42:7-8)), but says nothing about Elihu. he's mysterious!

yes, and does Elihu becomes like a type of Christ in 33:6-7?

God later says Job's 3 friends spoke wrong, and tells them to offer sacrifices for their mistakes ((42:7-8)), but says nothing about Elihu. he's mysterious!